Nail Polish: Classic Or Dud

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This is for Emma who is getting bored of the poncey film questions (though I don't see why - she liked Amores Perros too, not to mention that pervy Canadian film about necrophilia).

Anyway Nail Polish - or as it was called in my blistering barnacled youth - Nail Varnish. A good thing, or does it bring back peeling grandmother flakey toe hell for you too?

Pete, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

heaven forbid a girl should ever do anything... girly.

JM, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

More classic than you could begin to imagine. Though dud if knocked off the table onto the carpet as it's very hard to get out.

Especially classic is quick dry nail varnish as I am guaranteed to get an itchy ear the moment I have applied it and cannot itch until varnish is dry.

And I also think there should be a law against women wearing open toe shoes without nail varnish on their toenails. Natural toenails ming badly. Mine are currently blue-purple type colour. Fingernails nude due to just having bought a French manicure kit but being unable to use it as my boss is in and will be able to smell it from his office.

Emma, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

More classic than you could begin to imagine. Though dud if knocked off the table onto the carpet as it's very hard to get out.

Especially classic is quick dry nail varnish as I am guaranteed to get an itchy ear the moment I have applied it and cannot scratch until varnish is dry.

And I also think there should be a law against women wearing open toe shoes without nail varnish on their toenails. Natural toenails ming badly. Mine are currently blue-purple type colour. Fingernails nude due to just having bought a French manicure kit but being unable to use it as my boss is in and will be able to smell it from his office.

Emma, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oops. Sorry. Got over excited. Also realised I had said itch my ear instead of scratch it and in the face of ILE pedantry thought I'd better correct it.

Emma, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I haven't had time to redo my pedicure in the past week or so and it's DRIVING ME MAD. Granted it's just this bronze color so it's not like some flashy red with chips in it like a reject from Jerry Springer is walking the streets but STILL.

I never do my fingernails though. I just do pedicures. I hate doing my nails, I hate my fingernails, I wish I didn't have any. I take wicked awful care of my hands.

Ally, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Classic of course. Good old rouge usually does the job, but I particularly like sparkly-glittery (although it's harder to remove) or a nice shade of purple. However black = dud.

Ally C, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You've got to be careful with dark colours as they stain your nails = dud.

World's best nail varnish remover = Quickies pads as it works on 5 layers of very dark red very quickly and can't spill.

Emma, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I knew Ally C would pop up here. Boys wearing nail varnish DUD. How many times have I told you, boy? I love nail varnish on women though. Although I'm not very keen on bright vermillion red. I like fingernails and toenails unvarnished too, though. Unless they are diseased.

Nick, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Boys wearing any type of makeup = dud as they aren't very good at it by and large and always end up looking like Fat Bob Smith. And besides, having spots, piggy eyes and thin lips is macho.

Emma, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I favour red for myself obviously.

But on girls hmmmm, I used to detest it, but as these days I am hanging out with a far glammer set of people I have learnt to like it if not love it, not so much bright red but I do like the sparkly stuff that Ally wears, preferably on girls though. No offence Ally.

cabbage, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Fat Bob Smith = the look of looks. All make-up not in this mode = mere way-stations en route to this peak.

mark s, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I prefer the lighter colours- silver, grey, holosparkle, but also dark blue. I can't stand any nail varnish that looks even semi-natural. I'm talking about the entire pink and red range. I like nail varnish colours that look good on 70s model gas-guzzling cadillacs- blues, greens, silvers, weird purples.

Nail varnish on boys is fine as long as it's not the "natural colours" or black. Silver and gunmetal grey look good on boys.

I don't know why I started hating black nail varnish so much. I used to wear nothing but black when I was wee. But now it is the mark of goffs and metallers.

