Why are moths so easy to kill?

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I feel a bit bad about killing insects at all, but moths are so easily squashed that I feel like I'm stealing candy from a baby and then shooting it in a barrel.

Why don't they even try to move?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Do most moth species tend to be nocturnal?

Perhaps it's to do with their camouflage -- moving would make them easier for some predators to see.

The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I feel bad for being the wrong type of predator.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I only killed it because I didn't want it to ruin my clothes, but now I think about it, I think it's only that one specied of moth that eats wool and I think they're much smaller than the one I killed. Sorry moth.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they have bad vision, honestly.

caitlin hell (caitxa), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't they at least try to smell my approaching pheremones or something?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I just know that moth is going to come back to haunt me in Hell.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ronaldstory.com/mothma3.jpg

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Mothmen are a different story.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

One day, the Very Ancient Ones Who Made Everything decided that they would create a moth. They gave the moth wings that could beat faster than any other flying creature's wings. They gave the moth a body that was soft and delicate. But they also gave it a special garment to protect its soft body. The only times the moths would take off their protective garment was when they would make love in their well-hidden nests. One day, the chief moth asked the Very Ancient Ones Who Made Everything if he could be granted to the power to fly to the sun. The Ancient Ones agreed, but they set one condition: "The moth must not bring back fire to mankind." The moth told his family and friends where it was going, packed some food, and began to fly to the sun. Instead of being blinded by the sun, the moth could see more clearly than it ever had before. Instead of being burned by the sun, the moth felt a comforting warmth. The moth looked back down to the earth and saw men shivering in the cool of the evening (for it was now night). "I will bring this fire down to them, so that they can warm themselves," said the moth. The moth flew around the sun ten times in one direction and ten times in another direction, then it flew back to the earth.

"I have brought you fire from the sun," said the moth to the men. Here. The men thanked the moth.

The Very Ancient Ones Who Made Everything were very angry. They said to the moth: "Because you have given fire to the men, all mothkind will lose their protective garments. They will be uncontrollably attracted to anything that resembles fire. Some day the descendents of the very men you gave the fire to will crush your kind and think nothing of it."

The moth was very sad. He told the other moths what had happened, and explained why their protective garments had disappeared. His family was sad, and the rest of the moths were angry. He was sentenced to go into exile. The moth went to the Very Ancient Ones and said: "I beg one more thing of you. Since I must go into exile, let me go live alone on the moon." The Very Ancient ones granted him his wish.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

So, RS OTM then.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill Hicks: "What did [moths] do before electricity was invented? Are there a bunch of moths on their way to sun right now? One big one in front flapping away saying 'its gonna be worth it...' "

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 July 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I had completely forgotten about the whole moth incident till I saw this.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

How come your moth didn't move? Whenever moths arrive in my house, they make a beeline for my head! They dive-bomb me and generally make a nuisance of themselves by fluttering at my face.
No idea why this happens but I thought it was 'normal'.
Maybe not.

donna (donna), Thursday, 29 July 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, yeah. But when they are settled on a surface (in this case, a wall) they don't move as you approach, like a fly or butterfly would.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill Hicks: "What did [moths] do before electricity was invented? Are there a bunch of moths on their way to sun right now? One big one in front flapping away saying 'its gonna be worth it...' "

serious point behind this joke: moths navigate using the moon. The moon will always stay in the same position relative to them as a result of parallax, but of course a light bulb doesn't, which is why they just keep going round it.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 29 July 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently only some moths navigate using the moon - the ones that make a spiralling move towards lights. Others will fly directly into lights, and no-ones entirely clear why they do it. Apparently they will fly towards powerful electric lights on the other side of hills, where the light itself can't be the reason, suggesting some kind of electrical reason. But apparently entymologists just don't get it...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

so Im emitting some kind of moth-attracting electrical thing.
great.

donna (donna), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the etymology of the word moth?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ever seen a moth fly into a 24K lamp? That's fucking suicide.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the compression will render it into lumps of pixels

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"THE MAN-MOTH"

Here, above,
cracks in the buldings are filled with battered moonlight.
The whole shadow of Man is only as big as his hat.
It lies at his feet like a circle for a doll to stand on,
and he makes an inverted pin, the point magnetized to the moon.
He does not see the moon; he observes only her vast properties,
feeling the queer light on his hands, neither warm nor cold,
of a temperature impossible to records in thermometers.

