Are you a Puritan or a Player?

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Why graduates need extra degrees in charisma to survive the job jungle
(Filed: 02/08/2004)

Employers are staging a 'Darwinian war for talent' in which only the business savvy player makes the first rung on the ladder, writes John Clare, Education Editor
A glut of young graduates entering the job market is driving employers to engage in a 'Darwinian war for talent', forcing applicants to demonstrate personal qualities that 'in a previous life may have resulted in canonisation', according to study published this week.
With nearly half of young people going to university and most emerging with an upper second class degree, employers are resorting to 'elitist' selection procedures that effectively sabotage the Government's efforts to improve opportunities for those from less privileged backgrounds.
The study, by two academics, finds that it is not knowledge or technical competence that secures a good job but 'personal capital', which includes such 'soft' skills as the ability to communicate, persuade, adapt, solve problems, show good judgment, initiate change, work in teams, be creative, demonstrate business acumen and network with customers and clients.
Such socially confident and 'charismatic' personalities also need to 'look good and sound right', and have almost invariably been to an elite university, the authors say.
'The 'best' companies want to recruit the 'best' people, who are most likely to have attended the 'best' universities, because they are the hardest to enter.'
Similarly, it is not enough to have travelled. Now, you need to have 'canoed up the Amazon backwards' and be able to demonstrate the relevance of the experience to a potential employer.
The study - by Phillip Brown, professor of social sciences at Cardiff, and Anthony Hesketh, a lecturer in management at Lancaster - divides candidates into two broad categories: 'purists' and 'players'.
The purists 'have not woken up to the realities of labour market competition'. Holding on to the traditional meritocratic creed, they believe that if they are good enough, they will get a good job, and that it is simply a question of finding one that matches their knowledge, personality and aspirations. 'Take me as I am,' they say. 'I've got to be me. If you don't want me then I don't want to work for you.'
The players, on the other hand, are the candidates who, increasingly, get the jobs. They understand the rules of the game and make sure they are properly prepared.
They deliberately build up their curriculum vitae by undertaking voluntary work and extra-curricular activities - becoming club captain, society treasurer or debating society chairman - as a way of 'sending appropriate messages' to employers.
They practise taking psychometric tests, take part in simulated group exercises and read books on how to answer difficult interview questions and 'reinvent oneself for success'. To 'decode the winning formula', they study employers' websites and corporate literature. 'You find out what they want to hear and then you tell them what they want to hear,' one player explained to the authors.
You don't deliberately lie, but you're economical with the truth. You don't be yourself - you glorify things a bit.' Purists see players as cheats - industrial saboteurs who are undermining the integrity of the meritocratic process.
More purists, though, are becoming players, and the ability of the recruiters to identify those who are faking it is 'far from foolproof', the study says.
The recruiters, who receive an average of 20 applicants for every post, measure the candidates on two scales: their educational qualifications and formal achievements, known as 'hard currencies'; and their interpersonal skills, known as 'soft currencies'.
They are looking for those who can 'hit the ground running' - who are 'oven-ready'.
The sort of questions they ask are: 'Give an example of when you've been in a team situation; tell me about a time when you faced a major challenge; give an example of where you found an innovative solution to a problem; what would you do if you weren't getting on with someone at work?'
They divide those they have interviewed and assessed into eight categories, half employable, half not.
'The expansion of higher education has not led to an increase in the demand for 'knowledge workers' ', the authors conclude.
'That is why up to 40 per cent of graduates are in non-graduate work, a proportion that is likely to increase.
'Consequently, despite the rhetoric of 'competence', issues of appearance, social fit and personal chemistry have, if anything, become more important. There is an increasing mismatch between what is required to get a good job and what is required to do a good job.'

ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

do i have to read all that?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm interested but my brane don't work too gwood at 10.20 am

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

So we've bred a nation of spin-doctors? WELL DONE TONY, YOU FUCKIGN CUNT.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Surprise, surprise, it's ILX's disenfranchised English graduate boys bitching on this thread!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

haha!

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, man, watch what you're saying: I studied history.

ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, I meant that we're FROM ENGLAND - I did Popular Culture & Philosophy = I am good for fuck-all.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

So this is me, then:

The purists 'have not woken up to the realities of labour market competition'. Holding on to the traditional meritocratic creed, they believe that if they are good enough, they will get a good job, and that it is simply a question of finding one that matches their knowledge, personality and aspirations. 'Take me as I am,' they say. 'I've got to be me. If you don't want me then I don't want to work for you.'

=Teh Fountainhead played out in Office Angels.

ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Puritan, partly from principle, partly from laziness. My (Fine Art, ho ho) degree is bugger all use in getting a job (unless I want to schmooze gallery owners and dealers) so I should probably pull my socks up.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hasn't that always been the way, though?

