Read My Brother On Conspiracy Theories...

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I haven't actually read the entire article yet, but I thought I would post the ULR so you can read along/comment:

http://www.bestwriters.com/good/archives/00000031.htm

I'm quite interested to see how much of it is nastiness *aimed* at me, and how much is quite rational stuff *stolen* from me, mwah hah hah. Or indeed, if he's just stopped taking his medication and is now going on about the "Covert Coalition to Rule the World" in place of his obsession with lamps.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

By ULR, that would mean URL, unless someone can come up with a super-spooky conspiracy that ULR stands for... ;-)

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ULR is the URL Locator Resource, a.k.a. Google.

I'm not convinced that a bunch of people with a broadly similar goal (NWO) equates to a coherent strategy to make it so, but it's fun reading about it.

I liked this bit:
Blair's ultimate dream is, of course, to reconcile the US and EU factions, with him in the key brokerage position between the two that would naturally lead to his being the only party acceptable to both sides and thus the natural leader of the whole thing.

Lady Thatcher described him as "possessed with a doomed ambition to rule Europe." I think she may have underestimated.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't had time to read the whole thing... stupid work!

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

from the conclusions section

"So second, conservatives must cease being gullible about their leadership. The CCRW collaborators in the Republican Party must go. The first step for this must be the abandonment to defeat of George W. Bush, followed by the recreation of the Republican party as a right-wing populist and nationalist party."

oh dear...

zappi (joni), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well, that's been his agenda all along.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Its not exactly shocking to hear that organisations like the EU aren't about breaking down sovereignty. Maybe he should throw in a few reasons as to why we should be apalled by this

fcussen (Burger), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

that organisations like the EU aren't about breaking down sovereignty

that organisations like the EU are about breaking down sovereignty

fcussen (Burger), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Also he goes on about how the globalist agenda is incoherent and self-contradictory and then tries to paint it as a Marxism-like ideology that seizes people's minds as an ersatz religion

fcussen (Burger), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Every sentence of this could be picked out and pulled apart. But this one stands out to me, at least:

I admit that there is not the space in this article to exhibit a dispositive pile of evidence for my thesis, but I trust the reader will admit that my case does not depend upon magical or impossible knowledge of things that go on in other people's minds or behind locked doors. My argument here fundamentally turns upon known basics of human nature and the fact that the hypothesis that there is a CCRW explains the known historical data better than the hypothesis that there is not.

I.e. "I have no evidence but it sounds about right I guess".

People with similar interests often get together to discuss things, e.g. the B1lderberg Gr0up. But that doesn't mean they're planning to do Evil Things. (Though the things they happen to decide to do may not be in everyone in the world's interests.)

The people he seems to be accusing of being in the CCRW are people who are already in positions of power - so he's saying that the people who want to rule the world are the people who already do so. The CCRW theory would only make sense if there were a small group of people controlling these powerful types about whom nobody knows. And that's the point at which you can substitute this small group for giant lizards or freemXsons or whatever your bogeyman of choice is.

And the article is full of straw men too e.g. blank [blanket?] refusals to admit the existence of conspiracies ever, and saying that the USSR created a conspiracy towards the US. Well they were plotting to bring about each others' downfalls. But conspiracy needs >1 party.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh, its a bit strange when you say something like

but I trust the reader will admit that my case does not depend upon magical or impossible knowledge of things that go on in other people's minds or behind locked doors.

and then go on to say

WWI gave this conspiracy its first great opening as the conspirators pushed the US into WWI by deliberately provoking Germany into supplying the "incidents," like the sinking of the munitions ship Lusitania, that would produce the same reaction in the American public that followed Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

of course they did.....
i must admit i found this article entertaining though, better written than the usual wingnut fare.

zappi (joni), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Probably the best analysis is that of Rev. Pat Robertson in his book The New World Order, which makes a well-researched effort to reconstruct a coherent history of the various parts of the conspiracy, where they came from, and what they wanted."

Jesus, he's quoting Pat Fucking Robertson.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 2 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

He'd have been better off quoting one of those 'redneck gun nuts from Idaho'.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)


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