Ernie Bushmiller's "Nancy": C/D?

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I always assumed this strip was terrible, mainly because of its rep (and the present-day incarnation doesn't help), but I happened to read a bunch of the old ones in a big book of newspaper comics the other day and it's absolutely amazing! There's something mildly creepy and unsettling about it that I can't quite put my finger on - that absolutely blank, deadpan tone reminds me of something like "Zippy," only Bushmiller does it a lot better.

A good case for the defense: http://www.interestingideas.com/ii/nancy.htm

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a terrific strip in its prime, and that prime lasted for many years. I have a couple of tremendous collections.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It was all about that weird mom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the one thing I like about the relatively recent return to Bushmiller type strips is that it is soooo fuuuuucckked uuup these days. ugly fat children and Elvis winking from a framed picture and shit like that.

ROLLO!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got an old Comics Journal with a Dan Clowes interview, and he agrees with me!

Gary Groth: What's your position on Ernie Bushmiller?

Clowes: I'm pro-Bushmiller. I mean, I don't like to get up on my soapbox and pontificate about Bushmiller as much as some of these people because I think that defeats the whole purpose. But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting. So yeah, I love Bushmiller, and this new guy who does Nancy should be shot.

G: For betraying the Bushmiller ethos?

C: Yeah, that's just awful dreck.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(of course that interview's from 1992, so he's not referring to the current artist on Nancy, but the other guy who did the strip for about a decade and tried to "normalize" it)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting


sums up the then and now (but not the normalizer) quite well

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

AH CHOO

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear there's been a thread about this. Anyway if you want a coffee table book, WRITE a REAL LETTER to the contact info on the official Nancy site, begging for it. Basically the caretakers of Bushmiller's estate want to do it but their publisher doesn't think it'll sell.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There has been a coffee tableish book before - I have it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

five card nancy!

jess, Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was kinda cool that aunt fritzie wears suzy boguss t-shirts now. that dude is a serious country fan.

oh, but yeah, Bushmiller was the coolest.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - the only time i've written a letter to the atlanta journal-constitution was when they dropped the daily edition of nancy.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)


cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

o goddammit

ihttp://www.gilchriststudios.com/nancy/celeb2/10b.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, that hurt my head, but it was also immeasurably better than freakin' Mutts. So is the whole Bettie Page thing the Gilchrists' special touch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
back in 1994 ivan brunetti tried out for nancy - he came spookily close to the original strip's look and tone: http://www.ivanbrunetti.com/portfolio/misc/nancystrips.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.joebrainard.org/NANCY_MAIN.htm

anthony, Monday, 12 September 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Okay, should I buy this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/COMIC-STRIP-NANCY-DOLL_W0QQitemZ140281671292QQihZ004QQcategoryZ723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

cuz it's kinda awesome.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

That's freaking Little Lulu.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

My first thought too, Abbott.
But the "Field Enterprises" mark is the folks what own the Nancy trademark.

Perhaps this less humanized version will strike truer to home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-40s-Comic-Strip-Nancy-Doll-Georgene-Averill_W0QQitemZ280285480083QQihZ018QQcategoryZ36549QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

THERE we go. That is the Nancy I would buy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

srsly when did Nancy ever wear Moccasins?

Maybe it's like a Tijuana-style Lulu ripoff, that first one.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

I like the weird hydrocephalic Nancy; my gut tells me it's a licensed piece from the strips nuttier period.
Why is there no reprint set of Nancy material? It's certainly as marketable as Pogo.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

Even '20s-'30s strips when it was Fritzi Ritz before Nancy spin-off, she didn't look like that.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

Now i really want to buy this just to be sure.
But I can hardly justify it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

I have a great Nancy compendium from eBay ($8) that has commentary from Art Spiegelman & others. v. good!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Kitchen Sink did a buncha reprints that I would buy used if I could find them at the Strand. You know the whole Griffith "Three Rocks" philosophy, right?

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

That whole strip is in there.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

potential tattoo for when I just don't care anymore:
http://www.rdrop.com/%7Ehalf/Personal/Hobbies/Comics/Nancy/3Rocks.gif

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

and is AWESOME and true

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

haha forks I would get that

next tat I have lined up (hopefully as an xmas gift!) is a tat of the old Comics Code of Authority seal of approval

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

"Art Spiegelman explains how a drawing of three rocks in a background scene was Ernie's way of showing us there were some rocks in the background. It was always three. Why? Because two rocks wouldn't be 'some rocks.' Two rocks would be a pair of rocks. And four rocks was unacceptable because four rocks would indicate 'some rocks' BUT IT WOULD BE ONE ROCK MORE THAN WAS NECESSARY TO CONVEY THE IDEA OF 'SOME ROCKS.'"

