The Original Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition 2004

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― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 10 September 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago)

fucking Lucas added five minutes of shit to THX-1138.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Lucas the Hutt continues to despoil our childhood one little piece at a time. I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps tampering with these films until he dies.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago)

On the upside, it looks like he's corrected more SFX fuckups and made some of the worse 1997 SFX palatable.

Some condensed changes:
- matte lines gone
- better colors
- Dolby EX soundtrack
- better Jabba in A New Hope
- better handling of Greedo/Han shootout
- lightsabers look consistent across the whole series
- more ground battle on Hoth
- Ian McDiarmid now in Empire, with the same lines plus a few more
- Temuera Morrison does the voices of all the stormtroopers
- the 1997 edition Luke scream when falling down the Cloud City shaft has been removed
- revealed Vader has eyebrows removed and eye color changed to match prequels
- end celebrations now include Naboo
- Death Star II actually changes slightly to look like it's actually being constructed
- Hayden Christensen now plays Ghost Anakin at the very end.

Some screenshots

― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 10 September 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago)

why one voice for all of the stormtroopers?

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't care. He should have left them as they were - even the special editions were a step too far for me.

xpost - something to do with them all being clones of Boba Fett's dad.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago)

cf Attack of the Clones

― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 10 September 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago)

that is so ghey.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago)

This would not bother me nearly as much if we could also get the original versions.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago)

sup3rhappyfun has all three transfered from the laserdisc releases, if you really want an original vers. on DVD.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago)

wooden if your childhood memories are so easily despoiled i don't envy them

i kind of have to admire the chutzpah of his gesamtkunstwerkiness

xpost Dan if you could go back in time with a couple of Beta cassettes and show them to the young you.. well you'd have yourself a way to make money at the horse races every day

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago)

I've never managed to sit through one of these all the way. I'm OK with sci-fi, like blockbusters, but these bore me senseless. At least the new ones have Natalie Portman in ridiculous attire (oh hey, my shirt accidentally ripped right across my midriff!).

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago)

oh and thx-1138, is that the one where lucas ate a couple of anthony burgess novels and some george orwell and smeared the resultant shit directly onto celluloid?

― Now That's Despoiling (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago)

You're thinking of American Graffiti.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago)

This would not bother me nearly as much if we could also get the original versions.

...which is where I step in to say, look for these if you can find them:

http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg5.html

I have a Star Wars copy from this set -- and mighty glad I am too.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:18 (twenty years ago)

end celebrations now include Naboo

This actually bugs me in that I sorta wanted Episode III to have Anakin torching the planet in a fit of pique.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to torch all of you in a fique of pit if you don't stop wasting precious moments on planet earth talking about Gerge Lucas. It all happened a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away! Get over it!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that was unfair.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Shouldn't you be in bed sleeping off strawberry lambics and fried fish fingers?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that was unfair.

Yeah, especially to Gerge Lucas, whoever the hell he is.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 10 September 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago)

B-B-But FFS Lucas really doesn't get it does he?
Now he's changing shit in the original trilogy so it conforms to the horseshit prequel trilogy? What a jackass.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago)

I AM PUTTING MY PRECIOUS HOURS TO USE BY TALKING ABOUT GERGE ULAKS FOR PRENISDET.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago)

Wait, ARE you back in America? Shouldn't the ground be trembling and the sky boiling or something?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago)

- Hayden Christensen now plays Ghost Anakin at the very end.

this is stupid beyond belief.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Star Wars genetics, as performed by emo scientists:
http://www.coldbacon.com/pics/lucas1.gif

― Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 10 September 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago)

i hear they're going to remove that kisses leia gives luke in 'star wars' ans 'empire' because of the whole bro/sis thing that was blatantly made up for jedi.

i also hear that harrison ford's face is gonna be rplaced by jimmy smits. digitally.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago)

"if you don't step the fuck outta my way i am going to replace your face" flexes fist "digitally"

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Actually, this little observation on the review site also bugs:

There are also a couple minor changes - the shot of Coruscant now includes the Jedi Temple on the horizon.

Man, fuck that. I wanted the Temple to go down in flames in Episode III, why the hell would the Emperor even want it around?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Ned i'm in London for some reason

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago)

Amazing. So, fish fingers?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago)

is that what they're calling it these days?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago)

yes. digitally.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago)

fish fingers are for the ruder sort of people, ned. prawns with thousand island dressing served in a sundae glass is what polite people eat.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago)

You guys really care about this shit? The content of the films is hardly changing at all.