But when the Man-Moth
pays his rare, although occasional, visits to the surface,
the moon looks rather different to him. He emerges
from an opening under the edge of one of the sidewalks
and nervously begins to scale the faces of the buildings.
He thinks the moon is a small hole at the top of the sky,
proving the sky quite useless for protection.
He trembles, but must investigate as high as he can climb.

Up the façades,
his shadow dragging like a photographer's cloth behind him
he climbs fearfully, thinking that this time he will manage
to push his small head through that round clean opening
and be forced through, as from a tube, in black scrolls on the light.
(Man, standing below him, has no such illusions.)
But what the Man-Moth fears most he must do, although
he fails, of course, and falls back scared but quite unhurt.

Then he returns
to the pale subways of cement he calls his home. He flits,
he flutters, and cannot get aboard the silent trains
fast enough to suit him. The doors close swiftly.
The Man-Moth always seats himself facing the wrong way
and the train starts at once at its full, terrible speed,
without a shift in gears or a gradation of any sort.
He cannot tell the rate at which he travels backwards.

Each night he must
be carried through artificial tunnels and dream recurrent dreams.
Just as the ties recur beneath his train, these underlie
his rushing brain. He does not dare look out the window,
for the third rail, the unbroken draught of poison,
runs there beside him. He regards it as a disease
he has inherited the susceptibility to. He has to keep
his hands in his pockets, as others must wear mufflers.

If you catch him,
hold up a flashlight to his eye. It's all dark pupil,
an entire night itself, whose haired horizon tightens
as he stares back, and closes up the eye. Then from the lids
one tear, his only possession, like the bee's sting, slips.
Slyly he palms it, and if you're not paying attention
he'll swallow it. However, if you watch, he'll hand it over,
cool as from underground springs and pure enough to drink.

-- ELIZABETH BISHOP

briania (briania), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the compression will render it into lumps of pixels

My bad, 24 kilowatt.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Etymology: Middle English mothe, from Old English moththe; akin to Middle High German motte moth

The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

which explains why they make Mott's Apple Juice from juicy moth husks

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba - you are N. aren't you?

Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not going to help me in moth hell.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the weirdest thread in current ILE rotation, no doubt.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so confused.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird, but important.

Which would you rather do: kill a moth or cop a gobful of highly scented, baseball packed nutsack?

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

I just killed one in the kitchen. They haven't wised up yet.

Alba, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

They're so easy to kill because they know that they are propagating far quicker than you could ever hope to kill them. Enjoy your permanent moth infestation :(

Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:49 (seventeen years ago)

my mother now keeps her jumpers in the freezer in order to keep them safe from the moths. bastards depriving me of pizza.

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

They're easy to kill because they're so fucking stupid.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

It's quite satisfying when you manage to grab one out of the air.

chap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

I once trapped a wasp in a hoover. Happy times.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/589727661_d188c81ed7.jpg?v=0

This COMBAT MOTH totally rules though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

It's quite satisfying when you manage to grab one out of the air.

-- chap,

i was just coming here to post this

deeznuts, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

my cat loves killing moths

bell_labs, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

I was just going to post what AA said.

Cat plus moth equals hours/minutes of entertainment.

suzy, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

Add a laser pointer to that mix and you may as well sell your TV.

Ed, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

::insert squirrel chatter noise here::

suzy, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

last summer my cat and my sister's puppy collaborated in an extended moth take-down. most adorable thing ever.

bell_labs, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

Not for the moths

Tom D., Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

It's quite satisfying when you manage to grab one out of the air.

especially with one hand

braveclub, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

One thing I am not anticipating about the end of this grim winter is the coming deluge of giant, fast, impossible-to-target moths that will plague my apartment until the next grey, dark, dull winter. Sigh. These ones are not easy to kill at all and I don't really understand how they are able to get into my apartment.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

dude, don't let those moths walk all over you

turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

They are stupid and evil and I hate their frantic, random attempts to elude my rolled-up newspaper.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.coastaltown.nildram.co.uk/jim/bombyxin_moth.jpg

HI DERE!

Jarlrmai, Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

how do you post images???

Salmon, get like 3 tattered cats and tell them to hunt the moths.

turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

turtle just click the formatting help thing underneath the posting box it tells you how to post images.

jed_, Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://coolkits.net/G%20vs%20Mothra.jpg

turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

thx Jed - you are good Samaritan

turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Saturday, 7 March 2009 23:56 (seventeen years ago)


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