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OK, so the Olympic torch is in Thessaly and will be winding its way around Greece for the next fortnight and then GO GO GO! Are you as excited about the Olympics as me? What are you most looking forward to? What successes do you predict for your nation?

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Pete has been writing a few anti-olympics rants on freaky trigger :-(

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Miserable Pete.

I am particularly looking forward to the fletics and rowing, although I don't think GB&NI will do particularly well in either this year. Hoping and praying that Paula Radcliffe finally gets her gold and that something stupid like a funny tummy doesn't cock it up for her (this would be far worse than losing because she just wasn't as fast as whoever beat her, I think). I'm also looking forward to watching things I wouldn't usually get to see, like the high dive.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Fencing! It's the Curling of the summer!

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm almost tempting to get cable once again to see all this, goddammit. *broods*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Tempting? TEMPTED.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm buying a set top box tomorrow. I'm annoyed that I didn't have it for the Tour de France and Euro 2004. I'm not missing out on any Olympic action if I can help it.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned - NBC covers it.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, but my TV isn't even hooked up to anything now and I have no idea where the antenna for it is. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I am looking forward to swimming, track & field, gymnastics. Less so team sports but I am excited for basketball now that Melo has guaranteed a USA victory.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

gymnastics and fencing seconded.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I have the same problem as Ned. fencing, futball, equestrian, judo.
Am I the only one who looks forward to the filler spots about "the sights of Greece" and the family life of the poor farmer turned Greco Roman wrestler from Belarus? I still remember the ones on Gaudi from the Barcelona games.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

NBC covers it.

Where I'm crashing, the cable's out, so the TV doesn't work at all. (Apparently, reception's shite without it.) The lineup looks so good, actually started getting excited. Damn. Well, there's always web highlights.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not looking forward to the dramatic wordiness of Bob Costas. Sports are dramatic enough, thank you.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they have cricket in the olympics now? That'd be cool, it's in the trilogy of things that matter to me.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i like watching gymnasts fall off the balance beam

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

or right slap bang in the middle of the beam, ouch.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

if they are male, though I guess it's painful for both genders.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

True, but at least our tender spot isn't quite so exposed.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

except not the chinese gymnastics because you know if they fuck up, the government will banish their families back to the rice paddies.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The mens 100m last night at Crystal Palace had me worried. I always hope we'll be able to put in a challenge in the sprints but with the caribbean countries coming through really strong I don't think we're going to get any finalists and the 4x100 isn't looking too hot either.

The women's pole vault is an interesting one at the moment - new sport, so plenty of opportunity for world records (and cash earning). Like Bubka a few years ago, they could arrange to beat the record by a centimetre at every grand prix and bag fifty grand for each. I doubt they'll go for a record at the Olympics though, unless it goes to the wire for the gold medal (which is a possibility, after last night's competition).

What else? Shame we didn't get to see Holmes vs. Mutola - I guess that was pre-arranged though. I fancy Holmes for a win in the 1500 in Athens, but not sure about the 800.

Madchen (Madchen), Saturday, 31 July 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

If she goes for both, that is.

Madchen (Madchen), Saturday, 31 July 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

athletes get cash prizes for breaking a world record??

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Shot-put. I can't wait to gawk at shot-putters. When else do you ever get to see them?

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.usatf.org/events/2004/OlympicTrials-TF/photos/day2/mSPF/Nelson_Adam1H-USAOT04.jpg

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

god the olympics is rubbish.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The problem with just watching it on NBC broadcast channels is that you'll get two weeks of gymnastics and stories about the athlete's sick sisters, mothers, dogs, whatever. On the cable channels you'll at least get to see some sports.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if people will bittorrent the olympics?

