Why does everybody hate Vincent Gallo?

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I don't really know anything about him.

― maryann, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who is that guy?

― maryann, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I mean, yeah, but who is he really?

― maryann, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Ethan Hawke of a sadder generation.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't hate him, I am afraid of him.

― rainy, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He's kinda sexy in a creepy ex-con way.

― turner, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

he's woody allen sexy only not hardly as much.

― ethan, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's funny because it's true

― turner, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

he's on warp so he must be good (I know to many people conected with warp to say otherwise)

― Ed, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He did a Corinne Day photo-shoot in my flat last spring and seemed really nice, if a bit forceful in the personality department. We sat on my bed and talked about Jenny Holzer, Barbara Kruger and Harmony Korine, who he has very good reason to HATE.

They ran the pictures from that shoot in the Observer about a month ago.

― suzy, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

film-wise i don't know all that much about him, though i have seen Buffalo '66 and will go out on a limb and call it overrated. i might get the album as i like Warp stuff and it sounds vaguely interesting.

― katie, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People hate Vincent Gallo because he thinks he is God's gift to the many things he does (ie acting, writing, directing, music making). That at least - is why I hated him. Nevertheless after watching Bufallo 66 I had to think that maybe he did have a point.

That said - after watching Confessions Of A Trick Baby where he plays a paedophilic Mexican nun I had to say Bwa-ha-ha-ha!!

― Pete, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think he's okay! I enjoyed both Palookaville and Buffalo 66. When they make the film of the book I'm novelising I reckon he'll want to be in it!

― james, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

w.goatee beard AND greasy unkempt beard!!

― mark s, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You got it!

― james, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But not - I hope - with Nun's habit.

― Pete, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't heard his music, but Buffalo 66 was great.

I saw him on the street in NYC last spring having a loud bitchy conversation with a hipster girl. He was walking hunched over and fast, yelling, "EIGHTIES? EIGHTIES? WHADDAYA MEAN - EIGHTIES? SHE WASN'T EVEN BORN IN THE EIGHTIES!" He was artfully dressed like a bum, with a dr. who-length scarf and bad sunglasses.

It seemed such a perfectly constructed Vincent Gallo moment that it was almost like running into the guy in the Mickey Mouse suit at Disneyland.

― fritz, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why indeed? He and his brother make damn good wine! (Ducks, awaits the barrage of virtual chatroom furniture flying at his head).

― Will, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You know what it is? I think it's his voice more than anything else that irritates me. Might be why I found Buffalo 66 hard to stomach.

― Nicole, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*Eames chair wings its way towards Will's head*

Ernst and Julio Gallo are called Los Dos Bros by my mother. For years.

― suzy, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

whereas my Dad talks about drinking a bottle of Julio Iglesias.

― DV, Friday, 9 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...

He does not have the talent to back up his self-righteous claims

― Kevin G., Saturday, 28 February 2004 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a big Yes fan, apparently....despite his membership in Jean-Michel Basquiat's arguably seminal No Wave band, Gray.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 28 February 2004 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...

I think I am still the only person on ILX who thinks Gallo and Harmony Korine are good and interesting filmmakers!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

NO WAY!!! MEE TOO!!!

― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought you are right!
Not in your opinions but
that you were ALONE!

― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm alone in many things. I don't mind it.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The Brown Bunny was an improvement over the last 2 acts of B '66.

I saw "Palookaville" again the other night, and he can be VERY funny when unpretentious (ditto "Arizona Dream," at least the uncut version).

His politics and personal style are slapworthy, of course.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the end of B'66.

I forgot about Palookaville!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You and me, Dean, we're the same. Sorta

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like those filmmakers. I missed The Brown Bunny, though. Buffalo '66 will be very high on my list for the ILE Film Poll.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Brown Bunny was an improvement over the last 2 acts of B '66."

then it must rule because the kicker's slomo strip bar with "heart of the sunrise" on in the background is mega

― anonymous poster, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Should I do that poll? Do you like Herzog?

xpost

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i like b66

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish that Brown Bunny were two hours longer and didn't have that bj bit at the end.

― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahaha!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Me? I've never seen any Herzog. My familiarity with him only extends to his acting role in julien donkey-boy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

you poor child! You DO need Netflix.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

He should be called "Crazy Vincent" Gallo (a la "Crazy Joe" Gallo)

Last weekend I had my shoes compared to CR's in B66.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember the shoes.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked her in that.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Aren't they are red a la The Wizard of OZ?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

So what Herzog do I put in my queue? Aguirre, Wrath of God?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. And The Enigma Of Kasper Hauser.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't stand Vincent Gallo, but Harmony Korine might even be worse as a filmmaker (I actually Korine can be an okay screenwriter, at least he tries in that role.) Gummo is one of the most boring unpleasant movies I've ever had the misfortune to watch.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

FITZCARRALDO!!!!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Gummo is great (in parts, at least)! You must have seen more unpleasant movies than that.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Any movie where you haul a boat up a mountain is alright by me.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that bored me as much as Gummo. The ratio of boringness to unpleasantness in Gummo was among the highest in my nearly 30 years of cinema viewing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure I can think of something worse if I put my mind to it!

What about when they beat up the chair????

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Gummo. A Crack Up At the Race Riots (HK's book) is great too.

― Aaron Hertz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc if you're curious you should see the doc herzog made about klaus kinski, my best fiend. wow.

― anonymous poster, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't recollect the chair beatings.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It is like a 15-20 minute scene! Just of ritual chair beating!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

DON'T SEE THE INVINCIBLE (or whatever it was called) THOUGH! It's terrible!

I remember the semi-ritual cat shooting. That was enough for me.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://gallery.crushcrazy.org/albums/avn/DSC01395.sized.jpg

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It is like a 15-20 minute scene! Just of ritual chair beating!

Yeah, that scene was awesome, I must say.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend took that pic on Saturday at the Adult Video awards in Vegas.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome, really special!

xpost! ditto!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean xxpost

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

jay you gotta see my best fiend! it's one of my favourite movies! especially to watch when you've just smoked a big joint all by yourself!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow man, if VG was capable of growing a beard like that, why did he do scraggly for so long?? I'm lovin' the rabbinical look.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(thanx for all the herzog recommendations, folx!!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow Stormy you have friends in "the other industry"!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I like scraggly!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

He has cult eyes.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

more like 'friend of a friend'; this person isn't involved, but knows someone that is, so went to attend the event for the fuck of it . (um, so to speak)

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

sure sure.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Gallo. Buffalo '66 is a brilliant movie, it never resorts to the obviousness that's afflicted American indie movies as much as Hollywood for the last 15 years. And it's got a heart the size of a beach ball.

As for the persona Gallo projects in interviews and such, he seems to say a lot more honest and thoughtful stuff than he does bitchy or boastful. I don't think his self-praise is any more or less honest than the modesty most artists project. People who hate Gallo are just afraid of passion. He rule.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus he has an awesome collection of trousers

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The Brown Bunny was hilarious.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Gallo was excellent on Howard Stern last year, and Buffalo '66 is a sentimental favorite of mine. Never got around to seeing BB.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Gummo was, per John Waters, "a new kind of sick."

The bj and aftermath in BB is pretty lame.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

John Waters has excellent taste in movies, his end of year list in Artforum was superb!

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"People who hate Gallo are just afraid of passion."

Or maybe we just despise mediocrity and using excessive self-promotion to mask the aformentioned.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

John Waters has excellent taste in movies, his end of year list in Artforum was superb!

Uh ... Tarnation was his #1?!?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Or not.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't seen Tarnation. In terms of "the art of the list" it was just great reading, but I did agree with a lot of his choices.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I am still the only person on ILX who thinks Gallo and Harmony Korine are good and interesting filmmakers!

