Social dilema in the street.

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When you are walking alone and see someone you know walking towards you, at what distance should you acknowledge them? This just happened to me when I saw my collegue walking towards me as I came back to the office. If you acknowlege them too soo, over 25-50 metres say, then you then have to sort of keep acknowleging them till you meet up or pass. this involves embarrasing half waves and silly smiles and silent hellos which is okay to do once but is hard to keep up for 30 metres without looking like a twat. And looking like a twat was what i did this time but so it seems, did my collegue. Another way of dealing with it is to pretend you have not seen them till the last minute then saying "good Lord it's..... how are you?" but pretending that you are looking at something not in front of you for that long 30 metres is also a bit unnatural. Being the only white people on the road didn't help this time.

I know that I am a little crap in social situations but am I the only one that has these problems?

Paul Kelly (kelly), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It sucks. I tend to pretend I've not seen them and play with my 'phone until, say, 10 metres.

Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Man they better hurry with those Seinfeld DVDs.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Acknowledge them when you are first aware of them, in whatever manner you like. Maintain a close-mouthed smile until contact. Rinse and repeat.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I normally opt for pretending not to see them til the last minute. It's slightly less rude than acknowledging them from about 30metres then putting your head down and ignoring them as you pass.

Craig Gilchrist, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Run with open arms to greet them. Depending on your speed, it will shorten the length of time spent in twat mode.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

you could do as our resident office twat does - a sort of comedy dodge thing, pretending not to know which way to go. repeat a few times over the 30m, snorting with laughter as you go.

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I usually flee rapidly down a side street to avoid having to make any contact with them.

Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm actually noramlly in a world of my own when i walk down the street so I never really notice anyone. It leaves them in the 'twat' position of shoving a waving hand in your face or shouting your name several times if they really want to say 'hey'. Though it then leaves you in the twat position of being embarrassed at how vacant you can be.

Craig Gilchrist, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha. I know a gobsite who does this. He also winks and does that index finger and thumb gun thing while doing some kind of elaborate side-stepping shuffle.

xpost Gem

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be gobshite

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

probably every office has one penelope!!

xxpost - i quite often don't wear my glasses when i'm strolling around in the street so it's pretty likely i would behave the same as you chris! people often tell me they were waving madly at me in the street and i went blithely on in total ignorance

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Our office doesn't have a Penelope.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

No Penelope in my office either...not even a Penny or a Pen.

Penny Smith in my office would be nice, though ;-)

Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone at my work has to go out and down the road round the corner to get to any shops with food, so on the way there and back you inevitably pass half a dozen workmates going to and from lunch. God, I'm sick of doing the faked smile/wave/hi! half a dozen times each lunchtime!

I am horribly short sighted too, so I am notorious for having friends spot me from way off in the road, wave or shout hi, and I miss them totally.

The other day my best mate and his wife drove past me on Chapel st and were yelling "SCRUBBER!" at me out their car window and it took me ages to realise it was aimed at me, heh. Felt like a dork.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

From the Meaning of Liff:

CORRIEARKLET (n.)
The moment at which two people approaching from opposite ends of a long passageway, recognise each other and immediately pretend they haven't. This is to avoid the ghastly embarrassment of having to continue recognising each other the whole length of the corridor.

CORRIECRAVIE (n.)
To avert the horrors of corrievorrie (q.v.) corriecravie is usually employed. This is the cowardly but highly skilled process by which both protagonists continue to approach while keeping up the pretence that they haven't noticed each other - by staring furiously at their feet, grimacing into a notebook, or studying the walls closely as if in a mood of deep irritation.

CORRIEDOO (n.)
The crucial moment of false recognition in a long passageway encounter. Though both people are perfectly well aware that the other is approaching, they must eventually pretend sudden recognition. They now look up with a glassy smile, as if having spotted each other for the first time, (and are particularly delighted to have done so) shouting out 'Haaaaaallllloooo!' as if to say 'Good grief!! You!! Here!! Of all people! Will I never. Coo. Stap me vitals, etc.'