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

If any of you live close to the Canadian border and get the CBC, you'll likely want to watch their coverage because they show almost everything live without any of this "wait for primetime and have to sit through two hours of puff pieces in order to catch twenty minutes of competition" bullshit.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 1 August 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

looking forward to... basketball mainly, i think. though i'll be watching some ''ack and field also, especially if i'm watching the telly with my pa.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

When I am king you will be first against the wall

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

my cousin is a fairly good dressage rider, practices at spruce meadows and everything, its really quite an amazing thing to watch, pure athleticism.

anthony, Sunday, 1 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fihockey.org/vsite/vimagesite/images/jpg/0,11410,1181-0-17602-0-custom56338,00.jpg

The chap in the middle here, D4nny H411 was in my class at school and I harboured an unrequited crush on him for a while. This will be his 3rd Olympics.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It has started! Ladies' football!

http://www.athens2004.com/en/resultsFootball/results?day=0&rsc=FB0000000

Rejoice! Rejoice!

I heard it on Five Live! I only switched over because I'm sick of the sodding new Thrills record!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Why didn't I think of this! Radio coverage of the Olympics! Hell, worked for me for Euro 2004. I'm set for the next two weeks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad it's on the radio - for Sydney, they had all kinds of rights problems which meant that 5 Live didn't broadcast at all while the games were on.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night I watched the telly and it was a programme about the Olynmpics for animals. It was good.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! Was it like this?

ihttp://www.worth1000.com/entries/57500/57984eJli_w.jpg

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It was like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/3558212.stm

Obviously we all prefer Laff-a-Lympics, but still.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i heart the 'lympics so much...

the shot putt is being held two days before the rest of the athletics starts IN THE PLACE WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE THE ANCIENT GAMES (which is odd as shot putt wasn't even *in* the ancient games, surely discus would've been more appropriate).

i'm intending to have NO LIFE AT ALL for the next fortnight :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"next fortnight"

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"next fortnight" = weird ilx slang for "next three weeks?" I thought that about the shot putt and discus too.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, the Korean women are pwning the archery.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the archery's started too? i thought it was just the footie?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

This is very handy: http://www.athens2004.com/en/results/results

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, there's my tmfd links sorted out for the next three weeks :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Will be watching with interest to see who the Greeks choose to replace (alleged) Mr Cheating Scum as flamelighter...

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 13 August 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, cauldronlighter.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 13 August 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This is going to be the funniest Olympics ever, everyone is on drugs as usual but this time round the authorities are actually going to do something about it - the drugs cheat tally will probably rally the medals table! It's even started before the games with these two Greek runners, who everyone's known for years were on drugs, engineering a road accident to get out of drugs test!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, my immediate thought was that the motorbike accident sounded more like an 'accident'.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 13 August 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

To most of us Greece is inseperable from our identity as Greek cypriots. Some view it as the mother country, some as the protector of our culture. My parents (one born here, one not) see Cyprus as geographically distinct but spiritually very close to Greece.
After all the main reason why Cyprus is not a Greek island is because of its history of being conquered and owned by other powers.
I live in a cypriot area of north london and every cypriot I know
celebrated Greece's victory in EURO 2004 as THEIR victory.
However I completely understand Mark's point; I get pissed off when people casually assume there is no difference between being a cypriot and being a Greek as there are a good many.

For the purposes of sport and some other nationalistic stuff most cypriots are happy to be Greeks though! I think it's obvious why....

For the record I HATE all the rivalry between cypriot greeks and turks. The kind of stuff our parents and grandparents make us sick with.

cypriot poster, Friday, 27 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

An astonishing fight has seen Amir Khan into the lightweight final. Two points down going into the third, ended up winning by 14. Blinding boxing.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

No wonder Paula Radcliffe's head lops about like that. You try running with no backbone.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Paula Radcliffe: anybody else read this conspiracy?

