This is the thread for John Waters' "A Dirty Shame" (link to trailer inside)

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So, this is the first NC-17 Waters flick in over twenty years.
Tracey Ullman
Johnny Knoxville
Chris Isaak
Selma Blair
...and the usual Waters suspects. Come anticipate with me, fellow sickos.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

new "I guess there's just two kinds of people, Miss Sandstone: my kind of people and assholes. It's rather obvious which category you fit into. Have a nice day." answers.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Does look like fun, though I admit the funniest laugh I got from the trailer was John Waters himself and his reading material. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

notice the trailer is rated for "all audiences". can't wait to see the real NC-17 stuff.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i can't get my hopes too high (i think crybaby was the last waters i even liked, nevermind loved) but the nc-17 does hold out hope that waters will deliver the goods though i doubt we're gonna see tracey ullman insert an evian bottle in her hooch (haha - i'm not saying this = "the goods" btw). still he's always good for at least a few laffs and he shoulda gotten a congressional medal of freedom or whatever that thing is they give people like bob hope, so i'll see it.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This might be a crap analogy, but I see Waters making a new NC-17 film as like Kiss putting the make-up back on. Sure, it won't be like it was in the 70's, but it's nice to see him at it again.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - waters making a new nc-17 film is like bertolucci making a new nc-17 film

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

hey that was my second kiss ref. today. i'm going for a hat trick.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock and roll over, Aaron.

Mr. Blount's observations are well put. I actually think relative restraint becomes him, though god knows I love the outrageousness as well. I also like to think that though Bob Shaye has obviously been Waters' moneyman for most of his career that all that Lord of the Rings cash meant Shaye could just afford to say, "Dude, whatever you want to make, I've ensured my company's survival and I don't care anymore!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I have always enjoyed mr. waters' films, but they are good enough without the shock value. they could be rated g and still be funny

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

If you don't mind, some spoilers from Ain't It Cool News...

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

its limited release for baltimore on the 17th and is nationwide (but only 100 prints!) on the 24th.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 19 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Occasional flashes of J.W.'s brilliance, but, sadly, only occasional.

"Sex addiction is a disease."
"Being a WHORE is a disease?"

But he's still the greatest.

― EComplex (EComplex), Sunday, 3 October 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

trailers always seem to make films like this seem much much worse than they actually are - the swift editing hammering home the gross-out bits and inane humour way too much. it also makes it hard to distinguish this from Farrellys and Wayans movies, tho Waters does strike me as more intelligent than those. is there much difference?

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Um, are you asking this without having seen any of his films?
If so, rent Desperate Living and report back.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:28 (twenty years ago)

i mean just this film in particular

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah, well everything he's done since Hairspray hasn't been that much different from Farrelly et al. This one has the NC-17 though so I'm hoping for something more, maybe?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Not much more, sadly. It's really not at all clear to me why it got an NC-17.

American films have gotten more and more prudish, but in odd ways. I don't think there's anything visual in the film that couldn't be shown in an R-rated movie. No violence, not really any sex, certainly none graphic. It's just what the characters talk about and the bizarre colloquial language used that seems to have freaked out the censors. IMHO.

Similarities to the Farrelly Bros. is entirely superficial. Even though it's not his best work, no one could have made the film but J.W.

― EComplex (EComplex), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago)

My grandma and my mom saw it.

I don't know what's more shocking:

My mom not likeing it or my grandma loving it

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago)

The climax of this film was sort of dud. Violence as a sexual release is not, unfortunately, a radical new sex act.

Throughout, I was thanking the comedy gods that Waters is so adept at congregating fantastic comedic ensembles, otherwise this one would've been a chore.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 10 October 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I am going to see this tomorrow with another ilxor.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 11 October 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago)

i think _Cry Baby_ was far more superior than anything the Farrellys have done...

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Monday, 11 October 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago)

All his stuff is. Waters is on a totally different level than the Farrellys, a much more interesting POV.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 11 October 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I went out to get "Pecker" on DVD last night - the shop had "Pecker" on its own for 19.99 (!!) or a triple DVD pack of "Pecker", "Hairspray" and "A Dirty Shame" (which I've never seen or even actually heard of before last night) for the same price. We watched it - it was funny, in places very funny, but it went on too long. It was obvious fairly early on that it was going to be a throwback to some extent to the style/outlook of his earler films. Thinking about it is funnier than actually watching it was, strangely enough.

the "making of" feature on the DVD was v enjoyable. Waters and his long-time associates are always funny, and the story of the actress who plays Ullman's character's mother accepting the job w/o knowing what the film was going to be about, deciding she'd better read the script on the train up to the shoot, and arriving in near hysterics, having to be calmed & consoled by other cast members was very funny.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 6 January 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

saw this last night - John Waters really cheers me up. LET'S GO SEXIN

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

altho plotwise it kinda goes nowhere (like a number of his films), I didn't mind because there were just so many funny little one-liners and great imagery. the montages of mental imagery when people were hit on the head = k-lassic.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the yard full of bear couples.

― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Geez, his comedic sense seemed to utterly desert him here, a couple scenes aside. The soundtrack > the film.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

the songs in the film are truly amazing ("my pussy's sore" etc)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

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