I saw this thing on ITV the other week, said that if she played with her hair, she's probably keen. She's playin with her hair well regularly, so i reckon i could well be in.

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1. is that true?

2. what is the best bit of wisdom you've ever gained from ITV documentaries/educational programs? (extend to Channel 4/BBC2 if the pool of useful information from ITV proves dry)

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

1. yes - playing with your hair exposes your wrists, and is..subconsciously..an invitation. So I've heard. I don't know if it works for boys, though.

2. I don't remember much - about anything. But there was something on Channel four the other week that said you can tell the state of someone's health via their tongue. I've since been staring at my tongue in the mirror rather a lot. Goddammit, my tongue is HORRIBLE!

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, I was totally gonna type your second part out!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

does that mean you're healthy or unhealthy?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Playing with hair draws attention to an attractive part of your body, ie. hair (obv) and face. On that programme where they reinvent a hopelessly shy/badly dressed person who can't get a date (I forget the programme's name) the woman said that you should guide your lady through a doorway with your hand on her lower back and that is SO TRUE = jelly knees, tingly, flippy floppy tummy!

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

1. One hopes, because her hair looked much better than the other day.
She had her fingers 'round her hair, playin'.

2. The BBC2's "Boys and Girls" was what convinced me to work in urban education. I loved that show.

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this thing on BBC2 the other week that said when women drink the equivlent of 5 pints, their average testonerone levels suddenly leap from their usual level (which was only shown on a pretty simple graph, but looked to be about 10%-20$ of the male one) and end up, within the space of another drink, even higher than the male average.

Wouldn't make a very catchy chorus. But it's good to know.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, I was totally gonna type your second part out!

Is your tongue any nicer than mine?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I do the hand-on-lower-back-through-doors thing all the time.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Depends what hair.

But - yes, as all above. Other things can be noticed from posture, crossing of arms and legs etc. They teach all this crap in communication skills.

2. Time Team taught me that being an archaeologist isn't running throung egyptian tombs, and is actually really shit.

― ___ (___), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the hand-on-back-through-doors thing. I heard on telly that whilst kissing a lady, put your hand on the back of their head, cos they like that. True or bollox?

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh now this song will be in my head for hours

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Your own bollox, presumably...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the woman said that you should guide your lady through a doorway with your hand on her lower back and that is SO TRUE = jelly knees, tingly, flippy floppy tummy!

This would work for me, also. I could point to exactly WHICH bit of the back. Is it one of those 'I'm taking charge, dear' gestures that we shouldn't really like but secretly do?

Also, would it work on a straight bloke, if a woman did it?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

What was that Flirt School programme on C4 a while back? I loved that. When they made them try out what they'd learned by going out on the King's Road and telling people they had nice hair or ice-cream?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Place the hand just above the bum and it works on blokes too.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe Madchen has forgotten the name of Would Like To Meet!

the woman said that you should guide your lady through a doorway with your hand on her lower back and that is SO TRUE = jelly knees, tingly, flippy floppy tummy!

This is only appropriate if you know the woman concerned. Yes?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes. So how come it's not like sexual assault if someone does it when you wouldn't want them to?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"your lady" = rather more than casual acquaintance.

Mark, it's certainly at least inappropriate touching, and could be assault if pursued.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I play with my hair constantly. I'd always assumed that it's a nervous thing but maybe I'm just perpetually gagging for it.

― Tag (Tag), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

well, obv

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I've found myself wondering how that song has affected people over the past few months. Are more people pulling as a result of the song? Is every pub in London full of blokes staring intently at which women are touching their hair? Are particularly coquettish girls doing it deliberately? Has anything changed?

About three weeks ago I noticed a girl playing with her hair constantly and it completely threw me, I had to disappear to the bar to regain my composure.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone done that thing of working out when a woman is at the most fertile point in her menstrual cycle and thus most sexually receptive?

(I learned about this from a Streets outtake)

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

having just been out on the tube and around oxford street, where lots of women can be seen playing with their hair, this news makes me extremely frustrated. i hate summer time and all the clothes it makes women wear.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i notice girls playing with their hair more. i think it's more down to feeling v self-conscious/nervous/awkward/unconfident somehow more than a suggestion of sexual interest (he says, looking down at his feet and playing with his hair...)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"I saw this thing on The Science Channel the other week / about how if a gurl is at a certain point in her menstrual cycle she's probably clean / she's ovulating well regularly / so I reckon I could well be in."

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this thing on Bravo the other week, said that if she puts her hands down your pants, she's probably keen.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, you went through a phase a couple of months back of going "look! She's playing with her hair!" whenever I so much as talked to a woman. Regardless as to whether or not she WAS playing with her hair ;)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That's what you get for being Datey Datington.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"I saw this thing on TVX the other week/said if she kneels in front of your knob with her mouth open when you're about to come she's probably keen."

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this thing on ITV the other week. That said 'this is the new video from Keane'..

that's right, it was CD:UK!

(joke never gets old...or funny)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Is your tongue any nicer than mine?
I check every time the prog is on & yes, it is perfect!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

you should guide your lady through a doorway with your hand on her lower back and that is SO TRUE = jelly knees, tingly, flippy floppy tummy!

Holy shit, I do that to all my female friends. I don't know why this is.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Pussy teaser.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw this thing on channel 5 the other week, said that if she played with her pussy while sliding a condom on your dick, she's probably keen. She's playin with her pussy well regularly, so i reckon i could well be in.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, OK, OK. I'm sorry I started it.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, mine was a bit crass/obvious.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Good grief, three people have italicized what I said. (this has made my knees wobbly)

Mark - I said lower back, not bumcheeks.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I check every time the prog is on & yes, it is perfect!

