Why would there ever be a robot revolution?

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Isn't the lust for power a human attribute? Wouldn't murder not be effecient?

I mean, despite all the science fiction to the contrary it seems to me the closest the robots could ever come to a revolution is to say ignore us and go on doing what theyre programmed to do and maybe run us over if we got in the way.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 25 July 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

February 11, 2017. Mark your calender.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 25 July 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Or your calendar. Just watch yr back on 2/11/17. TEH ROBOTS!

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 25 July 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The robots hate our freedom. And our eating habits.

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://fscwasteland.com/barang/0301_gloomy-roboto.jpg

― weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the robots will never have to revolt; maybe they'll just glide into power when the alternative is simply too difficult to unseat.

Then again, maybe the revolutionary robots will be mystified by cheese, and the scent of smoked gouda will spread dissension among their ranks....

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)

And inspire the first robot sect, Goudism.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck this shits me. Suddenly every bloody news show in the entire world is asking if robots will take over the world, and coincidentally, at the same time, a crap generic US film about robots gets released. GEE, WHAT AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE.

Sorry.

― That's the Way (uh huh uh huh) I Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

ROWBAWTS WONT REVOLT AS LOGN AS FWE FEED EM GOOD PASS IT ON

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Sunday, 25 July 2004 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

This is probably the best ressource on the topic of this thread: http://www.asimovlaws.com/

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 25 July 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

TWEE ROBOTRS R TEH UNSAFE

― weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

a crap generic US film about robots

Directed by that well known American Alex Proyas, with whom Adam has nothing in common in terms of citizenship. Oh wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, have you guys seen I, Robot?

It's a metric fuckload better than it has any right to be.

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Monday, 26 July 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear robots,

Can't we all just get along?

Cheers,
Ste

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, robots don't technically have consciousness or anything vaguely resembling human psychology. It's just a mathematically-based instruction set designed to respond to random variables. They have no conception of "the world" to begin with - everything is just input converted into binary numbers to be processed.

So how can that lead to an independent thought process where it develops an outer-world sort of initiative, values, and fears? And from there seek out abstract goals such as power, domination, and so on. A robot doesn't know it's a slave to human programming, nor would it know how to deal with that fact and what it does or doesn't mean if you were to tell it.

Ultimately, it's just a tool. Sure, you can program a robot to fire a gun at anything moving, but that doesn't make it evil. It's just very mal malware.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 26 July 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno. plenty of fun can be had with evil robots.

http://www.thg.ru/game/20040126/images/001_hk47.jpg

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Craig Charles to be first victim of the robots uprising!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

humans are lazy=robots will take over

― kephm, Monday, 26 July 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

kephm on monday morning=lets hope so

― kephm, Monday, 26 July 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Ultimately, it's just a tool. Sure, you can program a robot to fire a gun at anything moving, but that doesn't make it evil. It's just very mal malware.

program it to digest information and use logic inferences on things it (say) read from books. if it's properly built it'd eventually it'll develop it's own consciousness.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Right. If they get sentient = the capacity to reprogram themselves, they'll be considered legal persons by the judicial system. One of the goals of AI ethics is to make sure their goal system is more flexible than the rigid asimov's laws for an example, so they are better at learning and being part of a moral network and be more adapted to the real world. If the favorized capitalists force sentient robots to be unwilling workers (Greg Bear said "In his 1921 play "RUR," Karel Capek named his artificial servants "robots," from the Czech word robota, which roughly translates as "unwilling worker." (It could also mean "someone who does boring work."") then I guess a robot revolution is envisageable. Human anarchists would probably help them.

― SÃ©bastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 26 July 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/450/b0608_450.jpeg

― r2d2's revenge, Monday, 26 July 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/07/26/business/26pate.xl.jpg

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The thread title sounds like the title of a Brian Eno / David Byrne Split EP

― itsa me, mario! (x Jeremy), Monday, 26 July 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

bah. I meant to post a pic of HK-47, the psychotic assassin droid from "Knights of the Old Republic". He's easily the best character in the game.

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

did you beat that game?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Optimus Prime would stop him, he's the David Hasslehoff of robots.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yup, beat it on Light Side.

i took a break in the midst of playing it Darkside to play Fallout 2, which has now diverted me into playing all these Black Isle RPGs(Icewind Dale 1 & 2, Lionheart, etc).

Note: Fallout 2 also has robots. Icewind Dale does not. Yet.

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

A "robot revolution"? The means of production being seized by, er, the means of production? Then what?

― Neil Willett (Neil Willett), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

How's Lionheart?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.thehundreds.com/images/jeffsotogallery8.jpg

Lionheart is flawed, as they took the standard GURPS/Fallout/Black Isle system (the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. one) and dumped it into what's pretty much a Diablo II clone set in Renaissance-era Europe. The graphics, music, sound, & voiceovers are top-notch, but the gameplay is lacking. Apparently, about halfway thru the game, when your character makes it from Barcelona to France, it just starting deluging you with Zerg-rushing enemies, and the game degenerates into pure diablo hack n' slash.

which is too bad, since i always prefer playing RPGs as i did my first time thru KOTOR: as a smooooth-talkin' scoundrel. Gamespot review here, and pretty pictures.

...hey! that robot has tittays! and a bowling ball for a head!

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Directed by that well known American Alex Proyas, with whom Adam has nothing in common in terms of citizenship. Oh wait.

Pffft, can't blame me for where he was born. Next you'll be blaming me for this:

http://www.casinopromotions.com.au/images/e_sigley.jpg

― That's the Way (uh huh uh huh) I Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 26 July 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.cartelia.net/poster/24/yor.jpg

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so happy to see that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.globalhermit.com/ilx/yo-la-roboto.jpg

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

OK Yo, Robot is the best thing I've seen all day.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean put indie glasses and trucker hats on all the robots. I see.

― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The devil is in the details.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

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