The official name of Star Wars Episode III is...*drum roll*

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Revenge of the Sith

(At this point, though, post-LOTR, this is feeling so damned anticlimactic.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

oh well

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 25 July 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping for "Dance of the Midiclorians" but...I guess not.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"Revenge of the Shit"

Actually, I liked the second episode a lot more than the first one, maybe Lucas will surprise us with the third chapter. Not that I care that much, but I'm still probably gonna see it, what with all the childhood nostalgia and stuff.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 July 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I liked the second episode a lot more than the first one, maybe Lucas will surprise us with the third chapter.

I have to agree. Frankly, if he delivers on the idea that there's a lot of death, doom and destruction, then I'm all for it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I am now disappointed it isn't called "Episode III: Drum Roll" (starring Nick Cannon as Devon).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

You can do all sorts of things with iMovie these days.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Your search "revenge of the shit" "star wars" already revealed 5 hits.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHA

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't like the first or second episodes at all. i hate them equally. There are two reasons why they seemed poor cf episodes 4-7:

CGI rather than models

I was only little when 4-7 came out so I didn't noitce how poor the dialogue was. For episodes 1 & 2 (where it prolly wasn't actually poorer) it was all too apparent.

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, "Dance Of The Midiclorians" seconded.

In order to truly test the faith of his audience, the final five minutes of the movie consists of George Lucas, clad only in briefs and a Darth Vader helmet, waving a lightsaber slowly and moaning "wwooooaam....wwoooooaam..."

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Most fans have said that they didn't like it the first time, found it more interesting the second or third time, and then decided that if you cut out the part where he sneezes it would have been a GREAT scene.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.globalhermit.com/ilx/starwars-ep3.jpg

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 July 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Or, if you prefer..
http://www.globalhermit.com/ilx/starwars-ep3.gif

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 July 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Anakin still has Strokes hair!

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Sunday, 25 July 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I liked the second episode a lot more than the first one, maybe Lucas will surprise us with the third chapter.
I have to agree. Frankly, if he delivers on the idea that there's a lot of death, doom and destruction, then I'm all for it.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), July 25th, 2004.

oTM

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe third time will be the charm for Marion Barry, too.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

HA! The typical politico's mantra.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Sunday, 25 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The original title of Return of the Jedi was Revenge of the Jedi.

I guess Lucas really wanted his Revenge at some point.

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was great, I loved it,' said fan Barren Wright, 35, from Modesto. "This takes it back to the classic trilogy.

My cynical side screams "Delusion", but my inner geek hopes this latest version won't be as shit. Considering that LOTR and Potter swallowed much of the world's cash while literally creating new advances in CGI, the new flick might come off looking more like a digital colouring book than the greatest flick ever.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the love scene in Attack of the Clones is the only time I've been in the cinema where a supposedly serious scene has had people L'ing OL.

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, but there were clones and robots n' shit!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Just one scene?

You could hear me, then? They DO say that sound carries....

(xpost)

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what peoples reaction to the original trilogy would be if it was first released now.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

God help me, but...

The best parts of Episode 2 were better than anything in Episode 1 by a long shot, particularly the opening chase scene, the scenes where Obi Wan is on that strange ocean world, and some of the final battle scene. However, I've never felt more embarrassed for a film than whenever Hayden Christensen was trying to act conflicted or sinister.

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

My theory is this -- all Lucas had to do was have something where Anakin, after spouting all the drivel, says, "Well, I admit, I lifted that all from some bad romance holomovie [or something], it's just cliches." Pause. "But the feelings are all true." A bit of light humor and better dramatic impact both.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

he shoulda said "you be a woman, and i'll be a jedi" and then mounted her

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

who's most relieved this thing's finally fucking over? macgregor? portman? lucas?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post = That would have explained the fucking 'is that a nightmare he's reacting to or a blowjob he's getting' bit.

I suspect McGregor. How much you wanna bet he's lurking around Wellington right now trying to even be cast as an extra in King Kong?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha -- McCallum gets his:

Meanwhile, the makers of the third "Star Wars" prequel revealed the movie's new title: "Revenge of the Sith." But before the title presentation, "Star Wars" producer Rick McCallum had to endure some ugly barbs during a Q&A session.

