Bill Maher - classic!

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Bill Maher deserves his own thread (besides that old thread after he got in trouble for calling the 9/11 terrorists courageous).

Last night, he was brilliant.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago) link

He got down on his hands and knees and begged Nader not to run.

He's willing to change his mind and take criticism. He tries to play fair; shushes the audience when they are not being fair to a guest. He gets great guests, like the former PM of Canada.

I love Bill Maher! I used to think he was annoying, but I've come 'round.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

Maher has been an outspoken advocate of several political positions, but no notable overall ideology. Although he is a self-described libertarian, he has often been accused of being a liberal (particularly given his support of the public school system and government-sponsored environmental projects) and occasionally a conservative (he supports the death penalty). Some of his other stances, including privatizing social security and ending the War on Drugs, are distinctively libertarian. He is also outspoken about his pro-choice stance on abortion.

hurray for those who don't fall neatly into one camp -- it shows they think for themselves.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link

You forgot to mention that Ralph Nader was sitting right in front of him when Maher and Michael Moore begged Ralph not to run.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

He's dating Thora Birch - ew ew ew.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

She might qualify as a thinking man's sex kitten. Though she does look about 12.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

he will eat her alive

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

for a sec I thought he was wearing a fanny pack

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

O'reilly's mirror image, only more arrogant.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

He's dating Thora Birch - ew ew ew.

the HELL?

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

are you SHITTING me?

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know the arabs are on about, jews are great!

sexyDancer, Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

hurray for those who don't fall neatly into one camp -- it shows they think for themselves.

OTM. I don't agree with Maher on a lot of things and he is often obnoxious as hell (I think it comes with the job description), but non-prepackaged sets of opinions are k-classic.

mouse (mouse), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

I read that over on Fametracker, so it could be made up. But if not, ew ew ew.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

When emo girls love gristle.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

This is a woman who did a low-key "Wicked Game" homage with Fred Durst.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

let your imagination run wild with that one

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.thoranews.com/LimpThree.JPG

nobody loves no one

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

I *do* get creeped out when I try to imagine her with Bill Maher.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

So who of you saw his show last night? All these conservatives are just dying for a chance to tell Michael Moore a thing or two -- without actually seeing the movie.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

let your imagination run wild with that one

Get thee behind me, Satan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

the first panel of that Thora/Fred triptych is godly

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

If only because I imagine her grabbing that face fuzz and pulling down, hard.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

I just like how it looks like a silhouette profile

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

Zing!

robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 31 July 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha, this pic bears posting:
http://theonion.com/images/392/article2871.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 31 July 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

huh? i thought the hipoisie CW on maher was that he was a crypto-fascist hack, ie his whole schtick is making a very average american political position sound angry and 'edgy' and somehow under attack.

g--ff (gcannon), Saturday, 31 July 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

Is that photo above the same one from the fake onion story a couple weeks back? It probably should be acknowledged that the photo isn't real. Although it's probably not impossible to find a real Maher photo in which he's seen with some kind of trophy babe. To his credit, he's unapologetic about his aversion to marriage/family and his desire to date sexy young girls.

herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

"to his credit"

Well, that's one way of looking at it.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

I dgi Maher as well though Politcally Correct had the annoying element of seeing celebrities opine in vain attempts to appear smart. His HBO show is totally classic. He criticizes the pundits and media like Jon Stewart but Maher also articulates a desire for politically change in a way Stewart safely avoides.

herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

x post
It might not be how a lot of us would prefer to live but he's hurting no one.

herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

He's hurting my eyes.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

For me it's more a queasy feeling.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

Nice to see that it's okay to belittle a man because of his looks.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

It's not the looks, m'friend, more the concept.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

we don't get 'politically incorrect' here but whenever i've seen him being interviewed etc i've not liked him at all.

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

sorry, was referring to the post above yours. xpost

oops (Oops), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

bill maher is unbearable

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

I have never heard of him.

Of course, I like John Maher; and also Fred Maher's drumming on Lloyd Cole's early solo work - magnificent.

the bellefox, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

Poor self-parody. C-

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

xpost

I used to think that he was unbearable -- but get past his smirk and he has some intelligent things to say.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

how does one "get past" a smirk so broad?