Yeah, it would be nice to have a copy of the original cut of each film, but I'm all for the revising of this stuff. It's his life's work, for fuck's sake. Can you imagine how much it would piss you off to have all these glaring inconsistencies everywhere? I'm really looking forward to having Episodes 1-6 marathon in the near future.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Andrew is the new Momus.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure Momus wouldn't really get into Star Wars.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago)

(Actually, I pretty well fall between Dan and Andrew on this whole thing. And since I have the original Star Wars at least, fuck, bring on the revisions!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago)

at least they haven't fuck with indy (yet)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago)

please substitute the past-tense of "fuck" in that sentence

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago)

If I ever see George Lucas in the street, I will fucking hogtie him and call him ma'am, fucking Greedo shoots first and walking around Jabba the Hut. That is so sick and twisted and perverse.

xpost they need to fuck with the Temple of Doom and digitally replace Kate Capshaw with, oh, anyone else in the world.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago)

they're changing back the greedo thing i heard.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago)

ok agreed on that one (xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago)

xpost they need to fuck with the Temple of Doom and digitally replace Kate Capshaw with, oh, anyone else in the world.

They need to fuck with a LOT of things in that film.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago)

keep the monkey brains though!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:32 (twenty years ago)

Things to fuck with in Temple of Doom:

- Shockingly blatant racism
- Kate Capshaw
- The whole "Indy is evil for like 5 minutes" sequence

Actually they just need to replace the entire thing and set it in some Nazi dominated situation again, because obviously that's what works for Indiana Jones.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm looking forward to see if they're actually getting rid of the matte lines and other fx mistakes this time.

the thing that REALLY bothered me more than anything with the first special edition changes was that they tacked on all this this superfluous stuff and din't really fix the original FX much.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago)

Things to fuck with in Temple of Doom:

Make Dan Ackroyd's part longer than two lines and a quick over-the-shoulder camera shot.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

i don't remember the evil indy sequence!

really they could just chop off the movie after the shanghai nightclub opening

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

oh and the mine-cart chase!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

Fix the fucking BAD music in the temple ceremony scene.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

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I can't believe I just bought this. I feel kinda dirty. There were alot of fun nerds at BestBuy at lunchtime (including myself).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.trigger.is/fun/nerd_wedding.gif

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago)

The chain of stores my brother GMs has been selling them since last Wed. when the order from DeepD*scount arrived. One of his competitors bought a set and tried to sic Luc*sArts on the chain. Their intimidation attempts were kind of sad, from what I've heard - revoking seller accounts (despite the chain doing no business with LA, threatening him unless he told them who he ordered from. Finally he had to hang up on their rep.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago)

All of that CG crap during the Mos Eisley scenes is really awful.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I kinda feel glad I spent the money on the Pixies instead.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago)

rented empire last night (and 'a new hope' the night before), the image quality on these new dvds is astounding. there's virtually no grain and the colors stand out really nicely. i've noticed they changed the english lettering on all the machinery and devices in 'a new hope' to match the star wars-universe writing in the other movies.

otherwise they're still the same special editions, love 'em or hate 'em.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 10:20 (twenty years ago)

um excuse me did anyone notice that in that interview george lucas sez he's taking the franchise to TELEVISION?!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Pimp My AT-ST

― teh pow! (blueski), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:04 (twenty years ago)

There was a news story on that the other day, Slocki -- I thought I linked it upthread?

It should just be nothing but Holiday Specials, of course.

It's the Star Wars Arbor Day Special, Charlie Brown!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)

They were playing them on all floors in the mahoosive Oxford St HMV yesterday, and I was wandering around in a daze absently lipsynching with the dialogue while I pawed sale DVDs. Somebody shoot me right now.

However, the image quality is BEAUTIFUL. Christmas is coming oh yes my precioussssss.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I might watch all four discs this weekend - maybe the two prequels as well.

― teh pow! (blueski), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago)

You sick bastard.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago)

actually the only way i would have time to do all that was if i was indeed ill

― teh pow! (blueski), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Watched pretty much everything on disc four last night, and it's almost all fantastic, and worth £30 on its own. Then made a start on the episode IV commentary track. Favourite bit so far is lucas explaining the reason the old "But parsecs are a unit of distance, not time!" complaint is wrong - because in hyperspace, everyone's going at the same speed, so the fastest ship is the one that can plot the shortest route without hitting anything. When velocity is constant, distance equals time. So if you can make the kessel run in under twelve parsecs, that means you're the 'quickest'.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Aw, silly poofy-head Georgie-pie. Bless his evil heart.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Lame answer, George.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago)

George, you just hurt my brain.