One woman asked him to please minimize the romance elements in "Episode III" and another asked that he kill Jar-Jar Binks, the silly alien character "who ruined the whole series," according to another fan.

The questioner's attack drew cheers from the audience, drowning out McCallum's reply that they shouldn't worry about Jar-Jar.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what peoples reaction to the original trilogy would be if it was first released now.

Pauline Kael's reviews of them should give you an idea.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The original title of Return of the Jedi was Revenge of the Jedi.

I had signed publicity photo from C-3P0 (OK, Anthony Daniels) with the 'Revenge of the Jedi' logo on it. Sadly, I have lost it. I am an idiot.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 25 July 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just finished reading Biskind's book Easy Riders, Raging Bulls yesterday, and I have to say that Lucas comes out very pathetically by the end. That he really wanted to be an experimental filmmaker, was brought kicking and screaming into American Graffiti, hated Star Wars and only did the rest of the trilogy to build his own studio (which later became ILM/Skywalker Ranch/LucasArts/Skywalker Sound)...which he didn't end up needing b/c he didn't want to direct after the disastrous shoot for Star Wars. He also alienated his wife Marcia, once Scorsese's editor, by the end of the trilogy, so much so that she says she feels partially responsible for the cinematic legacy that followed. This was written in 1998, and I'm pretty certain Biskind got a quote from him saying that he finally has accepted that it's his fate to go back to Star Wars b/c it's basically all he has anymore. Very sad.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 25 July 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

and LucasArts led to the release of Grim Fandango, so it was all worth it.

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Monday, 26 July 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

michael bay should be directing.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 26 July 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, you know what fanboys? 'Revenge Of The Shit' isn't funny. It will never be, you tumescent, pock-marked sockjockeys!

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Monday, 26 July 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the thing about the Episode II 'love' scene: how WOULD two people completely awkward, clueless and inexperienced wrt to love (as is the case with both characters) handle that situation? by saying stupid stuff stupidly, which is a handy excuse for all involved with that scene really, but yeh it still sucked i guess...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

what is this star wars 7 that you speak of????

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 July 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)

episode 7, i mean, rather than the Star Wars Rugby 7. (that'd be good though. think chewbacca would make a good scrum half)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 July 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

sigh
i have never understood all the 1 & 2 hate - i liked them both

yes there's all this 'midichlorians' stuff (didn't bother me), the future emperor is a bit lispy and dweeby looking, django fett was too easily dispatched, JJB is annoying, the plot of 1 has no background structure/explanation (sort of goes with the 'look it's just about Good vs Evil' stuff, i think), and a trick missed in ep 2 where they could have made count dooku actually on the right side (but no-one realises at the time), and yes, that romancezzzzzzzz....
but
- JJB was no more annoying than those fuxoring ewoks and their cunningly placed trees-on-ropes
- CGI seemed good to me: didn't have that light & cartoony quality that bedevils some of it (eg spiderman, vanhelsing)
- beautiful production design
- better action sequences: the spindly droids no worse than the barn-door missing stormtroopers of 4-6 (do they start cloning mr magoo at some point between 3 and 4 ?) ...and the Destroyer Droids were great...plus MUCH better lightsaber action
- maul & tyranus not bad major villian fill-ins in absence of a vader

I was only little when 4-7 came out

i suspect this has alot to do with the degree of scorn

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

the Coruscant scenes in both of the first two episodes are still brilliant

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT IS EPISODE 7.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Episode 7 - you know! The one where Jah Jah Binks turns out to be Darth Vader's mum.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Triumph of the Ignoroids"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Americans Be Failing Math"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(And English)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you mean "Americans Be Failing Geography".

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"DROIDS BE SNOOTY"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wookies are hairy, right? Ladies, back me up on this. ARGH!"

