Random 10: Random Films for Comment - Week 4 (with a Bonus 10!)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
741. Le brasier ardent, 1923 (dir. Ivan Mozzhukhin)
2903. Monsoon Wedding, 2001 (dir. Mira Nair)
3328. The Pirate, 1948 (dir. Vincente Minnelli)
3216. Pakeezah, 1971 (dir. Kamal Amrohi)
1195. Daybreak (Tianming), 1933 (dir. Sun Yu)
305. Las apariencias enganan, 1983 (dir. Jaime Humberto Hermosillo)
4260. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, 1974 (dir. Michael Cimino)
3589. Rollover, 1981 (dir. Alan J. Pakula)
4282. The Tingler, 1959 (dir. William Castle)
4046. A Summer Experience, 1983 (dir. Zhuangzhuang Tian)

Eh. Needs a bonus 10.

4706. Yeelen (Brightness), 1987 (dir. Souleymane Cisse)
3258. Patlabor 2, 1993 (dir. Mamoru Oshii)
3202. Out of the Inkwell, 1918 (dir. Max and Dave Fleischer)
4656. Wings of Honneamise, 1987 (dir. Hiroyuki Yamaga)
1272. The Devil Is a Woman, 1935 (dir. Josef von Sternberg)
4382. Trust, 1990 (dir. Hal Hartley)
1605. Fishing with John, 1991 (dir. John Lurie)
3305. Philadelphia, 1993 (dir. Jonathan Demme)
3496. The Red Balloon, 1956 (dir. Albert Lamorisse)
4085. Sweetie, 1989 (dir. Jane Campion)

Much better.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago)

ILF Edition

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 5 September 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Monsoon Wedding - this was good but a bit...overrated? I thought the abuse subplot was a bit slack and somewhat forced, but the subplot with the wedding planner and the maid was great. Also, did anyone really give a damn about the actual couple to be married?

The Devil Is a Woman - absolutely perfect von Sternberg/Dietrich form. Screw what everyone says about films like The Scarlet Empress and so on, this is their greatest collaboration. An interesting film that easily can be read either as pro or anti-feminist.

Fishing with John - Matt Dillon's episode sucks, Jarmusch's is fun, Willem Dafoe's is classic, and Dennis Hopper's two are just typically okay Hopper craziness. But it's the Tom Waits one that takes the cake. This show is like watching the ancestor of I'm with Busey.

Philadelphia - Ah, the beginning of the end for Tom Hanks. Wherein he leaves his comedic greatness for the aspiration of a "serious" actor. He succeeds well here - the Oscar for Best Actor remains a good pick after ten years - but from here we go on to suffer all the pretentious self-important stuff afterwards, with a few exceptions. It's not worth discussing which ones fall into the pretentious or exception categories, b/c everyone will call them differently, but nonetheless I think we can all agree that there's a lot more pretentious crap in that grouping...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 6 September 2004 09:15 (twenty years ago)

"wings of honeamise" is well animated considerign there were no compuetrs involved and the jet versus propeller plane dogfihgts are awesoem but i never understood what the climatcic space travel was all about. why that ended the war or whatever.

:|, Monday, 6 September 2004 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Um, the ending of "Wings of Honneamise" didn't claim the war ended, it was more of a philosophical comtemplation on humanity and what drives humans to achieve things. Anyway, it's a very good film, slow tempo and melancholic, way different from your run-of-the-mill anime.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I'm gonna have to check this film out.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 6 September 2004 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Monsoon Wedding - thought it was good, if a little cheesy, but it probably could have been improved by making it at least an hour longer, like some sprawling Altman-esque ensemble movie. The little subplots needed more time to develop (totally agree about the abuse subplot being a bit forced.)

Wings of Honneamise - it's been a dozen years since I've seen it, and 1) I can't remember a speck of the plot, 2) I remember the artistry being really amazing, 3) somehow the phrase "Japanese Right Stuff" popped into my head. Tuomas is right - I can't think of another anime offering like it.

Trust - the only Hal Hartley movie I've seen. It's okay. I guess moody teens/twenty-somethings are supposed to relate to the cynical repairman, but he's really kind of an asshole. I don't think I agree with the central theme, though, that "admiration, respect, and trust equal love."

The Red Balloon - it's only 30 minutes long, it's ridiculously twee (being French, involving lots of children, and being balloon-themed fer crying out loud), it has almost no dialogue (yet it won the Oscar for best original screenplay! No kidding!), and the balloon special effects are state of the art. After you see this, you must see the Don Hertzfeldt animated short film Billy's Balloon.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago)

The best film Tom Hanks ever starred in was 'Splash'.

I am confident in this, despite not seeing most of his films.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago)

If memory serves me right, Sweetie is very good. It's been years since I saw it, but I remember it being a dark sort of a tragicomedy about a dysfunctional family which is totally dominated by a horrendously needy daughter. The story's told from the point of view of their other, more subdued daughter.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago)

The Tingler is hilarious. It's got Vincent Price in, and is based around the truly unhinged idea that a centipede-like creature appears on your spine when you're scared, only to vanish when you scream. Eh?

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Sweetie is indeed very good, especially if you enjoy watching doomed people. I also liked the fact that the "subdued" sister had dendrophobia. Excellent.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Jane Campion - is that the same person that directed The Piano? Loved that film.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 6 September 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The Tingler is hilarious. It's got Vincent Price in, and is based around the truly unhinged idea that a centipede-like creature appears on your spine when you're scared, only to vanish when you scream. Eh?