That said, I barely wear nail varnish any more. Probably because playing guitar chips the fuck out of my nails. I wish someone would come up with a method for varnishing nails that cannot be scraped off by Ernie Ball Superslinkies. Sigh.

masonic boom, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Possibly the proudest moment of my high school career involves makeup:

Our English class had an assignment where we were supposed to research some person (living or dead) and dress up as that person and go on a talk show where the teachers asked us questions about "our" lives and accomplishments. I ended up being on the "entertainers" show with a girl who was going to do Diana Ross. She was very uspet because she was blue-eyed and very pale, but the teacher had an absolute conniption when she asked if it would be okay for her to put on a brown base for authenticity. Words like "racit" and "blackface" flew around the classroom and she ended up wearing a silly wig and pouting. Meanwhile, I had decided to be Robert Smith, so I went out and bought some white cake makeup and smeared it all over my face, then sloppily applied lipstick and eyeliner over that. I then walked around all of the hallways of my school before walking into the cable TV studio for the show. The teacher looked distinctly uncomfortable as the Diana Ross girl shrieked, "UNFAIR! UNFAIR! This is reverse discrimination! How come he can make himself white but I can't make myself black?" I simply smiled.

The teacher knew nothing about Robert Smith, so I just quoted some of the more ludicrous lies from _Ten Imaginary Years_ and took my A with good cheer. Didn't wear any nail polish for this, though. (In general, it's a huge dud for guys unless it's one of those colors that make your nails look like your fingertips were slammed in a door.)

Dan Perry, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Painting a boy's nails = more erotic than you can even begin to imagine, especially if you haven't snogged yet because it allows you to get very up close and gives you the wobbles. Or perhaps the fumes went to my head. Ahem. The smell of nail varnish = classic too.

I love, love, love nail varnish. Scarlet talons with a black dress slit up to the arse at the back and killer stiletto sandals make me feel good about myself when nothing else can. Ironically, I'm wearing my least favourite nail varnish today. It's salmon pink, the colour of the Wrong Sort of Geranium and far too middle aged, but it needs using up and a Monday in the office is the perfect opportunity.

I've always had problems with Quickies - they're too wet and I end up smearing the varnish all over my knuckles. Agnes B do a fabulous corrector pen though. It's sort of like those ink erasers you used at school, but for nail varnish. Your best friend when you're trying to do your nails on the bus.

Madchen, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I used to wear make-up, obviously including nail varnish, to annoy the hard lads round my way. And it actually suited me, being a slim'n'sexy 16-year old and not the bloated chain smoker I am today. Gorgeous dark blue = bestest.

DG, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Painting boy's toenails = *MOST* erotic act imaginable.

masonic boom, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hmm, there's an idea. Ally...

Pinefox, is this upping the ante enough?

Madchen, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think you stop inhaling those fumes, dear.

Ally C, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

There's a 'should' in there somewhere. Bums.

Ally C, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I suspicious of all forms of makeup on men or women, nail varnish being the exception. I can put it on without feeling like its on, any time anyone's made me up I've had to take it off almost immediately it feels so euagh. I don't really nderstand cosmetics beyod soap and deoderant. Shampoo is entirely superfluous with me and I;ve never really had spots, so soap and deodarent it is with me and tooth paste if that's a cosmetic

Ed, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

For the record, I really don't want to paint any boy's toenails cos I've yet to meet a boy with anything less than arrrgh feet. I mean, mine aren't exactly in the most wonderful shape ever (I've got this awful scarry thing from when I wore a bad pair of shoes and it totally tore my foot apart, it's still healing, plus I have a blister from being forced to hike all over Georgetown in spike heels), but they aren't hairy and they're at least passable. Boys are better off painting their fingernails, if they're going to do anything of the sort. I'm not a big fan of nail polish on boys though. Eyeliner, yes, nail polish no.

But this is because, as I said, I take vicious awful care of my hands. I think I actually go get a manicure once every couple years. I managed twice last year, ooooer. Every once and a while I do them myself, with a real real pale color like sheer white or pink, but really I don't keep them in good enough condition in general that it's worth it. I only paint them when the nicotene stains have gotten wicked on my right hand and I'm going someplace where I actually care what people think of me, ie the real estate board dinner or a Christmas party or something like that.

The problem is I put too much thought into the ENTIRE REST OF MY BEAUTY ROUTINE that something has to give, and it's my nails. Okay, there's a thread - what do you do to get ready to go out? I'm starting that then.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Feet are beutiful. Feet are great. Especially toes. You should probably ban Paul & I from contributing to this thread any further on "Get A Room" terms.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

How disappointing, Ally. UK women's magazines like to take their readers to task on the appalling state of our fingernails claiming that even bag ladies in NY have weekly manicures. They like to give the impression that women in NY refuse to leave the house unless they have had Botox injection, a Brazilian bikini wax, colour, cut 'n' blow dry and full manicure and pedicure.