CORRIEMOILLIE (n.)
The dreadful sinking sensation in a long passageway encounter when both protagonists immediately realise they have plumped for the corriedoo (q.v.) much too early as they are still a good thirty yards apart. They were embarrassed by the pretence of corriecravie (q.v.) and decided to make use of the corriedoo because they felt silly. This was a mistake as corrievorrie (q.v.) will make them seem far sillier.

CORRIEVORRIE (n.)
Corridor etiquette demands that one a corriedoo (q.v.) has been declared, corrievorrie must be employed. Both protagonists must now embellish their approach with an embarrassing combination of waving, grinning, making idiot faces, doing pirate impressions, and waggling the head from side to side while holding the other person's eyes as the smile drips off their face, until with great relief, they pass each other.

CORRIEMUCHLOCH (n.)
Word describing the kind of person who can make a complete mess of a simple job like walking down a corridor.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

SALUTING

1. The hand salute is rendered while at the position of attention, whether standing or walking; a senior officer may return a salute from a seated position when a junior member is reporting in. Do not hold anything in the right hand while saluting, marching or walking in uniform. If both hands are full, nod a greeting to the approaching officer.

2. Salutes are exchanged outdoors, or in a "cover area" i.e. whenever you have your cover on, between officers, warrant officers, foreign officers, and cadets, on and off military installations.

3. Saluting distance is the distance at which recognition is easy, generally about 6 to 12 paces away.

4. When an officer is within saluting distance, salute and give the proper verbal greeting, depending on the time of day:

"Good morning/afternoon/evening, Sir/Ma'am"

If there is more than one officer, greet with the proper response, as determined by the situation:

"Good morning/afternoon/evening, officers/gentlemen/ladies"

5. Salute all staff cars with front license plates indicating senior officers and the USAF staff cars with roofs painted white. These usually indicate the Wing/Base Commander is inside.

6. It is not necessary for you to salute an officer when you pass him/her from the rear; simply give a verbal greeting.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That last one is strangely cute, I don't know why.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading that I would strongly suspect that nobody has ever followed the instructions for multiple officers in #4. Sticking your hand on your face and saying "Good evening, ladies!" is, like, a lot dumber than usual, or it seems so to me.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could fine the US Army procedures for when you encounter a senior officer while running and smoking a cigarette at the same time, that shit's great.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It is not necessary for you to salute an officer when you pass him/her from the rear

...missus.

Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

At 4-5 paces, lift your chin just so and establish eye contact decisively, but not lingeringly. A verbal greeting may or not be offered, but must be acknowledged if the approaching party initiates. Offer dap only when you are sure dap will be reciprocated.

briania (briania), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Just remember, he's as scared as you are. Try to make him feel awkward by making eye contact as soon as possible and keep staring until you pass. Declare yourself the winner. Go get ice cream.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm normally rocking the too-vacant-to-notice thing, but it's not that bad if you just look up when you first see them, nod or whatever, look at whatever you were looking at before for a bit then say hello when you get near enough to, is it? I'm possibly just imagining that I rarely find this as awkward as it's meant to be.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact the next time it happens I'll think about it and shit m'self.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

OK am I totally misunderstanding #5 or is the USAF recommending its employees salute inanimate objects that are owned by higher-ups? That is putting such a fantastic image in my head.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Good Evening Car

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yeah there are some people who have apparently needed it explained to them that you do not salute the colonel's car when the colonel isn't in it.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

poor car

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What if the colonel's car is actually Knight Rider, and has intelligence and a personality of its own, being a piece of AI? Do you salute it then?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

If the car appears to be empty, but the General is just picking up a quarter off the floor or giving a hummer to the first corporal, you better salute that.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

If Michael Knight is an Army colonel then I'm heading over to my local recruiting office ASAP.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I am just imagining the base sound system blaring the Knight Rider theme at 0445 every day instead of reveille and everybody popping salutes, it's kind of awesome.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.melemarce.com/Miti_passati/Immagini/davhasselhoff_dave13.jpg

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That totally looks like his head was photoshopped onto someone else's body and I'm going to pretend that is what is going on there because the truth is too horrible to deal with.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Man they better hurry with those Seinfeld DVDs.
There was a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode that dealt with the logical continuation of this thread -- the etiquette of the Stop and Chat.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)


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