Me? I always preferred the random but strangely natural selection process as practised by Lee J Cobb in On The Waterfront, viz. everyone turns up at 6 am, and LJC points finger randomly: "you, you and you."

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering if this really was 'shock news'. It's a crap-shoot, as far as I can tell: I had a 12-month interlude in the NHS being paid 150% what I'm on now based on a good word from my flatmate, who was temping for them, and a 15 minute 'interview' which consisted of my boss whinging about Alan Milburn. Basically the Cobb principle in effect.

ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it has always been thus, yes.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

do i have to read all that?
-- dog latin (doglati...), August 3rd, 2004 9:17 AM. (later)


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i'm interested but my brane don't work too gwood at 10.20 am
-- dog latin (doglati...), August 3rd, 2004 9:18 AM. (later)

well, you're fired!!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That line from one of the skits on The College Dropout springs to mind - you know, the one about the graduate who ends up being the secretary's secretary, to a secretary who never even went to college but is the boss' daughter, etc.

My Oxford entrance exam interview consisted of me and my tutor yapping about Cole Porter for an hour. It worked!

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Puritan, partly from principle, partly from laziness. My (Fine Art, ho ho) degree is bugger all use in getting a job (unless I want to schmooze gallery owners and dealers) so I should probably pull my socks up.

but i thought the whole point is that it's not as important now what degree you have but like what your "soft" skills are e.g. things like communications etc. and omgwtf you're from oxford. and can use a computer.

I'm the strange breed of the charismatic "players" who don't actually have to lie in an interview - i'm that good!!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Cor, thank god I don't want a Proper Job. Fuck having 'people skills.'

Fergal (Ferg), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ENRQ: Nice post and certainly something to think about.

I've always been a Player, similar to ken c. It has just been a natural part of my personality.

I may have gone for interviews that started, for the first minute, on traditional grounds, but like Marcello, within minutes, the boss, dean, etc., and I were chatting about (literally) canoeing the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, or just which part of San Franciso was the best part to show/hide from tourists.

I may be one of the oldest members of this board, a proud 52 years young, but even in my pre-uni days, counselors were adamant about pushing students to beef up their resumes. Sure, I did all the hippy things: protesting, pot-smoking, wearing tie die, but, I also was all the required things that looked good for leadership skills. None of this was forced, I was just a natural born leader, so it was easy to multi-task.

Then, when I was hired at each individual firm, I'd privately evaluate what each and every one of them did WRONG, got on vendor's private lists, all with the idea of ultimately opening up my own landscape firm. I never stole business, I never stole clients, I just improved upon what I saw going on and have stayed good friends with all the nursuries I interned at.

So, from my standpoint, the above article is only stating what has gone on in life since human life: the charismatic, people-pleasing person is the one that gets ahead, while the quieter, more subdued person gets passed over.

Now, I'm talking natural traits here. The kind that are exhibited since child birth, not the smarmy butt kissing lackies that alwayws get found out in the end.

What bothers me now, however, is the whiny, stroppy "Puritans" that piss and moan, usually in their LJ's, about how they can't understand why their company hasn't "promoted them, advanced them, appreciate them", and has advanced "chatty, shiny, happy people."

Well, d'Oh...sorry, Charlie, but with my own company, coming up on 15 years now, if I had the choice between a mope that dragged their ass to work, never contributed a new idea, left promptly at closing time, never took any initiative vs. a person who could jump into a "fire" and do damage control, a person that could come up to the boss (me) and say, "You know, I think that doing this THIS way might work out better"...I'd hire in a New York Minute the People person.

In one acquaintances LJ that I occasionally read (just because she's such a marked contrast to me), she has been whining for 5 years as to "how unfair life is for..." her husband and her. First, they are obviously cut from the same cloth; the kind that usually lives in Montana, in a log cabin and only comes down from the mountains once a year. But, they don't ...live in Montana...they live in Houston, Texas and are both computer techs. This woman,Moaning Miranda, yells how she's been 'asked' into the office, yet again, and told, "Miranda, we just can't give you the advancement because...'Phoebe' is more personable, capable, dresses better, goes to the office parties,..."

She then complains to all that can hear, "Hey! I show up for work; I don't stink

PsychoKitty (PsychoKitty), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(This bit got cut off from the first post of mine)

She then complains to all that can hear, "Hey! I show up for work; I don't stink

PsychoKitty (PsychoKitty), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(This bit got cut off from the first post of mine)

She then complains to all that can hear, "Hey! I show up for work; I don't stink

PsychoKitty (PsychoKitty), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry about the weirdness of the posts: the Message box won't allow the rest of Moaning Miranda's post. Oh God, it IS a conspiracy against stroppy people!

(This bit got cut off from the first post of mine)

She then complains to all that can hear, "Hey! I show up for work; I don't stink

PsychoKitty (PsychoKitty), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i need closure on that anecdote!

purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah me too!

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You're all fired!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)


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