I remember reading John Waters's comments on the film in his books - Waters loves Castle b/c he was the "king of gimmicks". For The Tingler, every theater seat was rigged with a device which would, well...tingle...seat back at certain moments during the film. Hence the whole idea with the screaming. Worked a charm, I hear.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago)


741. Le brasier ardent, 1923 (dir. Ivan Mozzhukhin)

have seen. is startling but a little too "quirky" for my tastes.


3216. Pakeezah, 1971 (dir. Kamal Amrohi)

awesome. i own this on dvd. everyone should see this.


3202. Out of the Inkwell, 1918 (dir. Max and Dave Fleischer)

the first fleischer cartoon? these are very great.

1272. The Devil Is a Woman, 1935 (dir. Josef von Sternberg)

stunningly designed but i found it kind of uninvolving. same material later used for buñuel's "that obscure object of desire."

4382. Trust, 1990 (dir. Hal Hartley)

one of the great american films.

4085. Sweetie, 1989 (dir. Jane Campion)

an amazing film.


i am lazy so that is all.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:38 (twenty years ago)

1272. The Devil Is a Woman, 1935 (dir. Josef von Sternberg)

This and Dishonored are the only two Sternberg-Dietrich films I haven't seen yet. It's only a matter of time. How do they compare? Though the films all seem like chapters in an anthology, there's a startling amount of stylistic variety among them.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 09:11 (twenty years ago)

How exactly would it be considered anti-Feminist? I know that Blonde Venus might appear to have a pretty retrograde take on the vows of marriage and the rights of single mothers, and the point of the film indeed seems to be the glorification and deification of the "fallen woman," I'd still be hard-pressed to label it anti-feminist.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I think it's just as easy for the film to fall into the typical "evil woman" stereotypes which seemed to be in vogue at the time given the social grapplings with female sexual reassertion which started to be felt in the 1920's. (eg Robert Graves's masterful use of this in the Claudius books to posthumously accuse a woman of a murder-conspiracy which most historians find completely at odds with the facts...which maybe explain why von Sternberg was hired for the failed film adaptation)

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I guess the title isn't The Devil is a Woman for no reason either, right?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago)

The Red Balloon - I saw this when I was about 7 or 8 and immediately began to feel sympathy for inanimate objects, a feeling I've never quite been unable to shake off to this day - but that's another thread

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - better than anything Quentin Tarantino's ever done... better than anything Michael Cimino's ever done too, to be honest

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot Another film I primarily remember (and only vaguely) from its "edited for television" version. Do the Big Three still even bother to run Hollywood films? I haven't noticed it lately.

Rollover For some reason we were riffing on this around the office the other day. I don't remember much about it except Kris Kristofferson, Jane Fonda, and yet another failed attempt to make business and finance exciting on film.

Trust I remember really liking this at the time, but I was a lot younger then. Based on his more recent films, I think I would find it too mannered and backed-up now. Perhaps someday I'll find out.

Philadelphia That acting-out-the-opera-aria scene is just plain embarrassing.

Sweetie I remember loving this movie, but haven't seen it since it first came out on video. I remember being particularly amused by a character who looks and acts a bit like mid-'70s Iggy Pop.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago)

"backed-up"?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Howsabout "constipated," then?

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago)

trust was like the first "real" movie i ever saw on my own, when it opened i dragged a friend to an empty art-house theatre to watch it (someone else was there, cackling maniacally in the dark), it changed my life forever!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago)

you are now a fully integrated personality!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago)

3328. The Pirate, 1948 (dir. Vincente Minnelli)

Unfairly passed over because it was a flop, but it's pretty great and absurd. Lots of "what were they thinking?" moments

4260. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, 1974 (dir. Michael Cimino)

One of my fave movies. Crabby road/heist movie and one of Eastwood's best 1970s roles (next to The Beguiled)

3589. Rollover, 1981 (dir. Alan J. Pakula)

One of the petrospolitation movies that was released in the early 80s that seemed important at the time but is probably laughable now. I'll take The Formula for my oil company conspiracy flick.

4282. The Tingler, 1959 (dir. William Castle)

William Castle + Vincent Price + LSD = ULTRAUNBELIEVABLY CLASSIC

4382. Trust, 1990 (dir. Hal Hartley)

Enh, other people will comment on this.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 05:36 (twenty years ago)

Wings of Honneamise -
i remember when seeing this for the first time how unexpected and oddly affecting it was - one of those films that didn't hit hard initially but just niggled away for ages afterwards, leaving a feeling of slightly puzzled affection that grows into a sense of....'caring' about it

i watched it with someone yrs later who described it as 'wistful' - a word i feared was a bit too swoony but is actually pretty accurate -

Merriam Webster: wistful
Etymology: blend of 'wishful' and obsolete English 'wistly' intently
1 : full of yearning or desire tinged with melancholy; also : inspiring such yearning [a wistful memoir]
2 : musingly sad : pensive

plus plus plus the music over the opening titles (ryuichi sakamoto, i think ?) = great

(i love that some films initially fail to excite/please (or may even disappoint) but then seem to have planted a seed in yr mind that subsequently develops into an appreciation you can't quite explain/justify even to yrself - i guess this is maybe basic 'that's how good stuff works' to some ?)
though i find it happens very rarely :(

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago)

when is trust coming out on dvd anyway? it's one the best hal hartley films!!

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

it's not out?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago)

hartley should do commentary tracks in his unique dialogue style (i'll leave it for somebody else to do the example joke as i am feeling uninspired)

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Week 6

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.