FOX HUNT RIOTS!

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holy moley!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3656524.stm

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Four of the men ran out from behind the speaker's chair. Another wrestled past a doorkeeper from a different entrance.

They were chased by officials but one harangued minister Alun Michael.

hahaharangued.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Batman involved?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Rural Affairs Minister Alun Michael said the two year delay would give people time to re-home hounds and look at converting to drag hunting and other business activities.

DRAG HUNTING!!!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Run RuPaul Run!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

very benny hill.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

sequel to so graham norton

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That's hunting IN drag, sillies.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The media seems to be making a great effort to stress that only a few protestors are violent. Though, as much as I want to see the Right's protests get treated the same as the Left's, I hate to see people get beaten by the police.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i must admit i felt an odd, guilty frisson of excitement as i got to the bit where one of the invaders was quoted as saying "this is not democracy! you are overturning democracy!"

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

drag hunting is when you build a super fast car and then go kill animals.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I was kind of hoping the Sargeant-at-Arms would be a bit more ass-kicking superhero than he was. Maybe that's because I get the role mixed up with Mat-at-arms from Masters of the Universe.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

perhaps it is telling of this country that this sort of thing happens over the hunting and ripping to shreds of vermin but not over the war in Iraq...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Man-at-arms. Obviously. x-post.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Fathers 4 Justice should have staged another condom purple flour attack, that would have been a spectacle.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't really get why that guy dressed as Batman. was it supposed to endear us?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a disguise Steve!!!!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

but why BATMAN?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

short straw?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

what disguise would you use Steve?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

A *good* father might have been an idea.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i suppose because Batman fought for justice it makes sense in that context.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's meant to be "modern fathers are expected to be superheroes", and maybe The Tick wasn't the right image.

Are there any English superheroes?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Bananaman?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Catweasel

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel safer already.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hilarious that the upper class won't come out and demonstrate against the war in Iraq, student fees, the many hideous things that their beloved Cosnervative party did to the UK... but WILL muster up the effort to come out and protect their right to violently kill wildlife. There is no other answer:

Get these little ugly inbred bastards (you can always tell a posh bastard by the way they look - that "not quite human" look to their face which indicates decades of inbreeding) and tax them until they no longer exist. Stop them from having their manors and their little posh boy's schools and their homosexual teenage affairs (before denying they were gay in the first place - YES THAT MEANS YOU PORTILLO). They make me sick. They are EVIL. Ever met a nice posh person? Me neither.

― PurgetheUpperClass, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, yeah, all of the people protesting student fees are from sink estates.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Clarissa Dickson Wright was on the anti-war march!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What's wrong with teenage homosexual affairs anyway?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

but she is a buffoon (albeit one who can make a bitchin' confit of duck)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Benn? He is posh and nice.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Captain Britain!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Loads of people are posh and nice. I assumed that was a joke.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Avengers, perhaps he should have worn an Emma Peel catsuit.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It is so pleasing to see the police thump these twats. Im not particularly anti-hunting but these are such reactionary arseholes.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the protestors are smearing blood on their own faces; you know, to mark their first protests or something.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone think these sort of incidents do not bode well for Open House London this weekend?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm not a terrorist--I'm a physiotherapist."

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

RJG - did you get my email? It was about hare-coursing this weekend.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

got. get.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the men arrested is Bryan Ferry's son. Daddy will be proud.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Well of course he'll be, he's a hard-right Tory whose ex-wife opined that striking miners should be shot.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Thursday, 16 September 2004 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

the cover of the independent is reminding me of 'music for a jilted generation', kinda.

― HKM, Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Ferry's political views are quite baffling aren't they?

It's kind of vaguely interesting that the coverage of this and the guy dressed as batman has been pretty much all based on OH MY GOD WHAT IF THEY HAD BEEN MAD BOMBER TERRORISTZ!!!1@# and almost no mention at all of the issues the protestors want to raise. Well ok, maybe not that interesting at all really.

Weird, the way that the reactionary right tries to dress itself up in the clothes of the protesting left when someone wants to take their phun away, anyway.

I should go and do some work.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The media seems to be making a great effort to stress that only a few protestors are violent.

do we know how daily mail et al have covered the riots yet?

seemed much more violent than the may day protests i covered for NME a few years back, an experience that taught me if there's an 'us' and a 'them', the police will always side with the 'them' if they include wealthy property owners and vested interests. and infinitely more violent than the anti-war potest last year (?).

so yeah, people in the countryside will lose their jobs when this (morally justified) bill goes through. but on the same day, thousands heard they might lose their jobs because Jaguar are closing their Coventry plant down. and think about the miner's strike of the early 1980s. why do these people seem to have the right to violently protest the los of their livelihood, while protests/strikes would be treated much more negatively by the same corners of the press...

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

brilliantly, some tories are now invoking the European humang rights act that says you can't have irreplaceable job losses (makes about as much sense as the german economy). but i don't buy that 6,000 people are permanently employed in this 'industry' anyway.

i don't see the point in asking faux-naive questions about why the right wing press prefers these guys to the miners, to be honest. we know why.

― HKM, Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Depressingly predictable that much of the press is taking the "well if they have to fight for what they believe in against this erosion of democracy than SO BE IT!" line. Whereas if it had been May Day protestors storming the Commons the same voices would have been calling for them to be hung in the street above the Cenotaph. I'm not remotely surprised but god I hate this country sometimes.

This has to be an inside job, hasn't it? Which group of Tories to we think let them in, then?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

fatty 'nicholas' soames, almost certainly.