― robster (robster), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Where is the line to kick George Lucas in the nuts?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago)

hahaha Dan Perry OTM.

This thread makes me wanna buy it though ;(

― Richard K (Richard K), Friday, 24 September 2004 04:42 (twenty years ago)

There was a news story on that the other day, Slocki -- I thought I linked it upthread?

It should just be nothing but Holiday Specials, of course.

LIFE DAY!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I have ordered 'The Complete Rising Damp' instead.

Here are some connections between Star Wars and Rising Damp:

Leonard Rossiter is in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

In an episode of Rising Damp, Philip teaches Rigsby how to waft burning 'love wood'. This scene was later recreated almost frame by frame by George Lucas for the scene where Obi-Wan Kenobi teaches Luke Skywalker how to wield a light sabre.

I can't think of any more.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago)

hahaha Dan Perry OTM.
This thread makes me wanna buy it though ;(

-- Richard K (billycorga...), September 24th, 2004.

give in to the dark side...

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago)

The big documentary on disc 4 is, surprisingly, well-done and interesting - especially all the details concerning the problems they had making the first movie. It's fascinating watching things like the sound effects guy (who is incredible) invent the sound for blasters by twanging barbed wire.

The best part, though, are the outtakes where you hear Peter Mayhew deliver Chewbacca's lines before they dubbed in the roars: "That old man is mad!" (And also David Prowse delivering Vader's lines in a Scottish accent.)

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago)

The documentary was on Bravo! a couple of weekends ago; it was GREBT (and you've picked out the highlights).

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)

SURRENDER DOROTHY
ihttp://www.goldengategarrison.com/albums-ggg/calkinswed/Image076.sized.jpg

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago)

That whole directory is too much.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure the father of the bride was thrilled when he learned of the Star Wars/Wizard of Oz crossover wedding plans.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Does that mean that Luke is her brother?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Peter Mayhew's hair is really gnarly.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago)

ALL these pics are great:

http://www.goldengategarrison.com/gallery/albums.php

looks like San Fran has its own crew of Star Wars cosplay dorks

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

why is jabba in star wars SO SMALL?!
-- s1ocki (slytus...), September 10th, 2004.

did we/anyone ever settle this?

how many years is there between the 1st and last films?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

why is jabba in star wars SO SMALL?!
-- s1ocki (slytus...), September 10th, 2004.

did we/anyone ever settle this?

how many years is there between the 1st and last films?
could he have *eaten* that much, is that it?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

They're back:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060504/en_usatoday/starwarsgoesbacktobasics

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'll stick with my bootlegs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Well, since everyone doesn't have bootlegs this is good news.

― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

how so?

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Norris.

― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'll stick with my copy of "Triumph of the Will" thanks.

― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

fucking Greedo shoots first

i just found out about that change. SHAMEFUL.

― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

as one of the few here who saw the original in '77, I hate to reveal it was black & white and silent.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

George Lucas takes on new role: Storm Trooper action figure
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Not that long ago, in a nearby galaxy, George Lucas joined forces with the dark side. The Star Wars creator has become a Storm Trooper.
Hasbro, maker of Star Wars toys, is paying plastic tribute to Lucas, interpreting him as a limited-edition action figure in Storm Trooper attire.
The head of the toy maker’s Star Wars division called Lucas “the greatest character in the universe.”
“We took a cue from when Han Solo and Luke disguised themselves as Storm Troopers,” said Derryl DePriest, marketing director and admitted lifelong Star Wars fan. “We placed George in his own universe that he created.”
This is the first time Lucas has been honoured with an official Star Wars action figure, DePriest said, but not the first time his likeness has been used. Hasbro had previously issued a figure that looked like Lucas called George Sacul.
“That was very subtle,” DePriest said. “This time we really wanted to pay tribute to the man himself.”
Lucas thought it was a “fun” idea, said Lucasfilm spokeswoman Lynne Hale.
“He laughed because he never imagined he’d be a Storm Trooper,” she said.
The new toy is only available to participants in Hasbro’s Ultimate Galactic Hunt. Fans must show proof of purchase of five vintage Star Wars action figures to get the George Lucas Storm Trooper figurine.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Stormtroopers can't gave old man guts.

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

'The individual DVDs will be taken off the market on Dec. 31, a strategy that Disney uses on many of its classic releases.'

Really?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

GREAT news.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

extras? like maybe the old 1978 making of star wars documentary?

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

A this point I'd say lucas is willing to release xmas special if he thinks he could make 40 bucks a pop off it.

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/lucas.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

c. 1977

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Toy of Lucas c. 2006:

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-conce/concept-jabba-3.jpg

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

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