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This is being shown on Irish TV every Monday night. It's dreadful! Is this really popular over in Australia? Does anyone find this funny? It also likes to think its pretty sophisticated, which angers me even more.

― Michael B, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago)

oh ploise

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I can't stand it.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago)

haha i can't either. it seems to have entered the general consciousness down here though..

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago)

i am almost entirely sure it doesn't think it's sophisticated.

― purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago)

God yeah, its meant to be a pisstake of everything stupid and slovenly and dumb about suburban aussies. I can't see how any level of sophistication would come into it.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago)

This is interesting - more Irish opinions please.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago)

It's a tad controversial here: beaten up by the Andrew Bolts of this world as a 'typical AB-friggin-C' piss-take of the Ordinary Aussie Battler by the Cultural Elite.

But then again, to those sorts of people, so is all in life.

Personally, as a fully paid-up card-carrying member of the C.E. referred to above, I find K&K about as funny as a strangulated hernia.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago)

Andrew Bolt should have a large splintery wooden spike shoved up his nether regions. The man is a repulsive lying horror.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago)

At the Melbourne Writers Festival just finished, Andrew Wilkie made several references to Bolt at various times, and just the way he spat out the name said it all.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:05 (twenty years ago)

The BackBerner people all swear blind that when they conceived their 'Dexter Pinion' character they had never clapped eyes on Andrew Bolt, but the resemblance is so uncanny it can't be pure coincidence.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:08 (twenty years ago)

I quite enjoy Kath & Kim; the class gags strike me as more of a veneer than anything else. The real attraction (for me) is Kim's pathological viciousness and manipulativeness.

It's not nearly as good as the peerless, pivotal Big Girl's Blouse though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago)

My sister, who is by all other accounts a very intelligent, articulate person, now talks like Kath and/or Kim constantly, which is really not good. A few good lines here and there, but ugh, people, please STOP IRONICALLY TALKING LIKE AN OUTER SUBURBAN DAG BECAUSE IT IS NOT FUNNY WHEN YOU DO IT ALL k thx bye.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago)

That I can definitely agree with.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago)

I hated that show even before all it's "look at moy" phrases entered the vernacular. I hope there aren't going to be any more series.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago)

Quite similar to The Office in terms of making viewers uncomfortable with the "little bit too close to home" humour. It is much more orchestrated and gimmicky though, so not as good.

― rainy (rainy), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago)

gem, prepare yourself for disappointment: new series starts once the ABC finishes running the old episodes on at the moment.

― Shady Loch Lenin (haitch), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was funny before all these fucking idiots started imitating it. Why do people do that shit?

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago)

noooo shady... it seemed like it was fading from everyday "kimmie" comments around here of late. it will be revisited with a new series. makes me glad i work on thursday nights.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago)

i love this show, tim finney hit the nail on the head.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago)

i quite like it. i really like kath's "great hunk of spunk" kel. i hated The Castle though...which mines somewhat similar areas?

― tinydemons, Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:06 (twenty years ago)

mully's back!

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago)

just a quick break from the toilet

― tinydemons, Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago)

I have to admit Ive barely watched the show, but my bias comes from a huge indifference to Magda Subanski and an active dislike of Gina Riley and that other one.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:13 (twenty years ago)

of course saying a 'typical AB-friggin-C' piss-take of the Ordinary Aussie Battler by the Cultural Elite might say a lot about who your parents are, who their friends are, where you were brought up etc. cos dangnabbit my home looks a lot like kath's and my dad used to dress a lot like kel.

― mullygrubber, Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago)

also to answer Michael...its on the ABC = of course its NOT popular!

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:27 (twenty years ago)

i must admit that though i say i hate it i've only seen the show a couple of times too as i found the accents and jokes really grating. i have very little patience for almost any television though so it might not even be a reflection on this show in particular - more a reflection on television full stop. also it worries me a bit that other people feel like that when i talk as i have an incredibly broad australian accent.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:29 (twenty years ago)

it took me a while to warm to it gem. tim's OTM about kim

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:35 (twenty years ago)

I think it can be very hard to work out which shows like this are nasty towards suburbanites and what aren't, and a lot of it just comes down to the presumed audience (emphasis on presumed; I think it's an erroneous assumption that people only ever watch shows parodying other social groups).

The Castle never received as many vicious attacks as Kath & Kim has, presumably because it's not an elitist ABC production, which is a totally meaningless distinction considering Kath & Kim's creators used to be on Channel 7 and The Late Show was on ABC. The mixture of ridicule and warmth that the two seem to feel for their characters seems to be about equal for me.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 05:59 (twenty years ago)

you liked the castle tim?