― HKM, Thursday, 16 September 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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Roger Moore also lives in Switzerland but he managed to turn up for the last one.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, 17 September 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Bev Bevan perhaps?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The Darkness! Where are they from again? Some Tory heartland seat.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Its going to be David Dickinson and Clarissa Thingy-Wright and you know it.

Actually, have they wheeled out Clarissa to rant about this yet? I'm quite surprised no one's blamed it on Brussells so far.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

'Blame it on Brussels' has a pleassing ring to it.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon Jordan could be persuaded

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The Darkness are from Lowestoft. Is that a Tory heartland?

Yes, Brummie's beatmaster Bev Bevan...he could bring Jeff Lynne along with him as well. In '68 the Idle Race said they were donating the royalties from one of their many flop singles to the Conservative Party to protest on behalf of the "misused youth" of this country.

Roy Wood - who isn't a Tory - has always said that his split from the original ELO was down to "political problems with Jeff."

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Friday, 17 September 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"This was treason. The royal party and the lords - aided by a bit of feudal muscle from their hunt servants - were usurping the people's democracy."

Polly Toynbee. And she isn't joking. She really does believe that England under New Labour is a people's democracy.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Britain surely?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they've already banned hunting in scotland.

― HKM, Friday, 17 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

And Polly Toynbee.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Britain is funny.

The clip of the guys in tights chasing the protesters will be shown on the Japanese equivalent of Chris Tarrant's programmes for years to come.

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Chu was good, about THE HOUNDS.

I am disappointed in Ferry - that's mild.

Donnie, is it true about those celebs?

― the fox, Saturday, 18 September 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, the Brighton body count so far is one dead horse dumped outside a bank (nay!) and a dead cow plus two dead calves cluttering up the road outside the Pavillion (moo hiss!). The first blow however was struck by the anti-hunt lobby apparently. According to the Guardian:
'Distinctly un-PC graffiti was daubed on the Countryside Alliance stand in Tony Blair's hotel. Large capital letters declared: "The Countryside Alliance are total cunts"'
Huzzah!

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

If Eno had stayed in Roxy Music none of this would have happened.

― Jasper Milvain, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/horsey.jpg

Sickening!
(I'd imagine the horse was gutted too)

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, that pun was offal.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, they've gone like a whole body better than vito corleone. they shouldn't be messed with.

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

If the headline had read "Protestors dump Ferry family carcasses in city centre" we would all be happy inna Mussolini stylee.

― Jasper Milvain, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey, the BBC just said it was a very lighthearted protest. Perhaps they are worried about alienating the CBeebies viewers.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Politics/Pix/pictures/2004/09/28/deadcow372.jpg

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What the fuck?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Ban hunting with cows now!

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

is bill drummond behind this?

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm trying to work out how dead (or live, for that matter) cows have anything to do w/foxhunting.

(haha x-post my first thought was the klf's dead sheep as well)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

They just love animals that's all - the deader the better

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's about killing the countryside. subtle innit?

― Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Be good if it was the KLF - that would mean we might get some new records from them... :-))))

― Jasper Milvain, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

They've gotten all metaphorical on our asses. Dead asses are probably next on the menu

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Get Cliff Thorburn on the phone!

― teh pow! (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

News just in - David Blunkett has just been found wandering around Brighton seafront looking lost, bewildered and without his guide dog.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone take him for a walk off the pier.

Apparently the carcasses of dead farm animals are fed to the hounds. Take away the dogs and the streets will be awash with putrifying heifers.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like Hatfield town centre on a Friday night

thanks i'm here all year

― teh pow! (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Dead farm animals are wasted on dogs

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Aah, that second winter of discontent, where the horses lay uneaten in the streets for weeks on end. Thank god the Tories will be around to get us out of that mess.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought the dead cow etc thing was about how the foxes will KILL ALL THESE COWS AND HORSES AND SHIT omg! if they don't rip the foxes to bits.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

So where are the chickens then? It's always chickens they say foxes kill, these country folk.

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

they were hiding cos they were chicken

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Feed the cows to the foxes and they'll have no room for eating chicken.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"If you see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and there’s a nice pond in it, you fill in the pond with concrete, you plough the family into the field, you blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for your wife who’s also your brother."

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

So which side is depositing dead farmyard animals? Seems to me that if you enter the realm of tenuous argument, you can make points in favour/against each side by dumping ovine corpses.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Aah, that second winter of discontent, where the horses lay uneaten in the streets for weeks on end

it's a good thing i wasn't drinking milk when i read this, or it would have been coming out of my nose...

the carcasses of dead farm animals are fed to the hounds

hein? where the hell does all that meat in the supermarket come from then, is that not dead farm animal???

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

There is obviously an EEC Dead Animal Mountain somewhere. In Wales probably.

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, but hopefully not animals that have died of dysentry and then been left in the corner of a shitty field all week.

x-post

Feeding them to the dogs is the most economic option, otherwise the farmers need to pay to get them incinerated. Why the foxes are to blame for this I don't know.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Feeding them to the dogs is the most economic option, otherwise the farmers need to pay to get them incinerated. Why the foxes are to blame for this I don't know.

yeah, it isn't like they can't keep their hounds around as cutesey wootsey little pets, and they'd still need to eat...

this whole thing really disgusts me. there's some fucked up people out there.

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah, I totally missed the whole carcass dumping thing. (Officially condemned by the Countryside Alliance incidentally.)

Yet another lengthy and unpleasant bus journey home tonight I dare say.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Officially condemned by the Countryside Alliance incidentally - I think we got a Sinn Fein/Provos thang goin' on here

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Jasper, if you're the Jasper I know, what sucked you into this particular whirlpool?

― Milton Pinski, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Jasper Buckaroo? He's back?

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

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