And so once again I find myself turning to those who are in the know to ask: How do I know what I'm supposed to be being taxed? And am I allowed a rebate?
I earn a fairly meagre wage (twelveK a year) and get paid 1K a month, just under £200 of which goes towards student loan, national insurance and normal tax. Tonight I am starting a second job in order to stay afloat. You'd think that one office job would be enough but no I have to give up my Friday and Saturday night in order to keep going. I don't even live in my own accomodation or drive a car.
So you see, if I'm paying too much tax I'd like to know now. If someone who understands these things could kindly explain it to me or help me out in some way, that would be grand! :-)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't remember exactly what it is, but there's a code on your payslip which should be telling you what rate you are being charged at - if it says "Week One" or "Emergency Tax" (or whatever the codes for those are) then you are paying too much.
I did actually sit down and work it out a few months ago (with the help of a nice man from the tax office). You get a certain amount of pay for FREE, then you get a low rate on the next bit, then you have to pay full tax on the rest. Yes, it's confusing. But I made an excel spreadsheet to figure it all out.
― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)
I've managed to get a rebate before but it's taken tremendous lengths and I don't want getting taxed more than I have to for working a second job.
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Have a look here: http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/pdfs/p3_2003.pdf for a guide to tax codes. They may have a calculator to help you work out whether you're on the right code of not, or at least will tell you how to work it out yourself.
― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)
More than one job
If you have more than one job, you will get a separate PAYE code for each job in which your earnings are taxed under PAYE, and normally a separate notice of coding for each job. All the reliefs and allowances you are entitled to will normally be included in the tax code for your main job. This means that all your earnings from the second job may be taxed. If so, the tax code you are given for the second job will be:-
BR: if you are being taxed at the basic rate of tax; or
DO: if you are being taxed at a higher rate of tax.
If the income earned from the second job takes you into the higher rate of tax, all the earnings from the second job will be taxed at the higher rate. If you are in this situation you may find that your tax bill will need adjusting at the end of the tax year.
(http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/tax/pay_as_you_earn_common_problems.htm)
I think you need to talk to that nice man's daughter again.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)
you're right, BR is what employers sometime's stick you on when you start, and it presumes that you've got another job and doesn't give you a personal allowance, which is what happened to me.
Have you spoken to your HR unit? I didn't actually notice, but got a letter from payroll telling me about it (it only took them three years) , and I didn't need to fill in any forms, I just sent a letter to the tax man along with my P60s.
― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, Charlie, you earn pretty much the same as me, wtf are you doing with it that you can't afford to live with yr parents?!
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost you're on emergency too Nick!
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Look on the bright side - anyone on emergency tax almost certainly has a windfall coming to them! (x-post obv)
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)
It cost me around £8. That's my wages for working two hours in tonight's evening shift.
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)
X-post. You track your spending? Fucking hell. I don't even open my bank statements - just check my balance at the TM when I take cash out. I paid off my overdraft with a graduate loan, which also wiped out my credit cards.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
How many times do I have to tell people? READ YOUR BANK STATEMENT. DO NOT RELY ON ATM BALANCES. You don't know the number of people I know who have got into trouble this way.
I have an Excel spreadsheet with my budget on it, but I only been sticking to it very loosely. I'm usually quite good with money, but you know, trips to Cambridge, impulse punting, these things are important!
― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― marianna, Friday, 30 July 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyhoo, you can work out what you're paying by adding the income tax and national insurance bits and calculating that as a percentage of monthly gross. 22% is normal for £2-£30ishK/year.
Damn that was annoying for a while.
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Yes it is..
regardsir3ne
-----Original Message-----From: M1LLER, H3nry Sent: 30 July 2004 14:42To: Payroll UKSubject:
Hi,
My tax code is 474L1 -- is this the emergency code?
H3nry M1ller
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Didn't buy me a point though did he, the cunt.
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost gah what a cockfarmer
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)
You should have just asked him to buy you a pint!
― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, and messily murder all payroll personnel nationwide kthxbye
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Tip 1: Never EVAH throw away any of your payslips, even if they're from that ice cream job you did 10 years ago (I served Chris Rea, don'tcha know). Same goes for Ps 45 and 60.
Tip 2: Talk to someone nice at Inland Revenue and explain the situation to them - feign (or admit) complete stupidity and ignorance. It's likely they'll ask you to send in photocopies of all your payslips since the previous financial year (and perhaps before) and they'll sort it all out. Make sure you buy them a pint, mind.
Tip 3: The codes - the first 3 digits denote the amount of your wages you get before being taxed, i.e. "483L" says I can earn £4830 before the taxman cometh. The "L", I believe stands for your local tax office - mine is Lothian in Scotland. Despite the fact I live in Walthamstow.
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Nope, the rate is the same from £2-30K. Revenue info hurrah
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
If you are paid £12,000 a year and have no other income:
The first £4740 is tax free.
The next £2020 is taxed at 10% (£202)
The remaining £5240 is taxed at 22% (£1153)
Therefore you should be receiving £10,645 after tax.
HOWEVER - National insurance is on top of that - it's roughly 9% on your gross salary - i.e. about £1080
So your total take-home pay should be roughly £9,565, which equates to £796 a month.
Does that make sense?
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.refundsdirect.co.uk/index.html
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)