How would people feel about doing a Gmail muisc exchange tree?

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'Cos I can't use slsk, here. And because I've loads of stuff that I think is awesome, and that I'd really love to send people, but I don't really have an excuse for doing so...

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

(I guess the way I'm imagining it working isn't so much a tree as, like, people just sending out mp3s to the list with enticing descriptions whenever they feel like, for people to download or not as they choose).

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds good.

― C J (C J), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait - can you htmlize a link to a file stored in a gmail account? How's that work? Seems a bit odd.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get why one'd need to, really! I was imagining this working with boring old attachments - the "download or not as they choose" comes from it being all webmailish, so I don't see what'd be the problem. (I could be wrong about all of this obv.)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ohh! Of course. I'm overthinking things, I suspect :)

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

One must keep in mind tho that you can only send 10mb at a time (ie per email) to a gmail account or it bounces it.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 September 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i will

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I started a thread on ILM for this the other week - if people just list tracks they'd like to be sent or describe the kind of thing they'd like to hear then people can just mail them it.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem i'd like to hear your nates cdr challenge you fucker!

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

heh, but don't post it to my gmail addy ;)

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

you can send music files over AIM too.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

gaz if you there's any particular tracks you wanna hear from that then mail me

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

we could set up a open-access gmail account - ie post the username and login details here and then everyone could use it, with the proviso that someone would delete tracks every week. not sure how many you could have in the inbox at one time..

― Jay G (jaybob79), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

jay G took the words out of my mouth.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i also have a spare gmail invite that i would be happy to use for this if people are up for it...

― Jay G (jaybob79), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what should be the username?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ilxmp3

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

yawn@gmail.com

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

robotsvsdinosfite is better i reckon

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

kencistehgaye@gmail.com it is

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

stop calling cis gay you big meanie!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, where is the ilm thread?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I slightly prefer the idea of a mailing list to a free access inbox, 'cos then we could praise stuff and get mail and what's not to love about mail? People with less free time/more mail already might disagree though...

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

this sounds like a great id'er

― dysøn (dyson), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(If anyone would like in but hasn't got gmail at the moment, I'm totally happy to send invites, incidentally).

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd be interested in doing this as a lurker...i'll probably very rarely have anything to contribute, but really enjoy getting new stuff to listen to. is that too greedy?

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Not at all! Like, as far as I understand it, it would take as much time to send the same attachment to 30 people as 10, so lurkers seem like a greatness to me.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm interested. is this the place to make requests?

who can send me annie's "the greatest hit" & "chewing gum" so I can whine about them?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Jay G great idea.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

www.yousendit.com allows you to upload a file up to 1GB in size and then gives you a link so that a certain (unspecified) number of people can download it.

Maybe you can use that, or not

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

So whats the verdict - one account we can all access, or something like this thread where people say "please send X someone?" and they get sent it? Or both? Either work for me. I too have loads of left over gmail invites...

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i am pretty useless at saying THIS IS WHAT I WANT. I quite like the original idea where someone says "hey: this is good" and then if you want it you can say "yes please" (although obv i have nothing against the idea of people asking for stuff)

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Kinda like Livejournal's Talkee Walkee?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm with gaz, here - I'd feel silly saying SEND ME X, BITCHES, plus I figure I'd miss out on a bunch of great stuff that I wouldn't know I liked until I heard it.

I like the idea of a shared account, too, it's neat. I'd still slightly prefer the original plan, because it might feel a bit more like a community - with one account it might feel like you were uploading stuff into a faceless void, and you couldn't really get an idea what stuff people were really digging. But I'm fine with whatever.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I am kinda worried this idea will slowly fall apart due to my ineffectual girly-man indecisive non-leadership and fade away despite loads of people thinking it's a pretty good idea.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm well how about this: we keep the thread alive by posting occasional lists saying "this week on the st3alz0r gmail account..." and then people go for it?

One drawback - wouldnt want to disseminate any pwds via posting them here I dont think, in case of g00glers etc?

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ok hit me whatya got????

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe we should have some sort of poll? I'll check it in twenty-four hours, and do whatever gets the most votes...