And thus Darth Sinbad was killed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually there's a thought, remake Star Wars with the cast of Necessary Roughness.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it when George Lucas gets all serious about why the films are crap:

There is one scene in which Anakin Skywalker thrashes camply about in his sleep, crying "No!" at his nightmares. It is such a terrible cliche that one assumes it was put in for parodic value; it certainly had the audience in hysterics when I saw it. Lucas doesn't smile. "It's not deliberately camp. I made the film in a 1930s style. It's based on a Saturday matinee serial from the 1930s, so the acting style is very 30s, very theatrical, very old-fashioned. Method acting came in in the 1950s and is very predominant today. I prefer to use the old style. People take it different ways, depending on their sophistication."

(from a Guardian interview

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, Where's My Tauntaun?

― Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

What are the Sith getting "revenge" for? Isn't everything going "according to plan" for them? (Or is it "revenge" for some centuries-ago defeat in the extended Star Wars universe?)

I, too, hated Ep. I and pretty much loved Ep. II, and I think Ep. III ought to be awesome, given all the plot points that it'll be hitting.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Star Wars: ROTS seems a fitting title.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, that's good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

How did I/they not notice that!

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.game-revolution.com/games/pc/rpg/star_wars_galaxies_tauntaun.jpg

(for Huck)

― Nemo (JND), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Episode 3 had already come out and I'd ignored it. Back to square one.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about the whole prequel series is that there's none of the suspense or intrigue that the first three had (to my 6 yr old brain). Like, we know that Yoda and Obi-Wan survive intact and that Anakin goes to the Dark Side. We know what Palpatine's up to.
What if G.Lu finds his nads and totally makes it so that Ep. III contradicts EVERYTHING we see in the formerly "middle" trilogy?
Like it turns out Darth Vader is really Jimmy Smits, and Corbin Bernsen and that Baldwin Brother who's recently converted to some branch of Christianity that condones skateboarding turn up as younger versions of the Grand Moff Tarkin Twins, only they're not twins at all, since they're different ages, and not related in any way?
And then Chewbacca shows up and EATS Yoda?
And then Harrison Ford wakes up in bed beside Suzanne Pleshette and says "honey, I've just had the strangest dream."
roll credits

― Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Episode VII: Talk To The Hand Oh Wait It's Come Off Again

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

you answered your own question morris. as Darth Maul sez in TPM 'at last we will have our revenge' referring to how the Sith were supposedly eradicated by the Jedi previously

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

First the Jedi eradicated the Sith (except a few) then the Sith eradicated the Jedi (except a few), then the last Jedi killed the last two Siths (or so we think). Any guess as to what Ep. 7,8,9 would have been?

― Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

No more hash for you, Huck.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

(big xpost)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Suzanne Pleshette (sp?) still alive? I like her.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

(although, oddly enough, episodes 7, 8 and 9 would have been all about Mark Hamill withholding hash from Huck)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Search For Curly's Stash

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"mmmm all the time in my backpocket it was yeess"

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bah. That's the whole point - the revenge bit is for a centuries old pile of stuff that we (the audience

They should have called it 'Episode III - the one where the whole fucking point of the entire bloody prequels comes about, ie, where we first hear old asthma breath himself make his first appearance in his S/M getup after being horribly wounded'

It would have been better to do a Michael Moore vs Palpatine movie; Dude where's my old style creaking if still functioning intergalactic Republic?

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

They need to admit defeat to LOTR and bring in some Orcs somehow.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

And then Chewbacca shows up and EATS Yoda

This is making me giggle tears. I HART HUCK.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Skeevy Star Wars slash is no one's friend.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's not deliberately camp. I made the film in a 1930s style. It's based on a Saturday matinee serial from the 1930s, so the acting style is very 30s, very theatrical, very old-fashioned. Method acting came in in the 1950s and is very predominant today. I prefer to use the old style. People take it different ways, depending on their sophistication."

Talk about an excuse for not being able to direct actors!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

So is G.Lu trying to say that people who don't like his 1930s style of bad, hammy, acting (really just stage acting squeezed onto a screen, when you learn that Shatner did Shakespeare at Stratford for many years before S-Trek, his much-guffawed-at style makes sense, but anyway...) are unsophisticated?

― Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he's saying you don't have to like it, but you're unsophisticated if you don't recognise that it's deliberate.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he's the one who's not sophisticated enough to pull that serial-melodrama style with the kind of pinache other directors managed to put into Empire and most of Jedi.

― Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://digitalbits.com/gfx/episode3logo.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the trailer for SW: Knights of the Old Republic II: the Sith Lords has been posted.

doesn't show much, but a great use of Force Grip to crush someone's larynx, with full crunching-celery sound...

also, some of the guys who did Fallout 2 are working on it

― Kingfish von Bandersnatch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...

Victoria man’s One Man Star Wars to perform at kickoff party for Lucas’s Episode 3
By Suzanne Beaubien
EDMONTON (CP) — At last count, Charles Ross had seen Star Wars 474 times.
After taping over his dad’s Shogun tape in the early 1980s, he watched the George Lucas classic on video every morning before his parents woke up.
He could recite every line from memory, sing each refrain of the closing credits and, like most little sci-fi fanatics, could imitate the sounds of light sabres, star fighters and Wookies.
But instead of letting those thousands of hours become “negative time,” the 30-year-old from Prince George, B.C., decided to turn his love for the classic science-fiction trilogy into a frenetic one-man homage that has sold out shows across Canada and the United States.
And now, the actor trained at the University of Victoria and self-described “nerd” is taking his hit play One Man Star Wars further than he had ever imagined — in front of an audience of thousands of hard-core fans at a four-day Lucas-Films-sponsored party in Indianapolis that will mark the April 2005 release of Revenge of the Sith, the final instalment of Lucas’s epic.
“When you love someone you never get tired of telling them that you love them. That’s what this is like for me,” said Ross, who just finished a run at Edmonton’s Fringe theatre festival, where he sold out 10 shows of his latest play, One Man Lord of the Rings. The show is a severely abridged send-up of the heavyweight Tolkien tome-turned-movie.
From Jedi knight Obi-Wan Kenobi to Huttese-speaking crime lord Jabba, Ross perfectly mimics every vocal nuance of the many characters in the Star Wars trilogy. He snorts and pings familiar sound effects and even sings the instrumental score.
“People always said I had a really good ear,” said Ross. “It turns out I’m not a very good singer, but I’m great at impressions.”
More than just mimicry, Ross’s show is also tiringly physical. Clad in elbow and knee pads, he stalks about as an imperial walker one moment and writhes on the floor as an amputated Luke Skywalker the next. He enacts every battle, simultaneously playing both attacker and attackee, and by the show’s end the stage floor is smeared with sweat.
Ross recently interrupted a stint on Canada’s Fringe circuit to perform to his biggest crowd yet — 3,000 serious fans at Comic-Con, an annual international comic book convention in San Diego.
While there, Lucas Film also paid him to host the Star Wars Fan Film Awards, an annual event that screens fan-made spoofs and tributes that are judged by Lucas himself.
Kelly Finnegan, Ross’s manager in Vancouver, said because Star Wars fans are so dedicated to the saga, it’s important for Ross to get it right.
“It’s so dangerous when you’re working with something that’s so steeped into the fabric of the culture,” said Finnegan, who is also an actor. “If you don’t do it well, it can blow up in your face so easily.”
Ross is strict in his adaptation and only strays from an abridged version of the three films’ original script in satirical asides that require viewers to have some familiarity with the films.
“My show is all about the details,” said Ross.
After Darth Vadar takes off his helmet upon imminent death, Ross’s Skywalker exclaims, “I thought you were black!” a riff on voice actor James Earl Jones’ that would go over the heads of neophytes.
It’s this devotion to Lucas’s films that makes Ross’s play work, said Finnegan.
“Because he loves the material so much, and he embraces the material so much, you get that in his performance. He still has that child-like amazement and wonderment when he’s doing the show, so I think that really percolates from the audience.”
The idea for the show came as a joke between friends in 1994.
“The idea just seemed absurd enough to try,” said Ross.
Six years later, he crafted a script for three people. But when he practised it for his long-time friend and director T.J. Dawe, it became clear the show should be done alone.
Ross said one of his favourite characters is Skywalker, who he affectionately spoofs as a whiny adolescent, who kicks the ground childishly when he doesn’t get his way.
“As a kid he was the one I definitely identified with. He just has big dreams and big hopes and the world sort of presents itself to him and he takes a chance.”

― Huck, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

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