Emma, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I used to be really obsessive about making sure my nails were perfect and would always paint them some gothy dark red or purple color. But for the past 4-5 years I don't touch them and they're now all raggedy and uncared for. It would just take too much time and work for me to make them look nice and I can't be bothered.

Nicole, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

My feet are flawless.

Nick, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm against botox injections on the basis that YOU'RE INJECTING YOUR FACE WITH BOTECHELLISM (SP?). Hello, poison? What the hell?

Women in NYC aren't nearly that ridiculous. I mean, we do all get our hair done proper like at a salon (home hair color, which used to be my expertise, barely touches my hair now), but most women I know don't bother with bikini waxing (takes too long to wait out the growth period, better off shaving when you need to, erm, show off that area), and manicures/pedicures are a weekly thing for the most neurotic women but only an occasional/when you feel like it thing for most of us. There's too much other stuff to do.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

BOTECHELLISM = botulism. But still very creepy. I think I'd rather get all wrinkly that have a disease injected into my face, thank-you-very-much. Maybe that's why Madonna acts so weirdly lately, her brain has been affected by it somehow?

Nicole, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I did ask my mum to buy them for me for my last birthday or to donate my Wedding Fund to this much worthier cause.

I read a thing in the Standard about (insane) women who have Botox parties where they invite a Top Surgeon round their gaffe and get him to Botox all of them together. I think this sort of party = big fat dud.

Emma, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I like the idea of Botticellism though. A disease that truns you into a white, porcelain statue. Also known as old lady foundation disease.

Pete, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

If I'm tired enough, I'm like a white statue. I just stand there, being very pale. I'd like to be like that all the time. "Sorry, can't come to work today, I just turned into a statue". No one would really be surprised.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You people are all insane. I find this ammount of fussiness and preening excedingly unattractive. But what do I know? I'm an unreconstructed old hippie with no eyebrows.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Isn't Botulism bacteria the most infectious thing in the entire world or something?

DG, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think you are thinking of the "If you like pina colada's and getting caught in the rain" song. That's the most infectious thing in the world.

See?

Pete, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Most poisonous, I think. Something like one cubic metre of it is enough to give everyone in the world a lethal dose. So I really going to have some of that injected into my forehaead, oh yes.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

There's a Quincy episode in there somewhere. You know that there is. I mean, every food poisoning episode in there ever came out to be about Botulism. And he did that "the modelling industry is KILLING THESE GIRLS!!!" episode... so think what could happen if Quincy could get his hands on Botox doctors?

masonic boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Botulism = toxic only if swallowed not if injected into facial muscles. This is not totally unreasonable, surely? If you rubbed a bit of salmonella ridden chicken on yourself (why you would want to do this is beyond me but still) you would not get salmonella, would you? Unless you then licked that part of you.

Emma, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You could because you'd then move your hand to your face for some reason, possibly, the hand that was touching the Bacteria Chicken, and then you would die of salmonella because it would travel from your hand across your cheek and into your mouth. Or something to that effect. I'm really certain of it. And I bet the botox migrates from your forehead to your heart and kills you instantly, 10 years later.

Maybe not but it'd be pretty amusing for me if that was true. If you get too much botox put in, incidentally, your forehead DROOPS into your eyes. MUCH more sexy than forehead wrinkles.

Ally, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Botox injections are only non-toxic because the amount of botulism stuff injected is so small that it doesn't spread any further than the forehead muscles. However, it works in the same way as it kills you: by knocking out nerves. Inject it into a blood vessel by mistake and you might be in serious trouble. As far as rubbing yourself with salmonella is concerned, no you wouldn't get ill, but if you injected it you almost certainly would, so your analogy doesn't really hold up.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm sorry that I'm too distracted by the twin concepts of droopy foreheads and smearing yourself with chicken to contribute meaningfully to this conversation. My experience with nail polish: my wife, after much badgering, got me to allow her to give me a pedicure. The foot soak/rub was fine, the exfoliation was ticklish but tolerable, and so on. Everything was going well until I looked up from my book and noticed her going for the clear nail polish.