OPTION A: Original plan - we make a list of adresses. To upload a song, one sends it as an attachment to a message sent to EVERYONE on the list, which could have a header format like "[stealzor] Who feelin' some MILLI VANILLI?" or something, to differentiate it from non-list messages. I like this because there could also be messages, also to this list, which didn't have songs at all, but praised other peoples', OR asked for specific things, so it kinda incorporates the request idea.

OPTION B: Shared Gmail Account - wouldn't clutter up our inboxes, or fill up our space. Also simpler to adminster maybe? But we'd need to keep this thread up in tandem. I kinda suspect this might die away a bit quicker too?

OPTION C: We just keep this thread alive, and ask for specific things/ cool things people reckon we might like.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I am votin' A, but I'm totally happy to administer B or C if people want me too, 'cos like hey, FREE MUSIC... (Um not that C takes administering)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I like a combo of A and C, myself.

I might just start things off by asking if anyone has a copy of "Stuart" by the Dead Milkmen and if so can they send it to trayce -at- gmail.com

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Just what we need, more polls. ; )

I don't really have an opinion on the options though, so I'll shut up.

But first! s1sk has been lame for downloading recently, so can someone hook me up with the Cocteau Twins' "Summerhead" and Mira Calix's Pin Skeeling EP?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Option B cuz then you don't have to worry about having your inbox fill up with mp3s while you're on vacation or in rehab or whatever.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

howzabout like a list of addys developed here and then used as a kind of mailing list for requests/offers offboard.

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I can send you the Cocteaus song Lee! I just have to get it off my CD from home first (ie later tonite).

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah!

This is option C in action.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Email my gmail account as a reminder coz otherwise knowing me, I'll forget :(

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume not to the spamspanker -- what is your real one?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh whoops. trayce at gmail, or trace (no y) at connect.net.au

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm for A. the point of gmail accounts is they don't get full innit ;)

(i have a stack of invites too, if anyone else wants to play)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 232 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Invite sent!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Apologies for anyone waiting for List Things To Happen - it's kind of in suspension, waiting to find its place in a new newsgroupy world. It'll re-emerge when a good use shows up, probably.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand any of this talk of news servers and news groups :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Got the invite, Gravel. Much appreciated.

― snazz, Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

andrew i never got an email!!

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew, should I mail the newsgroup details to the list?

I'll probably do this before going to bed, unless explicitly told otherwise.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll probably do this before going to bed, unless explicitly told otherwise.

I hope you did this, if not let me know and I'll send out emails. Sorry, gaz, I didn't see the spamproofing on your email address. I'll send now.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Have now! I go to bed pretty late.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 17 September 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

someone recommend me some newreader software

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 17 September 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

freeagent seems to be the weapon of choice (windows anyway).

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks! now i just have to covince my boss that a standalone broadband connection is essential to my work!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

um, i've since downloaded freeagent myself and don't like it. that's 4 i've tried now... thunderbird, OE, pan, freeagent (oh, and pine). maybe i'm just too fussy 8)

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i also get the feeling that plan A is happily trotting along oblivious to use plan D people (and we're blissfully unaware of them). can anyone act as a bridge between the two, somehow?

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

stealzor gmail account working fine again now...

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

what i really want is just a passworded server in which individuals can upload to their own folder and i can use ftp to grab that shit.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, repost from earlier:

(Can people not use SZ for the next few days, please? I suspect if this happens again there may be Consequences, and it's very tracable back to me (source of invite, first login etc), so I'd appreciate it if we could lick our wounds and work out where we stand now)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i've seen someone with a decent web-based interface to this stuff, works nicely (and isn't the heaving free-for-all you'd expect because it's subscriber only). there's a mechanism for requests and one for uploading and a nice comments box for, er, comments. and everything gets deleted after a specified time.

it's php but i'm not sure whether the bloke wrote it himself or donwloaded it from somewhere.

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, I've changed the stealzor password, because people seem to keep logging into it. We have a newsgroup now! It is very exciting.