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:21 (twenty years ago)

It was complicated. My father was involved in its release and we had all seen it at least twice several months before it came out. Therefore I was subjected to endless rounds of "what do you call this?" at the dinner table and "get your hand off it" about once per hour, long before it became public domain (at which point i had to live through it again with everyone else). I can therefore no longer be objective, but I think I enjoyed it initially.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago)

my viewing/reading of it was complicated too...and in this case a kind of "well, it makes you think", or "fatally incoherent" didn't make me think "well, good."

might've just been that guy with the mo though who went on to cash in on his persona in ads.

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago)

Its occasionally great. The wedding episode was BONZER.

― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Thursday, 2 September 2004 08:24 (twenty years ago)

strangulated hernia

hahaha!

I enjoyed lots of Kath & Kim. I really enjoyed The Castle a lot. I aqm English, so perhaps there's an element of cultural tourism at work here.

Best K&K episode = the wedding one by a country mile: (throwing rice at the bride and groom post-ceremony "you're not supposed to cook it, darl..."

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:52 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Kath & Kim is one of the few sitcoms I've seen recently that had me laughing out loud. At times it seems almost like an extended Aussie version of Abigail's Party - its humour very much focuses on issues of class and taste.

Then again, the fact that a lot of people now seem to want to demonstrate their comedian credentials by quoting it ("Look at moie, look at moie, look at mmooooiiiieee, ploise,") does tend to devalue it somewhat.

Apparently Kylie Minogue has a cameo role at some point in the new series.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...

I think it's great... My friend and I (take note that we are only 14), have a catch phrase that we just say randomly throughout the week from the weeks episode of Kath and Kim. Last weeks was "Aw Sharon... Your towels fallen off" where they go to the Melbourne Cup. This weeks is "And you know why... Cause she/I'm/you're a bitch" which is said by Brett's mother who is in hospital.

Anyway, it's a very humerous television show and is quite popular here in Australia.

― Jess M., Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

the truth is that this show is the truth when it comes to the HELL of australian suburbia, bitch

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

quite popular here in Australia

Popular with FOOLS.

― Bombed Out and Depleted / Kate (papa november), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

i used to feel a fairly moderate distaste for this show. recently that has deteriorated into outright hatred. i can't stand it. and apart from its lack of funniness (to me anyway), when i do catch bits of it i feel like a mean bitch for participating in its special brand of nastiness. maybe that makes me a humourless cow but i don't care.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

We in ESTONIA recently have started watching this programme because broadcasts of this programme have started in ESTONIA.

It is very popular in ESTONIA and we like it because Australia suburbia is like ESTONIA suburbia and Australia is quite like ESTONIA. And we in ESTONIA think it is funny.

― Piotr Skut, Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

If Australia is quite like Estonia, why don't we have an equivalent of Vanilla Ninja? Or kohuke?

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

I really liked the two episodes I saw, and I totally wasn't expecting to. It just works!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

I quite like it and it can actually be quite clever. It's only a satire people -- isn't it the whole point that the characters do represent about 80% of the population if not in a highly exaggerated and camp manner???

― saleXander / sophie (salexander), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

yes probably. i felt the same way (a bit awkward and mean) about the office and everyone i know thought that was hilariously funny too. maybe i just lack a sense of humour.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think it can be very funny! the entire cast is excellent. to me it's the australian 'king of the hill' if perhaps a bit more histrionic

― minna (minna), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

The attacks on elites, art types and rich snobs in the last season were so much nastier (and funnier, really) than the comparatively affectionate digs at Kath, Kim and friends, and I hope they do more stuff like hat in any future episodes.

The two women with steel wool hair who work at the homeware gift store (obviously an homage to Minimax, specifically the store on Malvern Road) were evil and brilliant.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

GABBO
GABBO

GABBO

― GABBO, Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

tru and pru!!

― minna (minna), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it.

Doesn't the horse try to shag her on her wedding day? Or was that a dream?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it does. i think because she accidently gets a wig caught on her that makes her look like a horses arse.

― minna (minna), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. You see? Classic.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

i was totally in hysterics at kim watching kel hiding the le snaks

― minna (minna), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

tim's right that big girls blouse is the best tho. MICHAEL DOUGLAS!!

― minna (minna), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sadly that follow-up sketch show was really piss-poor.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

The two women with steel wool hair who work at the homeware gift store (obviously an homage to Minimax, specifically the store on Malvern Road)

they actually exist???

a kath & kim movie is being prepared at the moment, for those that don't know.