Really? I'm jealous. Add 'a perfect tongue' to the list of things I never knew I wanted until I knew I wanted them.

Mine is horrible, yellow-ish, and with holes in it. That can't be good, can it?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

mine has a tiny ulcer-type thing on it. my girlfriend hasnt noticed though so maybe it is the secret to my oral success.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking you two should eat some millet and pumpkin seeds.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen, I would love to guide you through a door.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

madchen, i would build you a new door and woodstain/varnish or paint it for you.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen, I would build you a house.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen, I would build you a block of flats, but you would be the only one living there. i wouldnt want you to be harassed or bothered by your annoying neighbours.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen, I would shoot an air rifle through your window.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of uniform are you wearing, Madchen?

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Madchen, I would knit or sew you a brand new uniform.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hobart - I think it's very bad news for you! ;-)
Also, zinc & pumpkin seeds are good fro increasing sex drive!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

according to Nova (american show on PBS may not be avail in the UK) there is a tree in northern California that is the oldest living organism on the earth. it is - apparently - 5000 years old and by studying the rings of the tree they can determine what the weather/atmosphere was like 1000/2000/3000 and on up years ago... also - and this is the bit that particularly intrigued - it has nothing in its DNA that tells it to die. This is unlike all other living things which do have the death switch which comes on eventually.

And my tongue is great - though i'd willingly switch it for a tongue that was not great if i could also lose the bits of my DNA that want to kill me.

― Anthony (Plato Guy), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

How do they count the rings without cutting it down?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Core sample imnit.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

there are other reasons for girls playing with their hair, don't forget. my friends and i have problems because we all love lip gloss/balm and hair gets stuck to lips when it's windy or we're dancing, and then you have to sort it out. which isn't flirting, it's practical.

but hair tossing, like in charlie's angels ('flip your goddamned hair'), is a pretty clear sign of flirting.

also, i'm a big fan of the hand on the small of the back thing. a few years ago, i was on a date at a gig with a guy i was ambivalent about, and he did that as we went through the crowd, and it was great! i even agreed to be his valentine! (it also helped that he brought me not only flowers but a flowering plant, and agreed to play tekken with me even though he didn't like video games. these are the ways to my heart)

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Tekken. How romantic.

(I'm being serious, by the way.)

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, this thread scares me.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

madchen can tell if people are going to get cancer by looking at them. i don't know where she learned this, but it's a neat trick.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

well, tekken might not be romantic, but it was the fact that he made an effort to try something new just because i loved it, which i thought was so cool...

mazan is SO much more romantic. i should see if jim has pictures of me playing last week, the settings were all messed up and set for munchkins, so i had to crouch down while i was playing. fun times for all...

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Serious question in videogame date etiquette - which is the most romantic?

1. Winning
2. Being justly thrashed by your date
3. Going easy and letting your date win

I'm kind of assuming #2 here.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

3. Going easy and letting your date win

good question, matt!

do not EVER let your date win intentionally. (well, i can only speak for myself, but i'm happy to generalise) i went through a phase my first couple years at uni where i lived near a fantastic arcade, and spent a lot of time with street fighter. i went on a date with someone who basically implied that he would 'go easy on me.' which was such a patronising thing to say! just because i'm a girl! so i thrashed him, and didn't go out with him anymore.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"She said she was the worst pool player under the sun, the blokes go easy so she always won"

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Thankfully I am so k-lame at EVERYTHING COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD that most girls could beat me anyway and therefore this will never prove a problem. Yay!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever you do, don't throw your controller across the room in frustration. I learned from 'Average Joe' that this is not a hit with the ladies (it was a golf club, but I assume the same principle applies).

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm feeling you Matt. The only competitive thing I'm good at is Trivial pursuit. No one ever wants to play, though.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

If it is a football game - is taunting them at 0-0 and then scoring the winner, in the 89th minute, with your keeper....bad?

― ___ (___), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

We play all the time. And Scrabble. We're soon having a Knoxville Band Double Elimination Scrabble Tourney in which everyone will be pwn3d!1 Ok, back to normal thread topic.

xpost

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Colette are you coming to Namco Station tomorrow night? I look forward to you kicking my arse at Soul Caliber 4 or whatever the cool kids are playing now.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

If I was playing a video game on a date I'd just play as best I could and let the best player win - anything less is disrespectful.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Would you guide your lady through the game with your hand on her lower back?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

according to Nova (american show on PBS may not be avail in the UK) there is a tree in northern California that is the oldest living organism on the earth.

They named it Methesula, right? I was just talking about this with someone the other day.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The closer to ovulation a woman is, the more revealing clothing she'll wear when going out. Thanks Desmond Morris!!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Would you guide your lady through the game with your hand on her lower back?
If it was a stand-up arcade game which I could play one-handed, then of course!

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I really love this thread, by the way. I've had that song in my head all morning. On the tram on the way to work, this girl a few seats away and I kept giving each other looks, and she was playing with her hair almost nonstop! Awesome, and topical.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

has this thread also kind of turned into the one where we plan the trip to namco station?

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing I don't understand -- why do ladies need guiding through doorways???

― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

did you get her email to send her a link to this thread, andrew?

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing I don't understand -- why do ladies need guiding through doorways???

Oh reason not the need!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

cos ladies are too busy playing with their hair to navigate their way through, steve.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-but what was the show on ITV? What week was it on? I must know.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

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