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, a girl with a comic code authority seal gets love forever.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:37 (seventeen years ago)

I am thinking my inner arm between pit & right elbow.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

Those Kitchen Sink compilations are great. I wish I'd picked up more than the two I have -- they were cheaper than dirt for a while in the mid 90s.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

Did that publishing company die? They put out Cages, right?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

Denis Kitchen got caught in the speculator bubble-bust, sold out to Kevin Eastman...limbo.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:44 (seventeen years ago)

I would think the tramp stamp comics code would be the classy way to go.
All that Kitchen Sink stuff seems to have more or less disappeared from used book stores and comic shops in the city.
I think Tundra did Cages?
Kitchen Sink did fold, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Sink_Press
A shame, cause they were simply a decade or so ahead of their time.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

The Lil' Abner reprints are the most priceless stuff they did; I'm often tempted to blow a shitload of money and buy up a bunch of em.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

I am lucky, they have them at my public library.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Fucking Comics.com keeps interrupting their Lil Abner Classics in the middle of storylines!

There is no Grodd but Mallah and Congorilla is His Prophet. (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

maybe in the 60's, but I wouldn't call stuff like the Shmoo and the Bald Iggle the products of a bigoted wingnut.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

He could also tell hilarious slapstick nonsense story.

And is obv better (in quality, art & bigotry level) than say Katzenjammer Kids or Bringing Up Father.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

Katzenjammer Kids never made me anything other than confused and bored.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

Nancy, the voice of sanity in 1970

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 August 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

Coming soon.

KEEP CALM+++THRILL FACTOR OVERLOAD+++KEEP CALM (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:05 (sixteen years ago)

I liked the floral hipsters joke

salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

"bad gus"

Nancy By Ernie Bushmiller 1.8.50 pic.twitter.com/OJcJu1b0FR

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) January 8, 2023

mark s, Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:02 (three years ago)

Bad Gus

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:23 (three years ago)

Gas Bud

#homilytweet (cat), Sunday, 8 January 2023 22:08 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/L7SP2GU.png

mark s, Saturday, 21 January 2023 17:08 (three years ago)

nancy duchamp

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 January 2023 17:37 (three years ago)

Classic three-rock placement there.

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:58 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

Nancy Panel By Ernie Bushmiller pic.twitter.com/tyFR5zv8OL

— Nancy Comics by Ernie Bushmiller (@JohnnyCallicutt) February 6, 2023

mark s, Monday, 6 February 2023 21:04 (three years ago)

that’s how it was supposed to be

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 February 2023 21:04 (three years ago)

This could be us but you playing

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 23:27 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

what

https://assets.amuniversal.com/05503420daa801345620005056a9545d

visiting, Friday, 3 March 2023 03:12 (three years ago)

People used to take their shoes off at the movies, and Nancy was in a theater of adult men, thus explaining her now-hilarious looking footwear

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 3 March 2023 11:55 (three years ago)

i think they look cool

mark s, Friday, 3 March 2023 12:28 (three years ago)

Did they really though?

pplains, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:39 (three years ago)

five months pass...

After 1,674 slight variations on the same joke, jaimes confounds expectations by combining it with her other joke

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2023/08/26

Grandall Flange (wins), Saturday, 26 August 2023 07:15 (two years ago)

goddamn smirky eyebrow-raised badass poochie cartoons nowadays

Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 26 August 2023 08:13 (two years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/08/26/ernie-bushmiller-biography-nancy-three-rocks/

Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Sunday, 27 August 2023 13:44 (two years ago)

Ah i totally forgot that was coming out... thanks!

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

Wow! Perfect

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Fantagraphics trying again:

https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/coming-soon/products/nancy-wears-hats

The first volume in a new series collecting Ernie Bushmiller’s timeless and beloved Nancy!

visiting, Monday, 3 March 2025 18:41 (one year ago)

last year as warm-up: The Nancy Show, a history/art book edited by Maresca to accompany a Billy Ireland exhibition:

https://www.fantagraphics.com/products/the-nancy-show-celebrating-the-art-of-ernie-bushmiller

and a reissue of the mega-expanded book version of How To Read Nancy:

https://www.fantagraphics.com/products/how-to-read-nancy-the-elements-of-comics-in-three-easy-panels

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 17:46 (one year ago)

eleven months pass...

