Businesses Crippled By ILX

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― Shenanigans!!!, Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Bugger, they're onto me! I've never been on the news before!

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The Labour Revolution is here, and sitting in an ergonomically chair.

― Huck, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The results prove that employers are unaware as to how significant the problem is for their businesses

probably because the employers are too busy surfing for porn to talk to their staff, right?

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

To be honest, I don't know why these employers just don't ban the internet at work if it's such a problem.

So many of the workers at these places don't actually have a "work" use for it, then management moan about its usage... WTF?

It's like putting bowls of chocolate, champagne and fresh sex on every desk and then whinging when people help themselves. Wankers.

And yeah, that goes for you who monitors my every keystroke.

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps if working in the deathly faceless private sector wasn't so unremittingly soul-destroying and worthless there might actually be something to do other than point and click, point and click, point and click. Ker-ching! Fuck off.

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"fresh sex"!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

we still work more hours than the rest of Yerp blah blah

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Huey OTM.

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good for the unemployment figures. Less work getting done = more people needed to do the work. Nearly half the day on net = 2 people doing the job of 1 = complete reverse of the effect they thought technology and labour saving devices would have.

Har har.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"paperless office"

― Huck, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like putting bowls of chocolate, champagne and fresh sex on every desk and then whinging when people help themselves. Wankers.

DUDE STOP OBJECTIFYING SEX!!!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

totally true. i reckon most private sector workforces could at the very least be halved if everyone on them worked even 75% of the hours they signed up for. problem is, this could never happen cos the work's so boring. it's a continually changing equilibrium between fear of sacking and alienation from work but we're never gonna get to the point where we're so productive that we don't web-abuse (wabuse?) cos we're humans not automata (or Americans).

― Jay G (jaybob79), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

This is shock news in the same way that "BNP bunch of racists after all" was shock news, right?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen is right. It's like we got the leisure time that advances in technology should have given us, only rather than an extra day's weekend, it's spread over the week, and provided by a by-product of the very technological advances that boosted productivity.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fresh sex" is in no way an objectification, it's more of a... whiff, or a sexy suspicion...

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the real response to this is that we should all do a three-day week (where exactly did all this 40-hour 5-day crap come from anyway?), get the same amount done, the country wouldn't grind to a halt, and everybody would be free and happy to go out and enjoy and explore a mindful and fruitful existence.

Or at least just fuck around on the net in their own time.

Greedy scumbag IoD / Chamber of Commerce bastards - this much and this much lost in production time per year because of this much FUCK YOU.

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, I work my FINGERS TO THE BONE in this joint.

― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

please become my MP.

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

When did the concept of the two day weekend evolve, anway?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I read recently that it was the advent of agriculture that turned us all into all work and no play fools. When we were hunter-gatherers it was mostly just sitting around and arsing about. Bloody farmers.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think it evolved so much as it was fought for.

― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how the "related stories" for this gradually turns into a track listing:

- Workers get into email trouble
- Brit bosses get tough on Net abuse
- We are all time wasters now (album mix)

― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, yeah, so I did kind of vaguely recall that post industrial revolution enslavement a two day weekend was fought for by unions and that, but was this harking back to something that had existed previously?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I love you Nisoo!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

So how are we going to push for the 3 day weekend then? I'm happy to still work my 40 hours (hmm, I actually work 45 + whatever needs to be done, this could get messy) - all we need to do now is convince the entire world to switch.

Who's with me? < / john belushi in a toga >

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

alright

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

instinct tells me this is true, but then i suspect that our forefathers ended up with their noses to their grindstones at least 40 hours a week, without the internet as distraction. or is that fantasy?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

not a very enticing fantasy

― the neurotic awakening of ludacris (blueski), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand what you mean, amateurist. How does that run counter to what I said?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

it doesn't. i wasn't reading correctly. i think you are right.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this was going to be a list thread!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Teeny! :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i am too lazy to look up how to actually spell the name of this group, but it sounds like "Zhoo-twa-see". well. they are hunter gatherers living in africa right now. they have no war and they only work about 20 hours a week. they dont get sick/disease cuz they move around a lot. they do kind of force their kids to marry who they (the parents) want, but it's otherwise kind of neat.

but they dont have the internet.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 22 July 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

suckas

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been at work today for 6.5 hours so far. During that time I performed work for only 2.5 hours, because I spent the morning sitting around and waiting for the author to finally give me a text to edit. My supervisor knows about this, and was probably happy that I was able to keep myself quiet and out of the way of people who actually had work to do.

Has anyone tried to assess how much of this is genuine slacking-off even though the employee has work to be done, and how much is waiting for work (or a portion of the work) to be delivered? For example, if you need last year's recruitment figures to finish drafting a letter, and Rick in HR hasn't responded to your repeated requests for that data, you can't finish the letter.

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

You should be getting on with one of your other projects.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

at first glance i read that as "you should be getting it on with one of your prospects," which i'll agree is a nice way to pass the time.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, now if I only had some prospects...

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Waiting around time used to be when you tidied your desk and did the odd bit of filing, or maybe made matching labels for all your folders. And of course, my desk is a tip and I have a whole pile of papers which could be holepunched and foldered to save me rifling through them every time I need something.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah at my old job (where I never surfed the web) I would clean my desk when I was bored; or ask other people (gasp!) if they needed help, or gossip with other co-workers.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

At least ILX and the interweb destroys the pretense of busy work. Now, if asked what I'm doing, I just say 'reading online' which seems to suffice and go back to posting pictures of nipples.

― j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

That's quite bold. You might as well go the whole hog and say "Posting pictures of nipples."

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah... I work at an urban elementary school. If I say anything to do with 'reading' I'm given a bit of license. Not so with the nips.

― j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm reading nipples" ?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Nipples: the new phrenology!

― j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there was a continental lady on Eurotrash once who did bum readings.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

When did the concept of the two day weekend evolve, anway?

Alba there is a book called Mutual Aid by Peter Kropotkin that explains this. I am having trouble remembering exactly what his story was, but I think it came out of the guilds or something.

― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

OK - thanks!

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Pipex Internet Ltd
2. GE Life
3. Gissings Insurance

― nital god, Friday, 23 July 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't sylvester stallone's mom do bum readings?

― H (Heruy), Friday, 23 July 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, it's odd how they never mention the other side of it. That having a release, having a social stress relief like the old fashioned water-cooler actually produces calmer, happier workers who are better able to handle the stresses of their job.

I mean, how many of us work boring, tedious jobs that we might not be able to tolerate for eight hours straight a day if we didn't have the occasional break?

Sure, ILX has affected my job performance. But for the 2 weeks that ILX was down, I got caught up in office politics, I got bored and frustrated with my job, and all that crap. It's not like my productivity actually went up without ILX. Internet abuse is a symptom that the job/workplace itself has problems. If my job was wonderful and the people around me were wonderful (i.e. they hadn't just sacked the boss everyone LIKED) then I wouldn't *need* to spend all day on the interweb avoiding people.

― Ma$onic Boom (kate), Friday, 23 July 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

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