Canadian Idol - compelling or is it just me (being Cdn)?

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So we're down to the top seven of Canadian Idol and I've been sitting down to watch it since the top 10 (and sometimes having the tv on and sort of watching it since, well, the very beginning.) I'm worried my brain is playing tricks on me: I shuttle back and forth btwn thinking these kids are great and thinking they're terrible. And last night I even voted! I didn't do that last season. So I'm thinking Olympic fever is already clouding my perceptions with nationalism. I know the show is bad, sure, but I keep thinking it's somehow different than American Idol, somehow, er, "better". Is anyone else similarly affected? (Also: Caleb should win. But he won't.)

(I can't believe this is what I come up with for my first ilx question, but my inquiring mind needs to know. So, hi. Robyn in Mtl.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Greetings! Alas I am not Canadian so I cannot say whether this is just you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

For whatever reason I thought this was a Huck thread. Greetings likewise, however!

Jimmy Carter, History's Greatest Monster (Leee), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

hello canada! I don't watch Cdn Idol, though, so I can't answer either. Hi, anyhow.

derrick (derrick), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Recently, I got hate mail on consecutive days from Theresa Sokyrka fans because of stuff I wrote on my blog. The strange thing is, I didn't even say anything bad about her -- I just said that the judges' praise was out of proportion with her talent (judging by the episode I saw).

I will likely tune in again when I return from Berlin, because the last five weeks or so of Canadian Idol is about all the Ben Mulroney I can stand.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 6 August 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK, Ben Mulroney hosts it? Or is he singing? goddamn.

Ok, who's more obnoxious: Ben Mulroney or Justin Trudeau?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

mulroney

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

someone should do a reality show based on that question. CBC, if they had any balls.

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't understand what Ben Mulroney's coasting on, exactly... everyone still hates his dad, unlike Justin, who might as well be Jesus for all the praise his dad gets.

What about Joe Clark's daughter? Catherine? Christine?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't understand what Ben Mulroney's coasting on,

That famous Mulroney charisma, of course. Does Chretien have any annoying kids?

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Canadians don't know nearly enough about the private lives of our leaders.

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 6 August 2004 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, who's more obnoxious: Ben Mulroney or Justin Trudeau?
Justin is annoying, Ben is by far more obnoxious.
CBC should run with the Kenny Vs Spenny idea and have Joe Clark's daughter host Ben Vs Justin.
Chretien has one daughter and two sons.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Catherine Clark makes me wanna vote Conservative, even though I'm not sure where the Clark family stands anymore. Besides, she's married.

Chrétien's sons are too old and too Chrétien-y to ever be TV-friendly.

I went to high schoool (a few grades ahead) with one of the (now-departed) Idols. She had a different name then, and I think I might have been cruel to her. I have no regrets.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Not like, evil cruel, just, like drama club cruel.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's put it this way, Chretien married when Joe Clark's wife was five years old. JC is 70 this year, making him older then Campbell, Clark and Mulroney. As he would still kick PM The PM ass. All leadership debates in the future should be decided by no holds barred cage matches.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

What do JC, JC, BM, JT and PET have in common (I dunno about KC)?

RC.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

She was an Anglican of some type I think.
I'd almost be willing to bet most of our francophone PMs have been RC like WL.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the only real surprise was John Turner, and maybe, Joe Clark. Like OMG French Canadians, Catholic? No shit.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

JT is a bit of a suprise, since wasn't he the one that used to ballroom dance with British royalty?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I wake up late and it's become the prime minister thread! There's some kinda, like, irony in this. If only we could vote in federal elections using the redial button. I hope Ben never gets into politics.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure if I hate past Canadian Idol winners more then Bono. Damm whose got more celebrity drawing power up here.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

winners?

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Who was the Canadian Idol winner on World Idol who looked like a cutely incompetant NY cafe waiter? I liked him.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ok - so it's a case of "bad canadian, no ice time". cuz i don't watch cdn idol. is this a major deal that is sweeping the nation?

also - which PM sprog is in Iraq - i always say its ben mulroney but im sure that can't be right, surely?

old canadian joke:

how do you empty a pool of 60 cnaadians in 15 seconds? say "would you please get out of the pool? PLEASE?"

ahhh - that's a classic.

Anthony (Plato Guy), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I thought the second one was finished.

Who was the Canadian Idol winner on World Idol who looked like a cutely incompetant NY cafe waiter?

That's the problem, no one is really sure who he is. But he may have slept with Sass to win.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like me, I've heard.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - c-lassic.
Yeah, it's Justin Trudeau in the Middle East. I can barely imagine Ben Mulroney outside of Canada - I just see him cowering and making sure his hair is in place. While nervously smiling.

I don't know if Cdn Idol is a "major deal" but it's part of a broader phenomenon sweeping the globe! But second time around I'm noticing distinctly Cdn trends, notably that a little bit of nuttiness is favourable (see: Jenny Gear last year, Kaleb this year.)

(Last year's winner was Ryan Malcolm. From Kingston. Oh, the useless information my mind holds. Originally I wrote: He's cute in that boring ex-boyfriend way. Then I saw Huck's post - haha. I just mean he reminds me of cute guys who are doing interesting things but are actually boring when you get down to it. xpost.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

See, that's where we differ, my boringness is all up front.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I love karoake, but I think the Idol contestants aren't drinking enough before hand.
It's an unwritten rule.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

omg, I was totally thinking about how much drinking has to be going down in the Idol Mansion. I hope they're not being responsible and "saving their voices" n' crap. There's a newf in the group, and if stereotypes serve me right...

