Like 10,000 spoons, when all you need is a knife.

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― DavidM, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She is a flip flap flop. Its baout time we called her onn it

― Mike Hanle y, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I really hate it when I go into my kitchen and it's all ten thousand spoons cluttering up my utensil caddy and someone has stolen my one precious knife. That totally sucks.

I also hate it when I'm executed on death row and then some dude pardons me like ten minutes later? I mean, does that ever blow.

― Kim, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I heard that prisoners on death row in Texas were banned from smoking, isn't ironic, don't ya think?

― james, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, who the fuck does she think she is? Uri Geller?

― Kerry, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ms. Morrissette (sp?) didn't write the words to that song, she just sang it.

A high school english tecaher read the lyrics to that tune for the "irony" segment of class. She also winked at me the whole time. Then she had us write our own verse to the song, which students then read aloud to the class. The only example I remember is, "It's like going on a diet when you want to be fat." Conclusion: 'Anyone can do this, folks.'

― 1 1 2 3 5, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the brunching shuttlecocks sit is where I did my axe murderer test, where I got 100% serial killing capabilities, oh and don't forget to choose your own damn pokemon...

― Menelaus Darcy, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ed Byrne, an Irish stand-up comedian, made the very valid point that everything in that song is not really *ironic*, its just *unfortunate*. For example:
Like 10,000 forks, when all you want is a knife = unfortunate
Like 10,000 forks, when all you want is a knife, but then find with hindsight that a fork would have been OK after all = ironic.
Like ra-i-ain on your wedding day = unfortunate
Like ra-i-ain on your wedding day but you were marrying a meteorolgist specialising in the study of precipitation systems who predicted fine weather = ironic.

― Will, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ed Byrne also got everyone in his audience to raise their hands and worked out that between them they had NOWHERE NEAR 10,000 spoons! HE then went on to muse: "Knives & spoons don't do the same job, so why would you want a knife? Probably to stab the bastard leaving spoons all over the place!"

― Kodanshi, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This has always bugged me though. Spoons are for scooping, knives for cutting and forks for stabbing and scooping of non liquid foods. Hence spoon for soup, knife and fork for dinner. But wither the spoon and fork for puddings, where often (say - with pies) cutting would actually be very useful.

The bloke on the plane dying is ironic.

― Pete, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ed Byrne, an Irish stand-up comedian, made the very valid point that everything in that song is not really *ironic*, its just *unfortunate*

Make them stop!

― Nick, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How can something be very valid? Indeed we pointed out on Friday that Valid is a term which in its very use is now meaningless. Though I can't remember exactly why.

― Pete, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is this a 'the only objective truth is that there is no objective truth' thing? Maybe the word 'valid', suggesting that there is one universally applicable validity, is therefore, inherently flawed.

Fuck, am I talking out of my elbow this Monday morning or what..?

― Will, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Use other polite coctail chatter please.

― Sterling Clover, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No I can't remember why either. But it's a useless word. Was that when Emma decided she wasn't going to talk ever again?

― Tom, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, it was the moment that Thompson used the word genuflect wrt Melvyn Bragg allowing scientists free reign to talk metaphysics despite cluelessness in the area.

Which looks a lot less clevah when you write it down. I think our main problem was its use in the context of something being a valid argument (cf an argument is an argument regardless of its validity - and yes, you guessed it, there is no objective truth).

― Pete, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

thread wanders wildly. i don't see any problem with the word valid, it's a perfectly good word. without it we wouldn't be able to expose arguments as INvalid. which is surely an important thing to be able to do? an arguments validity or otherwise has nothing to do with reality/truth. or am i just being too much the logician here?

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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