Overall, I can't say I'm a Caroline Cash fan, though yesterday's "woims" thing was weird enough to keep me reading for a while longer.

WmC, Monday, 23 February 2026 22:13 (three weeks ago)

Wow, I didn't even realise OJ had left. Loved the first few years of her run then I guess I got distracted and forgot about it.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 February 2026 22:33 (three weeks ago)

Yeah i missed that news too.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 23 February 2026 22:34 (three weeks ago)

People used to take their shoes off at the movies, and Nancy was in a theater of adult men, thus explaining her now-hilarious looking footwear

Still need confirmation on this

Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 February 2026 23:16 (three weeks ago)

Haven't read much of her Nancy yet but Caroline Cash rules.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 08:18 (three weeks ago)

its been pretty amusing so far. as much as I liked some of the Olivia Jaimes strips she did do the same jokes over and over again and I got the feeling like she was getting bored with it

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 14:35 (three weeks ago)

yeah OJ definitely burned out after the second year or so

Nhex, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 22:56 (three weeks ago)

i think the new ones are very good! and i like the artwork much more than OJ’s

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 February 2026 23:45 (three weeks ago)

Highly recommend her work:

https://okcomics.co.uk/products/peepee-poopoo-1-by-caroline-cash

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 25 February 2026 10:58 (three weeks ago)

"they pay me in woims" is a classic old nancy bit from when sluggo gets a job at a bait shack

trbh i think cash's strips are really quite faithful to the oblique, child-like simplicity of the OG series.. except.. EXCEPT a couple of sundays ago she did this!!

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/02/15

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 February 2026 19:28 (three weeks ago)

Putting yourself smoking a cigarette in a comic strip for children really is a choice in 2026

EsBeeKid (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 February 2026 05:18 (three weeks ago)

The editors probably at some time during the Gilchrist run arrived and have remained at the conclusion that children don't read Nancy anymore.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 February 2026 05:25 (three weeks ago)

xp I'm guessing the majority of readers of Nancy in 2026 are not children.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 26 February 2026 05:25 (three weeks ago)

The editors probably at some time during the Gilchrist run 20th century arrived and have remained at the conclusion that children don't read Nancy anymore.

congragulations (stevie), Thursday, 26 February 2026 09:23 (three weeks ago)

The editors probably at some time during the Gilchrist run 20th century arrived and have remained at the conclusion that children don't read Nancy comic strips anymore.

congragulations (stevie), Thursday, 26 February 2026 09:24 (three weeks ago)

Putting yourself smoking a cigarette in a comic strip for children really is a choice in 2026

Mary Whitehouse over here

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:21 (three weeks ago)

seriously though. i assume these are actually getting printed up in the funny pages in Sunday newspapers somewhere right? if there were actually any human editors of these things (weak laugh) i'd have expected them to be outraged, not run the strip etc

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:31 (three weeks ago)

The audience for comic strips - i.e. senior citizens - is I think less likely to get outraged over cigarette use than pretty much everyone else, though they are obv outraged at Cash for other reasons.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:34 (three weeks ago)

it’s the #58008 issue of PPPP, isn’t it

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Thursday, 26 February 2026 10:41 (three weeks ago)

interesting

https://bsky.app/profile/cashbrowns.bsky.social/post/3mgas2x6rsc26

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 18:38 (two weeks ago)

holy shit she just retconned the entire history of nancy

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 20:20 (two weeks ago)

maybe. or maybe there's a reason none of Aunt Fritzi's relationships seemed to last

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 20:23 (two weeks ago)

fritzie does look like a character from Love and Rockets

Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 21:49 (two weeks ago)

Wondering if the boomers who got angry when Gilchrist left and they couldn't jack it to Fritzi anymore are angry or turned on by this new development. Probably both.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 21:56 (two weeks ago)

fritzie does look like a character from Love and Rockets

I mean....

https://www.comics.org/character/717/

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 22:15 (two weeks ago)

CommonRuffian
4 hours ago
jaimes' run was good but this is reminding me it was missing a crucial element: the author wanting fritzi ritz carnally

visiting, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 22:29 (two weeks ago)

love it

map, Thursday, 5 March 2026 00:05 (two weeks ago)

two weeks pass...

playing the hits and i’m here for it

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/03/19

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 March 2026 22:53 (yesterday)

i really just think she gets the spirit of bushmiller

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2026/03/16

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 March 2026 22:55 (yesterday)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/adc5b2f367d75c8b47b947a3820b113d/tumblr_pcg1wjf8iP1qzfmh5o1_500.jpg

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Friday, 20 March 2026 00:02 (twelve hours ago)


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