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

again

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/d/dccab.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

He and Politically Incorrect were interesting and fun to watch right up until Monica. Then the show went to hell and his schtick got more predictable.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

the Republican hooker photo should be Maher with Ann Coulter

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

I was just having an argument about this on IM with a fellow ILMer, and was considering starting a thread.

Since no one has really responded to Maria D's question, I'll go ahead and agree- it was exciting to see Michael Moore butt heads with protofascist David Dreier, and to Maher there representing Common Sense, backing up more, and shutting up Dreier.

Also exciting was proving how ridiculous Nader's stance is, though the former PM of Canada made the point stronger than the comedians (they are comedians, both Moore and Maher, remember).


hurray for those who don't fall neatly into one camp -- it shows they think for themselves.

-- Maria D. (maria...), July 31st, 2004 4:15 PM. (later)

Thinking for yourself = classic; Pro death penalty = unthinking acceptance of american cultural values (but that's my opinion)


huh? i thought the hipoisie CW on maher was that he was a crypto-fascist hack, ie his whole schtick is making a very average american political position sound angry and 'edgy' and somehow under attack.
-- g--ff (gffcnn...), July 31st, 2004 8:41 PM

If only the average american political position was an eagerness to legalize marijuana, and acknowledgement that the terrorists are 'courageous' if nothing else. Crypto-fascist? That's Brit Hume, not Bill Maher.

xpost Ann Coulter - I had a theory that he was sleeping with her- why else would he even listen to her babble?

Richard K (Richard K), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

can someone tell me what a crypto-fascist is?

common_person (common_person), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

"crypto," meaning "hidden," as used in the term "crypto fascist" (Gore Vidal called William F. Buckley this)

thanks google

common_person (common_person), Monday, 2 August 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link

No, people are always lying when they say this. Don't believe them. Always assume that someone is operating under the most hateful, evil thought processes possible. Do not let them try to "get away with one". Stick up for yourself and don't let them diffuse the situation. People are never joking. Everything is serious, and you should live your life constantly questioning the face-value of what people, esp your friends, tell you.

-- oops (don'temailmenicelad...), July 28th, 2004.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

Maher is such a bad advert for smoking weed

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 08:08 (eight months ago) link

Lmao

I could honestly watch this 500 times pic.twitter.com/Yxzn8d2Al8

— america's lounge singer (@KrangTNelson) May 14, 2024

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:20 (eight months ago) link

I like that Burr didn’t come on with a political agenda or even a specific criticism. He’s just like “You’re dumb and full of shit.”

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:42 (eight months ago) link

Watched this whole thing and decided I don't really like Burr either, but Bill Maher is really the smuggest most insufferable prick.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 19:00 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

over the past week or so, i watched or at least skipped across most of the episodes of politically incorrect that are preserved on the internet archive. i suppose i expected, despite having watched it at the time, to be surprised by its level of discourse, to get sad pleasure out of its contrast with the stupidity of the present, but it feels more contemporary in its way than most things of its time. the bookers leaned on entrepreneurial conservative commentators whose business models proved successful (some individuals disappeared, of course, like debbie schlussel). authors promoting books, fringe pundits, celebrity academics, usually a source of some depth on chat programs, are underrepresented. discussion is derailed by grandstanding, then a retreat behind jibes to stimulate the audience whooping. bill maher comes across as uninformed and cruel. the unexpected list of guests on a night—dmx and larry hagman, kellyanne conway and scott thompson, picabo street and david duke, naomi wolf and bob backlund...—was part of the appeal, but there's not much payoff. the show was bad. there's no need to say that. it's been off the air for more than two decades.

i watched so many episodes because i had a memory of the show that i would like to confirm is genuine. i will describe it here, as i remember it, in case you know what i mean, in case obsessive politically incorrect archivers are reading this: a woman seated to bill maher's right interrupts the show to talk about madame bovary. the woman says with painful earnestness how much we can learn from great literature. there is respectful silence as she speaks. bill maher offers polite agreement, dropping any cruelty. she was an east asian woman with short hair, i want to say, speaking in her second language, but she might also have been eastern european. this might be a false memory.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Thursday, 28 November 2024 14:40 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

"We Saw You From Across the Bar and Really Dig Your Vibe..."

