Stakeholder!

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up until last Thursday, the only person I'd heard use this word was Tony Blair. Then suddenly I'm on a course and everyone's using it!!!

Do you find stakeholder a useful word? Do you find it helpful in general parlance?

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's used a lot in Development Studies which I major in, I'm not sure whether I like it. I guess it's easier than saying "those concerned with".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude... it's been a part of corporate speak for ages now. I've used it in pretty much every presentation or proposal I write (at least twice today), and have done so for about 5 or 6 years. It's loathesome and makes my stomach turn, but not as much as "going forward" or "bespoke solutions" or "deliverables" or...

God I hate my job

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Generally used in my case as an alternate for 'shareholders', when referring to a wider audience of people in a company, or 'key decision makers', or anyone important involved in private (i.e. non-listed) companies. In a nutshell, they are people that have a vested interest in the decision/action/project you are discussion.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

'discussing'
(so this must mean I'm dis-gus-ting!)

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

people were using "buy-in" a lot on the course too.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I need a non-company pension. Any advice Mr B?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a good new labour term, used alongside empowering , partnership , shared agenda , consensus , and not shirking from tough decisions

Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Mark, can't help you. I know little of your UK systems...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

ahhhh! keys to writing for the government: use 'stakeholder', 'buy-in', 'utilise' rather than 'use', and never ever use one word or clause where half a dozen will work. oh it's so awful.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 26 July 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Stakeholder is often used in the same sense as shareholder, but it's not actually the same thing. A stakeholder is supposed to be someone indifferent who holds the bet while awaiting the result of the horserace or whatever so that both gamblers are satisfied the other person won't just take off without paying.

Huck, Monday, 26 July 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't a stakeholder a vampire slayer's assistant?

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I dislike it. It confuses shareholder and other interested parties in a terrible way. It tends to suggest that all 'stakeholders' have common cause and motive, which can hardlyever be true.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate any of these corporate/marketing terms for reasons such as Ed's above. They are misleading, confusing or just plain silly. "Going forward" is so heavily abused where I work, and in the media, at the moment that I want to puke. Even fotballers speak like this in end of match interviews. Argh!

A good read in this regard is "Death Sentence" by Don Watson - its Australian in base but I recommend it to grammar mavens everywhere.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The term Stakeholder was brought to the fore after the raft of corporate govenance legislation that was issued a few year ago, basically saying that corporations should not be exclusively run for the shareholders, they should be working for all people who may be impacted by the corporation these people were called the stakeholders.

Davel (Davel), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)


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