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

a Trudeau in iraq makes a lot more sense... is he reporting from tehre?

and is there an Iraq Idol? Then again, the last thing they need is a show that will only further rip the country apart through 1-900 voting.

If there's a quebecer i will - of course - support him/her unreservedly till they lose when i will blame english canada and mutter darkly about the plains of abraham.

Speaking of which it suddenly occurs to me that there was a French Language show Called Star Academie. i guess that was Quebec idol. You can ignore para#3.

Anthony (Plato Guy), Friday, 6 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I think it was Sacha Trudeau? ONe of them.
Quebec has their own thing which is even more popular.

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, yeah, it was Sacha, right. Justin is a teacher in BC.
Star Academie is a big deal. But as with most French-Cdn pop culture, it can be massive here and totally unknown elsewhere in Canada (except New Brunswick, of course - where last year's Star Academie winner was from.) I'm an anglaise from BC and therefore am still boggled by Quebec culture despite how improved my French has become. No Quebecers in the top 10 of Idol though this year, alas.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

you live in Quebec?

Huck, Friday, 6 August 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Who was the Canadian Idol winner on World Idol who looked like a cutely incompetant NY cafe waiter?
That's so OTM that it hurts.
(xpost)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I live in Montreal, Huck. I'm here doing an MA in media studies, hence all my trivial pop culture "knowledge". Funnily enough, I went to a conference earlier this year where one of the papers was about Canadian Idol and nationalism. Ah, academia.
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Tiny Talent Time, yo.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 7 August 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

But second time around I'm noticing distinctly Cdn trends, notably that a little bit of nuttiness is favourable (see: Jenny Gear last year, Kaleb this year.)
I haven't seen any episodes this year so I can't comment on Kaleb, but what was nutty about Jenny Gear?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anyone do Cdn RR Trilogy or Wr. of Ed. Fitz?

Huck, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Relative to most of the other contestants (and American Idol too), Jenny Gear was quirky, different, not only in mannerisms but in voice. She's nutty in an endearing way, don't get me wrong. This is a large part of why I liked her - wow, personality!
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha - Gordon Lightfoot show yesterday. Only in Canada would such non-P.O.P. happen on a pop idol show. I liked it. I have no idea how they're going to pull off the cheesy Thursday-night medley and dance routine with Lightfoot songs, but it should be worth watching.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
ONE MORE NIGHT!

Huk-L, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I missed that Lightfoot show, how was it?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Lightfood night was good, really. They didn't do a medley, thank god, but instead did a song where they all played instruments and sang (sure it was a bit cheesey, but the sincerity and sweetness worked. I swear Cdn Idol is way more twee than Am Idol.)

Yes, finally it's going to be over. I was well and truly sucked in and ended up watching every week (or at least had the tv on in the other room so I could hear it, but still, I was *aware* and hooked.) I'm sure that Kalan will win, but the top six will get recording contracts of one sort or another. It's kinda like meh, "winner", whatever. Yet I will watch...

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago)

I am so glad that I was away for most of the summer and didn't have to watch this drivel.

Theresa's first performance was SO FUCKING BAD I was literally cringing in my seat. Her pitch was awful, the entire delivery was roadkill-level dead, the chorus had no punch or power, the low notes couldn't possibly bore me or put me to sleep because the intonation was so bad that I was literally getting those bad sorts of shivers like the kind you get when you rub a balloon on a wool sweater for five minutes. And her dress was shlumpy, it hung off her body like a drape whose hooks have been fastened in the wrong order on the line. And this was her BEST outfit of the night. Who told her to wear those high black socks with her second dress? And the third outfit -- head down to Queen Street (for all you Torontonians), walk blindfolded into a second hand store such as Black Market, pick out any five random items of clothing and you'd have an ensemble that had ten times the fashion sense of that sub-bohemian sludge-outfit she wore.

And then came the most OMMFMFMFMFMFMFG!!!!!!! TV moment of the year -- the JUDGES PRAISED THIS DRIVEL!!!

As everyone already knows, Theresa's voice is nothing special. She can sing lounge-lite Norah Jones songs and nothing more.

Kalan is good -- certainly far from great -- but he's obviously got greater star power than the bland, made-for-elevators Theresa. He's got this 1993 Damon Albarn boyish mod thing going on, except of course he's a billion times cuter.

Overall though, for a final week performance, this was pitiful compared to the American counterparts. These two were timid, hideously unpolished, and the levels of fallibility and mediocrity just reeked of "high school talent show". I'm embarrassed for Canada.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 16 September 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago)

I could barely watch and kept flipping to That 70s Sh0w and W1ll&Grac3, which are both bad in their own ways, but not as bad as what went on on Cdn Idol tonight. So tedious and boring. The fashion/hair/makeup has always been bad on this show though, so no surprises there. But man, you'd think that they would have gone all out for, y'know, the Finale.

Yeah, re: highschool talent show: neither Kalan or Theresa are very secure with themselves and it shows, but hey, they're young and I'm sure are suffering from some kind of Cdn Idol shell shock (which I think is different from American Idol shell shock in that it doesn't instill enough Fear. And fear-related Glam.) Still, yeah, a bit embarrassing that this show is as popular as it is, but then, whatever, tv is full of embarrassment for individuals, nations, culture, generations, etc.

Nothing could have been worse than the "Instant St@r" tv movie that came on after Idol though. It took all of 3 minutes for the pain to set in and for the tv to go off.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 16 September 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago)


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