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:00 (four days ago) link

AOC was on the other day.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:01 (four days ago) link

Bill Maher is really the smuggest most insufferable prick

co-sign to infinity, his only remote competition in the smug/insufferable sweepstakes is "billionaire entrepreneur" Vivek Ramaswamy

mom jeans VS yacht rock (m coleman), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:09 (four days ago) link

i swear he has ringers in the audience of his show. i KNOW he does. nobody laughs like some of the people in his crowd. its so phony. someone investigate that. he tells his new rules non-jokes and it sounds like people are going to have to go to the hospital they are laughing so loud!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dskdjJJ7bnQ

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 14:20 (four days ago) link

I watched an episode recently for the first time in many years and that struck me too, it felt like Morton Downey Jr vibes, just massive hooting and cheering at every tepid zinger

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:27 (four days ago) link

maybe he makes his writing staff go out there and do it and they all say "oh he wants fake laughter does he..."

he must have a small army of disgruntled writers. he just seems like a boss from hell. or maybe he pays them a ton and they love him what do i know?

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 14:50 (four days ago) link

Paul F Tompkins has worked for Maher in the past and while he's not said anything explicit, he's made it pretty clear he didn't consider him a great boss.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:52 (four days ago) link

oh wait -- I confused Maher with Jon Stewart. I confused one smug doofus with another slightly less smug doofus.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2025 14:55 (four days ago) link

was gonna say I'd be surprised if AOC gave Maher the time of day, Jon Stewart on the other hand I think is fine

frogbs, Monday, 27 January 2025 14:56 (four days ago) link

i can't watch john stewart on his monday daily show thing. i think he must be deaf he just screams for 10 minutes. way way way over the top.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 15:13 (four days ago) link

and just tired. the act. as tired as bill maher in a different way.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 15:13 (four days ago) link

I've never seen one of these recorded, but a friend of mine saw Letterman in his heyday and he was shocked that even with a funny host and funny jokes and writing, there were still hype men in the crowd getting people to hoot and holler louder at every bit and punchline.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 January 2025 15:59 (four days ago) link

I was going n the audience for the first season of saved by the bell

Heez, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:08 (four days ago) link

I've always wondered that when it comes to shows like Seinfeld, a lot of times you're seeing the 3rd or 4th take, how are they still laughing like it's the first time they heard it?

frogbs, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:11 (four days ago) link

Need to change that thread title.

cryptosicko, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:14 (four days ago) link

well, he is a classic...asshole.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:17 (four days ago) link

i can't believe my nearest and dearest started this thread. she'll never live it down. i blame ralph nader. AGAIN. that was the reason she started this thread. when he had ralph nader on his show and begged him not to run for president.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:20 (four days ago) link

This should be one of those threads like the Morrissey one where it only gets bumped when the subject is dead

triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 27 January 2025 16:21 (four days ago) link

he was always a smarm king but now he's just a broken record on woke and the youngs...its so embarrassing. and he's like trump. he'll never back off of it. just become more embarrassing. he is instructive though. what not to do as i age.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:21 (four days ago) link

still find it hard to get over the Steve-O story. if you don't know apparently he wanted him on as a guest and Steve-O accepted under one condition, that Maher wouldn't smoke weed during the interview. seems pretty obvious, given the substance abuse issues he's had in the past. should be easy to comply with, right? if you wanna be high just smoke beforehand or take an edible. but he just flat out refused, like nah if I can't smoke weed during the interview I won't do it. so the pompous asshole routine ain't just for TV

frogbs, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:39 (four days ago) link

the world missed out on a really good story about someone hurting their balls. of that i am sure.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 16:42 (four days ago) link

Does Maher regularly smoke weed on the show, or is this just more of his libertarian fuck-your-feelings shit?

cryptosicko, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:00 (four days ago) link

