"Mr. Charles Bukowski, America's greatest living poet...the toast of France since he went on their version of the Dick Cavett show drunk, refused to wear translators headphones, asked a literary critic if he could slobber all over he calves on national television, and told the assembled frogmatik culture vultures that they should have dropped a hydrogen bomb on themselves that day in 1961 that Louis-Ferdinand Celine died inasmuch as they had not produced a single writer above Puegeot ad copy since; this man, the author of 33 books...now sat back in his worn swivle chair, relit his stogie, unpopped another colt 45, and surveyed his audience...
'Mr. Bukowski?'
'Yes?'
'Um...we, uh...um...would you suggest writing as a career?'
There's your punch line. Just imagine asking Archie Shepp: 'would you suggest free jazz as a career?' Charles Bukowski worked in the post office, with unpaid overtime, for 14 yrs. straight. Eventually he got desperate enough that one night he stopped off on the way home and bought a fifth of whisky, two six packs of beer, and two packs of cigarettes; as he himself put it later, 'I wanted to be a writer and I was scared.' That night he got dead drunk and wrote 30 pages. The next night he got dead drunk and wrote 40. Most of what he found on the sofa the next morning, a good deal of which you can be sure he had no memory of composing, was not only useable, but good. Literature, even. Many writers try to duplicate experiences like this, since they've bought into the myth that to write well you must be a drunken wretch. I'm glad because most of them are terrible and will wind up on skid row rather than bothering the rest of us in some capacity or another. Bukowski wrote a novel called Post Office in 21 nights. It has been in print for several years and gone through several editions. I've read it five times. It's not one of my favorite works of his. Charles Bukowski does not have a career."
and neither do most of my heroes. (of which bukowski is not necessarily one...maybe when i was a drunken wretch of a college student also nursing the above myth...but you can certainly still substitue les for chuck...and he DIED of all that shit...) is it wrong at "my age" to stil view the entire concept of careerism, the corporate ladder, upward mobility, lateral movement, investing, home and boat ownership...with a (sometimes not so) thinly disguised contempt? should i just grow up, get on with it, start to learn about mortgages and refinancing and iras and tort reform and um, other stuff? should i start giving a toss that i'm wearing dirty jeans and sneakers? should i get a pair of respectible glasses, a "clean" haircut, and stop wearing boots to work? i feel as if i'm drowning in a corporate culture i want nothing to do with...like howard the duck...born into a world i never made...
― jess, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Another question which might be relevant is 'surrounded by other self- avowed iconoclasts, how much of an iconoclast are you really?' I think about this stuff too, Jess, all the time.
Aargh. Back to bed. This is misery-making when I've got my annual harsh cold.
― suzy, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
gah. sorry. d*** p*****l ellipse attack there.
i suppose i'm just being a whiny twentysomething bitch, pulling a cliched post-adolescent "look at my life" deal, but it's been quite bothering me as of late. i really do feel like i'm at the threshhold of entering into a world which would render me inside out of what i feel like i really "am". but i don't know exactly what to fill my life with otherwise. or if i'm really just being a child and should get on the ball. i'm tired and i'm probably making even less sense than the original post now.
mind you, you have to be 100% prepared to live precariously, off govt benefits and grants, and shitty jobs, and put up with sneering relatives and firends who look at you askanse and ask what the fuck, but hey, you have conviction and cred on yr side, when you say I'm a writer....yr creating art, they're creating suburban sprawl, not that there's anything _worn_with that per se, but if it's not yr life, it's not.
― Geoff, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― maryann, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I must admit that the idea of living as a starving writer scares me more than the idea of living as a lifeless corporate automaton. Granted, those aren't realistic images, but try convincing me of that. I'm going to go read some Frank O'Hara while listening to Elliott Smith, dreaming of something MORE, more than this suburban 2.5-kids raised-ranch clean-cut grass cul-de-sac my inner Little Shit fears so. Pardon my pretentiousness.
Actually, thanks to Jess' beautiful simile, I'll be thinking of Lea Thompson. Hum daddy.
― David Raposa, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
My main problem with my career isn't that I feel it's not 'me' (it's not me, but it gives me the cash I need to enjoy being me the rest of the time) or that I feel its stopping me being a writer (that'd be my indiscipline, and besides I'm happy with what I've achieved so far), but the feeling that what I'm doing is utterly, absolutely, pointless. So I'm thinking of a change of career, maybe trying to go work for an NPO. But that's another thread for me to start sometime.
― Tom, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'd prefer it if my 'day job' had some kind of connection to what I want to do 'for real' and luckily make enough to live on without having a 9 to 5 gig of some kind. I don't make a good subordinate so the daily grind doesn't work for me, but most of the stuff people buy to be the real them out of office hours (books and records) is sent to me two months before it's released and the rest of it doesn't really preoccupy me if I don't have it. The only pro to day job that I can see is getting paid regularily and on time.
― suzy, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Will, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― katie, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)