(Send an e-mail to someone relevant if you want in - most everyone whose e-mail is on this thread should have an invite already)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

newsgroups suck

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

koogs maybe you would like xnews?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 17 September 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I love it - it's working great for me.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 17 September 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i've decided on outlook (to my shame - thunderbird asks you for a username and password FOR EACH NEWSGROUP which is whack. it also seems to download attachments twice, one when you open the message, again when you save attachment. or does it?).

splitting the descriptions from the actual files has made things a lot easier.

all we need now is for people to post things...

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Count me in, too, if it's not too late (haven't read this whole thread.)

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

How do I get on this?

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Plan A still happening then? I don't understand what a news server is or how I get on one, but if A is still in effect then I would like to sign up to it - not the address below but lexusjeep (at) gmail dot com. Cheers!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Lex, do you have Outlook Express? If not, you could download a newsreader, but I'm not familiar with any of the other ones, so maybe someone else can help you.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah I don't have Outlook Express at the moment and don't know when I will again. I'll bow out of this 'til my own computer gets hooked back up to the internet then...

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Lex, maybe this will help you when you get set up on your own:

newsreaders.com

― Kerry (dymaxia), Sunday, 19 September 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I didn't read the whole thread and couldn't work out why I couldn't log into the fake public gmail account.

For anyone who wants in, I have six invites for gmail. Can I be involved in some way please? ai1sa.wats0n@gmai1.c0m (ungoogleproofed though, obviously),

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 19 September 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone explain in layman's terms how to connect to the newsgroup in Outlook Express? Thanks.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 19 September 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt:

Go to the "Tools" menu, click "Accounts", then click on the "News" tab. "Add" the account. The server name goes in the "News (nntp) server": line

― Kerry (dymaxia), Sunday, 19 September 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...

Is st341z0r effectively kaput?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i haven't been back i must admit :(

― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I still believe.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

A result, of still believing: http://riters.com/stealzor/index.cgi/FrontPage

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

er, how does that work?

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(this is for Plan A. subscriptions and unsubscriptions can be done by editing the page, I think)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree that A and B is better, but we can't have B, google seem cunning.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

When people feel like it, I guess they can just send music to everyone who's indicated that they like free music?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I realise this is far from ideal, I've just been having serious slsk withdrawal lately, grah.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

what i would like best is an actual site divided into sections as follows:

Column A: material requested, followed by no. of requesters and their (googleproof) addresses)...you click an 'add me' link to have your email added to the list of requesters. when you receive the material you click a 'remove me' link (otherwise you might receive it several times).

Column B: material offered, followed by offerer's details

Column C: where you add/edit/remove your requests

combined with a CDR/DVD swap page, this MUST happen...

anyone got mad enough PHP skillz to want to make this with me? or give me a couple of months and i might be able to create it all by myself but no promises...

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like to get involved in this newsgroup situation if possible...
my email adress isn't the one below,its the same without the _ (ie my name is all one word) and its at gmail...
could someone email me details if they get a chance?

― robin (robin), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Are there really only two people interested? I guess that explains why the newsgroup is so quiet. I will e-mail you, robin.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I've set up my newseader to automatically download the headers from Stealzor, but as there doesn't seem to be much activity, and my newsreader only reads (BNR - which I use for it's ability to combine more than one newsfead) I haven't felt compelled to upload. If there was more evidence of people using it I would, because it is a really good idea.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I still check it every other day, just in case, though not necessarily downloading because I've already got the stuff being uploaded. (Thanks koogs anyway!)

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I was away on a couple trips and missed all the hoo-ha about the newsgroup, G00gle's cunning ways, etc...

However I have songs I want to share, and will add myself to the list again. Although I'm soon about to go offline for age

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(oops! let's continue...)

um, I'm going offline for a while starting in December, so I'll only be able to join in the party until then...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"offline forage" i.e. actually going to record shops

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the newsgroup is actually a perfect system - plausibly this should be a "use the newsgroup! it is ace!" thread instead.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I may be of some help providing u p l o a d tracks, if someone would like to email the details to radiofreealbemuth@g m a i l.con

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

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