He apparently smokes all the way through his podcast. Not the HBO show.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 27 January 2025 17:01 (four days ago) link

he basically spends an hour fumbling with a lighter and trying to put ice into a glass. its maddening to watch. like when dave chappelle ALMOST lights a cigarette or vapes on one of his netflix specials. makes me want to jump off a bridge.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:04 (four days ago) link

Only bits I've seen of his podcast (on YouTube) are of Richard Dreyfuss having some sorta breakdown, and Bill telling Cameron Crowe why Billy Joel is his favourite artist (I can kinda respect the latter).

cryptosicko, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:05 (four days ago) link

Most of what I know about Bill Maher's podcast comes from Tim Heidecker's parody of it.

jaymc, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:08 (four days ago) link

I saw an episode with Daryl Hall a couple years ago just for the sake of Hall and he was smoking the entire time. Hall stuck with bourbon.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2025 17:11 (four days ago) link

parents could show their kids that podcast and say "see, see what happens...". that oughta scare them.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:14 (four days ago) link

or just show them steve-o's podcast.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:16 (four days ago) link

i am watching a lot of comedian podcasts on youtube at work now cuz they are easy to watch/listen to while i do my discogs and i really wish they believed in editing more. i don't need to see david cross and his guest take off their coats and figure out what chair to sit in and get good subway route talk for 5 minutes. i love when guests on these say "wait, have we started...?" a half hour into the podcast. its like watching a band tune up.

scott seward, Monday, 27 January 2025 17:19 (four days ago) link

Maher did a really creepy bit a few months ago where he interviewed a few little kids and made a bunch of sex jokes and asked them how many times they'd transitioned genders.

He also did a slimy drunken interview with the Hawk Tuah girl that sounded like how I imagine a lot of Harvey Weinstein's assaults began.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Monday, 27 January 2025 17:59 (four days ago) link

Don't think I've ever seen a person who has benefitted less from smoking weed than Maher. It just makes him even less funny, charming, and relaxed.

Chris L, Monday, 27 January 2025 18:43 (four days ago) link

I went to a taping of Politically Incorrect near the end of it's run. We tried to get into the Price is Right and were turned away so it was either that or the Craig Kilborn show. A difficult choice of smugness, but we went with Maher, who I had enjoyed earlier in the PI run. Yes, the hype man did gin up the crowd a whole bunch to hoot and holler and overlaugh at everything and, in that spirit, when Bill said something about it sadly being one of the last shows, I yelled "WOOOO YEAH!!!" at the top of my lungs over an otherwise silent crowd. Bill seemed genuinely annoyed and squinted to try to see where I was and said "Well, I guess it's not a sad thing for everybody." David Crosby was on stage and grinned like a madman. This was over 20 years ago and he's gotten much worse since then so I remain proud that I hurt Bill Maher's feelings a little bit once.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:13 (four days ago) link

thank you for your service

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:23 (four days ago) link

David Crosby was on stage and grinned like a madman.

lol

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:25 (four days ago) link

it turns out they don't really look that much alike but my mental image of Maher is forever Leisure Suit Larry

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:34 (four days ago) link

He’s got such dopey Uncle vibes

Cow_Art, Monday, 27 January 2025 19:39 (four days ago) link

_David Crosby was on stage and grinned like a madman.


Missing line from American Pie

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:45 (four days ago) link

Bill Maher is the jester

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Monday, 27 January 2025 19:51 (four days ago) link

I've always wondered that when it comes to shows like Seinfeld, a lot of times you're seeing the 3rd or 4th take, how are they still laughing like it's the first time they heard it?

― frogbs, Monday, January 27, 2025 12:11 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

They have separate audience mikes and they just edit it together however they want. Even the "filmed in front of a live audience" laughter in shows like Seinfeld isn't real.

master of the pan (abanana), Monday, 27 January 2025 22:13 (four days ago) link

threads that badly need their titles changed lol

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 02:36 (three days ago) link

Bill Maher— Chronic or Drunk?

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 03:48 (three days ago) link

when I watched Tim Heideckers impression of him I thought it was funny but probably should've been more subtle then I watched some actual clips of Bill Maher and wow he really is like that

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 January 2025 03:53 (three days ago) link


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