"Colleague of mine is an ex-athlete of pretty high standard (30-40yrs ago) and also a pharmaceutical expert. He is absolutely convinced that Paula Radcliffe is on drugs. Firstly, from being an also-ran, she suddenly became the best in the world by a distance at the 10k and marathon. Not just incremental improvements either. And at her age - she was 28 when it happened - you simply don’t improve, let alone to the extent that she did. And to be fair it is difficult to comprehend that by doing a couple of things differently in training you can improve that much - she was already a full time athlete. His argument is further fuelled by performance - or non-performance - at the last 2 major championships. Last summer she was "injured" and couldn’t race in the worlds. But how long did the injury last? Not that long - within 2 or 3 weeks she was back running and winning on the circuit. Avoiding the testers? And then the Olympics. With the crackdown she couldn’t take any drugs - he thinks EPO was the most effective for long distance runners, without real substitutes - so stopped in the run up. Hoped that her fitness levels were high enough that she could still win it without. But by coming off EPO for a period her body was probably producing LESS red blood cells than pre-EPO and left her in that mess. Both physically and mentally. Im sure there are other possible explanations. However, the argument that the pressure got to her too much? Not sure about that. Long distance running is not the same as sprinter, where you need to be relaxed. There are no technical demands. All that can go wrong really are tactics. And on the weather side? Perhaps. But she trains in hot climes and at altitude most of the year. Pre-athens she was training in south of spain, and it gets pretty damn hot down there in the summer. But then, I argued, she was so vociferously anti-drugs before. But then, look at how much it is worth: it isnt just the olympic title. She now gets hundreds of thousands of pounds just for running in a marathon. And all the sponsorship deals and other commercial activities. Think about it. Before that she was a moderately successful woman who couldn’t ever win the big ones. Dedicating her whole life to her sport, which was far from the most glamorous events, she was hardly going to be raking it in. and at 27-28 she didn’t have that much time left to be competitive. Motivation is there alright. And she hasn’t really been that vocal over the last couple of years about drugs in sport… I'm still not sure and am sitting on the fence a bit. But he has a powerful argument."

Funny, just after I read it today I predicted to someone that if it was true there was no way she'd finish tonight...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I would lose a little faith if someone like paula is winning by drugs.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a naïve romantic though. : /

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It makes some sense theoretically. I've always felt the buzz around Paula was like "look! She's winning things as if she's on drugs, without taking drugs! Rumours you say? No no look how anti-drugs she is"

Bumfluff, Friday, 27 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Chinese gold medals in track and field? Beijing 2008 will be one helluva place to be.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oooh so exciting that the chinese hurdler won! now pretty much every channel here in china is showing the race over and over again.

the dude's slightly cocky. right after he won, he said sth to the effect of nobody thought a chinese could win on the track, well, ive shown'em. and then he did a finger snap-point at the camera thing. then broke down in tears.

so pleased for him.

may, Saturday, 28 August 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine a lot of the Greek supporters boufght their tickets well in advance in the expectation of seeing Mr Kenderis (?) do his stuff. So they are ever likely to be pissed off. I have to say that the Greeks have, on the whole, been a credit to Greece, the drug scanadals seem to have been relegated to near-irrelevance over the weeks. This, I think, is a good thing, especially when you consider that there was a lot more written about drugs than sport in the run-up to the Olympics.

However, I didn't see them protesting. Every country has its fair share of mardy arses.

The football final was shit this morning. Kily Gonzalez obviously has his mind on Crystal Palace.

I liked the Chinese winner of the 10,000m. She spent the whole race running like Mr Bean until the last spurt where she suddenly gained use of her arms.

Ireland, I think, won gold in show jumping. Maybe all those officials are stable lads.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ireland did win the show jumping. Craig Doyle therefore finally had something he could talk about with some authority on the round-up show last night (how shite Ireland generally have been at winning stuff at the Olympics recently with the exception of drug-cheat swimmers).

Him and Claire Balding have no rapport at all. Who thought they would be a good idea in the studio together - a sarky Irishman and a posh bird with no sense of humour?

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the chinese 10,000m runner looked variously like she was trying to i. run life into her arms, ii. catch up with the group in front to tell them something iii. gain her balance.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

iv. shake-off the dead arms her teammate gave her, on the starting line, for speaking under a 'jinx double jinx shakespeare.'

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i've decided she's an android

(this may be bitterness caused by her preventing a sweep by the ethiops)

H (Heruy), Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Kelly!

Well done Hicham!

Not a bad hour for the fans' favourites there.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot to watch!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I told you we should have met in the pub to watch it. I'm sure it may get repeated once or twice. Maybe.

She's getting her medal NOW! On BBC1

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK!! Britain get gold in the men's 4x100! USA bugger up the baton changing again!