Me: What are you doing?
Her: I'm going to paint your toenails.
Me: THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE BARGAIN.
Her: But I have to in order to fully protect your toenails!
Me: Exactly how stupid do you think I am?
Her: Oh, come on. It's clear anyway; no one wil notice. Please?
Me: Oh, all right.

We had a choir rehearsal later that day. It was hot, so I put on my sandals. The first thing said to me when we walk into the room is, "Hey Dan, what's u- Did you paint your toenails?" There was much scowling and bad-temperedness.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I wear sparkly blue nailpolish on my hands because it looks silly and fun. I wear bright red nailpolish on my toes because it makes me look like a whore.

anthony, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Reaching waaay back -- having fingernails painted by girl = classic and erotic.

Sterlign Clover, Tuesday, 10 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dan, you loved it, and you know it. :-) I remember using my little sister's clear nail stuff when I was in third grade, and I for one rather enjoyed it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well thank you all for coming over all scientific but the fact remains that I've not heard of anyone dying from Botox injections which have been around for a good long while so there. I don't think the incubation period for Botulism is very long so it's not likely they will suddenly start appearing.

On a nail varnish related theme I just got a French Manicure kit with little stickers which I did last night. It requires the patience of a saint and the manual steadiness of a teetotaller, neither of which I have, but I made a pretty good job of it (on my right hand, I am left handed, the left hand is going to remain hidden until I redo my nails).

Emma, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You aren't going to die of Botox injections because it's not quite enough, lighten up. It is rather well documented that, even in that TINY DOSE, injecting it in the slightest bit wrong of a spot results in paralysis of the face and dead tissue - people are suing their surgeons over this. So it seems sensible to me when people say that if the slightest bit wrong AMOUNT is used, it could do some real serious damage. It IS poison you know.

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

So is alcohol. Sometimes.

Emma, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

you'd have to drink loads more alcohol than you would botox in order to die ;)

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Maybe bouze and botox cocktails will catch on? Get pissed and look firmer in one tasty drink!

Emma, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Injections of alcohol would probably work just as well. The whole point is that they immobilse the muscles, and relax the face, making wrinkles go away. Alcohol immobilises and relaxes us just fine, why wouldn't it work on our wrinkles? Hooray! Everybody drink up, I've finally found a justification. It's part of our beauty routine.

masonic boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sadly alcohol dehydrates you so is not at all good for skincare routines. Damn.

Emma, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That's why you slather on extra moisturizer. This is a great plan.

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I now have a horrendous image of me aged about 47 slumped at a bar with some naff Botox cocktail in front of me and my face smeared with Oil of Ulay (or Olay or whatever) looking perma-surprised thanks to far too many Botox Martinis.

Emma, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one month passes...
I am a boy. I am now 16. I have been wearing nailpolish on my toes since I was 10. I only occasionaly wear nailpolish on my fingers for obvious reasons. I love to sit at home after a bath and do my toes. I also love them being done for me. I do not wear other forms of cosmetics very often, but have tried them, and find them fun too. Michael.

Michael McPherson, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That botox sounds absolutely disgusting. I'd never heard of it beforehand.

I think clean, evenly cut or filed nails look quite nice and nail polish is usually ugly. (I'm currently wearing one that's a sort of iridescent green and purple. Next will be a red and gold mix. It's ugly, but it's shiny so I go for it sometimes.)

Of course for people with verrry long thin talons it's smashing, but I keep my nails short so it's easier to play my instruments.

maria, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ten years pass...

I am wearing a sort of mousy grey nail color and my friend told me, "I like your CORPSE NAILS" (latter part in cookie monster voice). I told her it means I'm a rock eater.

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Friday, 10 February 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

Best neutral/"I have a real job" nail color I have is an orange-red
http://www.essie.com/shop/product_thumb.php?img=images/meet_me_at_sunset.png&w=300&h=300
wait I guess that's not neutral at all
BUT IT MATCHES MY SCOOTER AT LEAST

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Friday, 10 February 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link


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