innovative video games

the second one looks like a new age nightmare.

Anyone remember that indie game where you control someone in the wtc to either jump to your death or go down stairs and burn to death? I don't care much about this game per se but I remember searching about it and finding other video games also labelled as "art". Searching for independent video games didn't get me this information but anyway I find it nice to visit http://www.indiegames.com/ every once in a while. Unfortunately "experimental video game" or "avant garde video game" got me only a few results and that game wasn't among those.

anyone knows more about this?

ps feel free to discuss your opinions about innovations in video games.

"(about dogme 95) I believe it's time for a similar debate in the game industry. We, too, have an arsenal of production techniques, and they're getting more spectacular all the time. Yet how many games on the store shelves can genuinely claim to be innovative? They may have innovative algorithms, but very few of them have innovative gameplay. How many first-person shooters, how many war games, how many run-and-jump video games do we really need? We're depending so much on the hardware that we're starting to ignore the bedrock foundation of our business: creativity, especially in devising not merely new games, but new kinds of games."

http://www.highwaygames.com/db_images/screen_2307.jpg

rip: the couple of weeks of archives that got lost during some server switch , anyway I'm pretty sure most of the stuff that was mentioned got talked about at I Love Games

Mindball goes for $24,000.00/pop.

http://www.bio-medical.com/product_info.cfm?inventory__imodel=mindball&gclid=CMaMwfPZ3pICFRwsagodBVSy-w

I think Im going to d/l Zork now.

http://www.physorg.com/news129475278.html

«A new game, named Foldit, turns protein folding into a competitive
sport. Introductory levels teach the rules, which are the same laws of
physics by which protein strands curl and twist into three-dimensional
shapes – key for biological mysteries ranging from Alzheimer's to
vaccines.

After about 20 minutes of training, people feel like they're playing a
video game but are actually mouse-clicking in the name of medical
science. The free program is at http://fold.it/ .

[...]

"There are too many possibilities for the computer to go through every
possible one," Baker said. "An approach like Rosetta@home does well on
small proteins, but as the protein gets bigger and bigger it gets
harder and harder, and the computers often fail.

"People, using their intuition, might be able to home in on the right
answer much more quickly."

[...]

The intuitive skills that make someone good at playing Foldit are not
necessarily the ones that make a top biologist. Baker says his
13-year-old son is faster at folding proteins than he is. Others may
be even faster.»

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there are some foldit videos on youtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lGYJyur4FUA&;feature=related

it would be nice to have on the ds

I played a bit of foldit tonight and it's pretty fun. I don't know the first thing about chemistry, and it didn't give me a spot of difficulty.

In theory, this is awesome. In practice, too arbitrary, for me anyway. Am stuck around level 4-4 - it's too hard to see what generates a good score. Even with no protein clashes and everything tightly packed and all the right hydrogen bonds, I'm still 50+ points off the required total.

But y'know I guess that just means i r not innate expert protein folder. Would love to see more games along this line.

I found myself in that spot a few times but I just did wiggle until I got above the right score. Of course, that doesn't work on many.

It does seem arbitrary, I agree, but I guess it's just realistic?

well yeah. maybe there's a learning curve, it becomes more apparent... doubt i'll play it enough to find out though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7KwdqyyUO8