I only turned on by accident.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Bring on the women's 4x400.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like how Hazel Irvine is blatantly telling people who to vote for in the BBC Sports Personality of the Year. I mean, it's a total shoe-in for Kelly Holmes, and probably Amir Khan for the Young Personality one since Wayne Rooney fucked that one up, but I think singling out the 4x100m boys is a bit unfair.

We were talking about this in the pub last night and Madchen said it would be the whole GB Olympics team that won team of the year. That sounds about right, but Hazel seems to be promoting a whole BBC agenda for the relay boys.

Everyone's forgotten about Matthew Pinsent and the rowers. It was only last weekend, the man is only one medal behind Steve Redgrave and NO-ONE REMEMBERS because it's all Paula Bloody Radcliffe. Bah.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 29 August 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Kindelan superb, the consummate boxer. It was always a big ask, but Khan acquitted himself pretty fully. Won one round and drew another against a guy unbeaten in 5 years. Not a bad showing.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Sunday, 29 August 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone see that marathon shocker!! i was shocked, and i'm hard to shock. i'm talking about the crazy dood who pushed the Brasilian dood off of the road and into the crowd. Can't wait to find out what his story is. And the Brasilian dood was in the lead! That ain't fair.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5859225/

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

So, when do we get the full on body intrusive probe of the madman who attacked the Brazilian marathon runner!!!!!!!

All thoughts of support for others collapsed after that happened, my Italian friend I was watching with is distraught after the victory as he feels the victory has been tainted.

Opinions... any insights as to the freak....etc....

H (Heruy), Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, first of all, is it right to call him a "madman" or "deranged", as I saw in several news reports? B/c so far the only evidence I have so far leads me to believe that he's merely an uncommonly exceptional asshole.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

or a plant!!!!

H (Heruy), Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

He had a message on his back that said something about israel.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 29 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like the feller that ran on the track at the British Grand Prix a couple of years ago...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 29 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

he is that same person.

I watched that race and that Brazilian was being caught - the Italian judged it well - but still, its got to be looked at.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Police identified him as Cornelius Horan, a defrocked Irish priest. In July 2003, Horan, in a costume similar to the one he wore Sunday, ran onto the track at the British Grand Prix in the middle of the race and stayed there for more than 20 seconds, forcing racers to swerve around him. He was carrying a sign that said, “read the Bible — the Bible is always right.”

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I swear I saw walter matthau at the track last night.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

who saw the closing ceremonies? The Gloria Estefan-looking greek chick was "singing" words to Dick Dale's "Pulp Fiction Theme" while some dude was hammering it out on a golden strat...

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Monday, 30 August 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I want one of those polo shirts that people (judges? officials?) were wearing. White with one blue sleeve and one orange sleeve.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The closing ceremonies really sucked moose ass (except for the Beijing preview part).

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: yikes those shirts are going for $200 on ebay!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: Zhang Yimou directed the Beijing preview part.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I wz thinking along the 'I bet tom does slsk all the greek pop we've heard tonight'- type lines.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm obsessed with this shirt!
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Volunteers_photos/Volunteers_Uniforms/Uniform2_f.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

So, is Kelly Holmes a lesbian or not?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, i must say, the over-use of the phrase "long-term training partner" and "mysterious split" in relation to ms holmes and ms mutola had got me thinking...

...also that closing ceremony was SHIT and i love opening/closing ceremonies...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I know it's finished now but, who was that young Asian guy who co-presented some of the coverage because he was ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DIRE! Talk about a rabbit in the headlights, he couldn't finish a single sentence without stummbling over his (autocue) lines and looked shit-scared constantly.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I was very mad about the syntax neologism all the announcers kept affecting: "This Games" My
rant
on the subject.

EComplex (EComplex), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Coyne OTM. That guy = huge DUD. Claire Balding was the star, in the end.

Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

We got an Official Olympics Postcard yesterday from one of our lecturers who is also a commentator for Eurosport. The postmark is embossed in gold!

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a rockumentary on telly tonight about the wheelchair basketball team, in case anyone's interested.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Dazza Campbell is taking the BBC to court for calling him a tart. The tart.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Paralympics start next week.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Want to take a guess at the percentage of seats that'll be filled?

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

They should do the Paralympics first.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Wheelchairs would have a problem in a half-built stadium though, innit?

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)


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