-- .adam

I thought parts of The Brown Bunny were sublime. Amazing. In parts. And speaking of parts, Vince showed all of his.

what I wrote at the time:

http://entertainmentcomplex.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2004/8/28/131750.html
http://entertainmentcomplex.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2004/9/7/136881.html

― EComplex (EComplex), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtPubXdXqYM

― velko, Friday, 26 February 2010 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Ugh. And Boner had to be the one to die.

― fat ass idiot butt munch (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

Ebert had a great line after Gallo called him a "fat pig" for his hatred of The Brown Bunny:

"I will one day be thin but Vincent Gallo will always be the director of 'The Brown Bunny.'"

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 26 February 2010 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

hahahaha

― zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

ebert zing top ten all time imo

― RAYBAN L01US J@gg3r (jjjusten), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

considering how ebert got thin it's sort of a pyrrhic zing

― velko, Friday, 26 February 2010 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

wasn't that part of a much longer exchange? the way i heard it at some point ebert talked about how in having had a colonoscopy he knew that he was at least responsible for producing a better film than the brown bunny

― Norman Mail (schlump), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, Ebert said he was more entertained by watching his colonoscopy on the monitor. Also, he lost 86 pounds prior to his current health problems.

And to be fair, Ebert changed his tune upon viewing a new edit of the film.

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 26 February 2010 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

Roger Ebert is the world's most even-keeled admirable man.

― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

the whole gallo-ebert thing seems like a big setup between the two.

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Can't fault this poster:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5867/imagechn.jpg

― Alba, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:18 (fifteen years ago)

Actually, perhaps he should be surrounded by bees.

― Alba, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

posted about this in the other Gallo thread already, but someone needs to get to work getting Gallo to release his new movie.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

"I would use his (Pete Red Sky´s) crew, his cameras and his actors to pretend to be making a movie, but then I would bring in my camera and sound men, and I would be filming something else...I´d call cut here and action there, then I´d do these improvs and film people while they were on set while they were waiting for the lighting or film rehersal, or film some of the sets they had made."

"There´s 100 hours of film, so the first criteria is to reduce that to 10 hours of what the most beautiful photography was - it could be landscapes, it could be the same take of the same scene, it didn´t matter - whatever I thought was the best 10% of footage. All of it looked pretty good, so when I reduced it to 10% we´re talking about phenomenal footage."

"So now I have 10 hours of film, and the next criteria or filter is that everything has to look good aestethically. So the first two phases are aestethic only, I have no idea after that. There´s sound, but I don´t want to hear it. Now the 10 hours go down to 5 hours. The next level is I turn up the sound - by the way, this movie has 10 minutes of no sound - and the I choose anything I think is 100% honest. I don´t mean documentary, I mean no performance - no acting. So now, I cut that down to 2,5 hours of film."

"3 months go by and I´m looking at these 2,5 hours of footage and I´m not thinking about it as a film whatsoever. So I look at it, and suddenly I realise what´s happening - I see a conflict, a metaphor, a story - not all of it is on the screen but I know what it is. I now know 100% what the film is about, at least to me, I see what the universe is reflecting here out of these 2,5 hours of footage. There´s this lesson and insight about life. And from that, I cut a 77 minute film."

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

nine years pass...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFIAAOSwq1FfqfFg/s-l800.jpg

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:54 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Lol Vincent Gallo is coming out of retirement to act in a Ben Shapiro movie https://t.co/pvMPrpVWUy
— Nando (@nandorvila) December 2, 2021

― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 December 2021 08:25 (four years ago)

He called me once at a former job to rant about a joke item we'd published about him. I swear he went on for at least a half hour and the piece in question was 400 words max. It started out baffling and hilarious, but it eventually turned into a very interesting conversation. I enjoyed speaking to him.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:51 (four years ago)

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