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Before my brain fully developed, I used to collect football programmes. They weren't an investment or anything, it was just a vaguely inconvenient method of cluttering up the house with junk. Now I want to sell them on eBay. What is the best way to go about this? What do I need to know? Is it best to sell them individually or in job lots? Most of them are 'bread and butter' matches along the lines of Aston Villa vs Notts County, but there is the odd cup final, semi-final, etc. They are all 20-25 years old now. Some of them contain pictures of Ron Saunders. I suppose it would be better to wait until football fever once again has the nation in its grip.

Basically, what do you know about the football programme collectors' market?

Thank you in adavnce.

If you are a random googler, please register and tell me what you know.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

from what I remember (I used to have loads - til they got thrown out - long story) it's best to group them into the home teams if you see what I mean, and package them that way, picking out any important or significant games and doing them separately.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Right you are - would season by season be good, for example? They are nearly all the same home team.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

that would probably be a winner

a possibility is to try message boards for said Team, and ask there

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd second porky's last suggestion.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

What if I get bummed?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a story to tell the grandkids

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I think I've just derailed my own thread. I'm ever so bored today.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I ruined the collectability of my old programmes pretty much at point-of-sale by writing on them. I couldn't resist scrawling the half-times in biro on the back and then various match details.

Particularly stupid is my treatment of the Everton-Liverpool prog from April '78 where the nine-year-old me has overcompensated for the disappointment of losing to David Johnson's late strike by filling in fantasy scores for the rest of the campaign (7-3 away win over Leeds, etc) to guarantee us second place behind Forest. Then I've blocked it all out with a Magic Marker so it bleeds through to the next page. This prog is an absolute gem - an interview with Gerry Marsden in the Red corner and Leonard Rossiter in the Blue. LR is pictured gooning around with an EFC scarf and relaxing in his stylish Chelsea pad. It must be worth 50-60p.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Here is my first attempt at selling a football programme by the popular 'online auction' method. I don't know whether mentions of Bovril are really appropriate. What do you think? Bit indie?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5117333783&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict it will sell for £18.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got thousands of old programmes (my grandad was a steward at Upton Park for about 30 years). Many have biro marks in the same vein as Michael's point up thread. Many feature the old-school cross referencing A-Z on half time scores (with scrawled scores, natch).

I'll be interested to see how much the Miller Man fetches for his programme.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

when i was very young i won a signed program in a competition. it was from a partick thistle v. aberdeen match - this was when aberdeen had that good side in the 80s, so it was signed by alex ferguson, gordon strachan, alex mcleish, mark mcghee, etc. of course i was a thistle fan so i was more excited by having alan roughs autograph!!

― zappi (joni), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Alan Rough! Remember that goal he let in when he came out to collect the ball and ran straight past, comically clutching the air? The instigator of the myth of Scottish goalkeepers. Or did someone precede him?

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It has already broken the eighteen pounds barrier. Go on, my son.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 21 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd have taken those Can CDs off yr hands, PJM. Er, but not for seven quid each. And 21 quid for the Pearce book! Wow.

Pam & I have only ever sold two things on eBay - and bought about 200. (I'll leave you to guess what the distribution of hers to mine might be.)

The programme at the Palace game today was FOUR ENGLISH POUNDS. I was shocked - it came with the latest issue of SE25 'free', which I sat on throughout and nearly left on the bus.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you have a good time? I watched the highlights on the television.

I would have liked more for those Can CDs, and someone sold the Ramones one for twice as much a few weeks earlier.

Bah!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 22 August 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The instigator of the myth of Scottish goalkeepers. Or did someone precede him?

Sadly, Frank Haffey, who was so crap he had to emigrate to Australia to stop people pointing at him in the street and laughing (he was the keeper when England beat Scotland 9-3, oh the pain, Berti Vogts thinks he has problems etc).

Alan Rough has just had his hair re-permed as the result of losing a bet on a local radio station. It looks stupid.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I ultimately had a smashing time at Selhurst; I've never seen a good Palace performance (I stopped going last season after December) and thankfully I didn't see one yesterday. We were lucky to get the penalty at a time when CP had their dander up but after that it was fairly comfortable.