― haitch to the izz-o (haitch), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

"they actually exist???"

They really, really do.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I love this show.

But the other night, there was one on, and I thought it was terrible. They go to the horses and get so drunk they puke; Sharon (the fat one?) swoons for a bounder jockey; they did the homewares gift store shop assistants and kept losing the accent completely. Did this show have a big drop-off or was that just a duff episode?

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 September 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago)

I don't remember that one being duff. It's even more specifically referential than usual though b/c it's so much about the Melbourne Cup and its peculiarity as a sporting/social event.

Key moment in that episode is how the crucial difference between kath/kim and rachel griffiths is that the latter pukes with style.

― Tim F, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:57 (seventeen years ago)

I think that is one of the only K&K eps Ive even seen! That was from a couple years back wasn't it?

― Trayce, Friday, 14 September 2007 07:12 (seventeen years ago)

Haha, a Pitor Skut post in this thread!

It still is a disturbingly accurate portrait of the emptiness and despair of outer suburban Australia. Rapidly declining in the humour stakes mind you, and that was even before the move to Channel 7.

― King Boy Pato, Friday, 14 September 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago)

ok, last night's episode totally restored my faith in kath and kim. it's the "meat retreat" one

i think i may be kel

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

So apparently this is being remade for US tv with Selma Blair and Molly Shannon? Not having seen the original, I don't really know what to anticipate. But if Molly Shannon as Kath plays a typical "Molly Shannon" character, I won't make it to the second episode.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 05:35 (seventeen years ago)

it will be terrible

― wilter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 05:36 (seventeen years ago)

i think i may be kel

― haitch, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

I cannot picture Selma Blair playing an overweight, tarty bint, I really find it difficult, but apparently she rocks a muffin top and way too small clothes and stuff...

― Trayce, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 06:22 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

this is kinda bad, isn't it? but i do like selma.

― santa fe springs eternal (get bent), Friday, 17 October 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

i love both these women! i kinda don't even want to know how bad it is.

― goole, Friday, 17 October 2008 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

It's a strange show... Seems like it's trying to be a bit each of Arrested Development, The Office, and what someone's idea of an Arrested Development/Office combo would be.

And yeah, Selma Blair kinda runs away with it here.

― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 October 2008 06:30 (sixteen years ago)

After hearing about how terrible this show is from several different angles, I was shocked at how much I laughed at it. Selma and Molly are both pretty brilliant in it.

― Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 17 October 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago)

I only watched the end of last nights but it seemed much better than the week before.

And i know kim's shiny pink tights/gold top outfit was supposed to be trashy but i thought it looked CUET.

― DC Purrman (sunny successor), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

this show is pretty bad. it seems like one-camera sitcoms have kind of moved from "we don't have a laugh track, those things are so lame" to "we don't have jokes, those things are so lame."

― some dude, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:35 (sixteen years ago)

i'll chime in and say the leads are decent (i've always though Shannon was decent. not familiar with Blair, AFAICR), but the rest was eh. a lot of the writing and delivery was awkward. and not in a good or purposeful way, imo.

― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

i've always though Shannon ~~was decent~~

i've always thought Shannon could be funny, rather

― flyover statesman (will), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

i love u selma balir

― max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

The reveal of The Flying Wedge was some serious wtf television.

― Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Last night wasn't bad.

"Wow, old guy fight!"

"Yeah I know."

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

I kind of love this show.

― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 14 November 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

sooo so hard to imagine this anywhere but australia

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 November 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

i suppose i shall just have to obtain it

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 November 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

I watched last night's episode. It had some okay moments. Never seen the original.

― polyphonic, Friday, 14 November 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

"Two big eyebrows."

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 November 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

I watched part of this. The really big difference is that American television just. Cannot. Make a sitcom. With cheap-looking sets. The whole thing of the OG Kath and Kim is the general cheapness of their surroundings, their aspirations, their whole world. It really jars to see it transposed to a tasteful coffe-shop vibe with perfect lighting, good makeup and good hair.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

Not having seen the Aussie version, what is it about this show that is "trademarked" so that the US developers couldn't have made it with a name change and not bother paying monies to the originators?

― Philip Nunez, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

Well the two main characters are called Kath and Kim, it would be pretty easy to spot!

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 November 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

Rache and Roz

― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Friday, 21 November 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

if you liked K&K you might like this:

http://www.youtube.com/charityshopsue

― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:57 (five years ago)

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