I had a fine example of Sarf London youth next to me - so beered up he fell asleep midway through the first half, waking only to bellow witless abuse at any Everton player who came over to take a throw-in. "Oi, dickhead! Bald cunt!" Oh, look, that bald cunt has just curled a 20-yarder past your impressively hairy keeper.

I was reminded of that old Jasper Carrott routine about watching B'ham City go 2-0 up at Old Trafford from the Stretford End. "Yip!"

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I meant to change 'dander' to something that actually meant what I meant to say.

Scottish goalies: they called it the 'Scottish disease', didn't they? George Wood was so good for Everton from '77 to '79 that he ultimately got the international nod. He spills a shot at Wembley to allow Coppell to tap in and that's the end of that.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Example of English humour: Scottish *goal*keeper, there, Saint...

― the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that the example should have had quotation marks around it, for clarity's sake.

― the quotefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Joe Corrigan vs Alan Rough

― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I have heard Can. I think I may have missed their first appearance on the thread, also.

I love those old Cup Final programmes. Did England programmes look similar, at that time?

― the footfox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What does 'dander' mean? I think it may mean what you meant.

― the bluefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

donner

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Getting one's dander up means to get riled, doesn't it? I don't think that's what Mike meant. I don't know what the right word is at the moment, but it's not dander. Unless that's what he meant, which I don't think he did, given the context. But who knows? (except Mike, obviously).

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

To be per-fectly honest with you, I'm not even sure that *he* knows!

― the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That post automatically took out the John Motson laughter FX that I put in, making it even less funny than it was originally.

― the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant that the spirit was with them, y'know? A Stubbs goal-line clearance prevented them going two up and there was noise and passion and commitment. But not much talent and ability.

I brought up Can, PF, because I spotted PJM had sold some of their records on eBay.

Was Everybody Loves Raymond ever on British TV? That's what I'm working on today and it's...not very good. But comfortingly old-fashioned (yet it's only 1997).

[PF: I hope to retain the Hansen drawl for most of my first paragraph here].

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course it looks old-fashioned, Michael - that's because it belongs to the *pre-Blair era*. What's fascinating is to contrast Everyone Loves Raymond (by the way, has anyone ever thought that the name in the title might be a secret allusion to the veneration of Raymond Williams by the post-war New Left, very much in the puritanical socialist tradition of Morris and Hoggart? Morrissey, in his own way, is as derivative of that as anyone, though people seem unable to stop equating 'English nationalism' with the Right, which is really only a *post-Powellite* link) with, say, Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps, which obviously embraces the hedonistic attitude of the post-Blairite, post-Oasis model of culture. It's pathetic to wish that the former would return (do I detect a hint of that in your comment that 'it's ... not very good', Michael?), of course.

― Reynard the Fox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

[This is my new favourite thread]

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Raymond is on Paramount here, Mike - don't think it's ever been on broadcast TV. I watched part of one episode once, and that was plenty.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ELR goes out early in the mornings on Channel 4, around 8am weekdays in non-school-holiday daytime.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, I'm not surprised I didn't realise that!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I'm warming to it. I haven't chuckled yet, but it takes a lot to elicit a chuckle at work. Premium strength Black Books, maybe.

Sorry for the derail. I have the 1985 FA Cup Final programme somewhere and I'm pretty sure I didn't write on that - it was so pristine and glossy.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Everybody Loves Raymond is on C4 in the mornings when I am heading to work (about 8am). It's not very good.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

My brother likes it, but he also enjoyed every series of friends too.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

you should just shoot him.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't own a gun.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I like most series of Friends.

Which one don't you like, RJG?

Nearly forgot: Mike -- found out who scored in Spurs vs Everton, 1-1, January 2002. 4th minute or so: long-range header (!) from Sir Big Les; later, as you said, Weir. Your memory for it (two spectacular goals) astounds, except, I suppose, it doesn't.

― the bellefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It sold for the princely sum of THIRTY POUNDS.

I would have liked a bit more.

I forgot it was a bank holiday, so I lost the miserable back-to-work-tomorrow market, and many collectors would have been in Margate having a right old knees-up.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

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