Dick Cheney will not relent

ok so everyone is talking about this big fuckoff article on one of the worst men on the planet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/24/AR2007062401461.html?hpid=topnews

tell me your favorite part.

i think mine is the memo he had authored under gonzales' name, then later agreed with 'gonzales' opinion about said matter to pres.

Reading that article was the first time that I've seen enough of a paper trail to make me comfortable with the idea of prosecuting, say, Cheney as a war criminal. Unfortunately it's virtually impossible because any moves to that extent by a Democratic Congress or subsequent presidential administration would be dismissed as "simply" playing politics, further undermining what little life there is in American democracy. Short of the US actually actually losing a war, the only realistic option would be for a huge groundswell of more or less non-political military figures to push the case. And there's no chance in hell of that happening.

Shame, America, shame.

This is why people used to have revolutions in the past.

Very few revolutions have been started because your government has been oppressing people in a foreign country. Wars, maybe, but not revolutions. Anyway, large swathes of America are still probably perfectly happy with torturing "towelheads," especially if the word "torture" isn't actually used.

No, I meant because the press is so obviously taking position against the democratically chosen government.

You mean the only 2 presidential elections in recent memory that have been questionable in their legitimacy? That democratically chosen government?

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even tho it rehashes familiar crimes and misdemeanors that washington post series is a must-read -- all cheney's rotten eggs in 1 basket.

No, I meant because the press is so obviously taking position against the democratically chosen government.

-- StanM,

what is the point of even saying shit like this? unless you're being droll or something

yeah, it was the droll thing. sorry.

ok!

m coleman otm, it's crazy even to mentally add up all the shit we know about, the few added details are just icing.

haven't had the stomach to read too many of the comments

haven't had the stomach to read too many of the comments

You should, most of them seem to support the ritual disemboweling of the VP. After a while though it's difficult to tell if they're serious or not...

If the use of extreme measures use on extreme people saved one American life (as they have) the methods are justified. Kudos to Dick for thinking outside the box and shame on you idealists.

Posted by: UncleWillie | June 25, 2007 06:51 AM

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Democrats_plan_to_cut_Cheney_out_0623.html

i heard about that, classic

If that works, I will do a happy little dance.

haha okay that is the funniest/coolest thing I've ever seen from Rahm Emmanuel

This whole thing is so infuriating! Does Cheney actually think he can escape all oversight due to a technicality! Why are people even debating this? It's like - does he just think we will all just go "Ooops - you got us! Well, I guess you ARE above the law..."

Answer? Sadly, yes.

DOUCHEBAG!

i like that emmanual made a graphic to go w/ it

http://www.rawstory.com/images/other/emanuel-cheney-graphic.jpg

Cheney's a branch? More like a banyan root.

No,he's claimed a blank check as executive priv, now his Office snubs a decree issued by the Office of the President, because hey, he just comes over to the Senate occasionally, he's not all that much a part of the Executive Branch, so not all that much subject to aw shit

i am enjoying rahm's 'aint i a stinker' public personality more than anything

i'm waiting to hear bush say "political theater" another 32278 times

POLITICAL THEATRE

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At a press briefing yesterday, White House Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino said that Cheney's assertion that he operates outside of the executive branch of government was "an interesting constitutional question that people can debate"

ROFFLES.

I found it more ROFtacular the Dana Perino also said it was a "non-issue." So basically, the press secretary said it was an interesting non-issue that people can debate. And nobody debates non-issues! Good cover, Dana!

that was brilliant of rahm to try and cut the funding. i wonder what happens next.. besides those two telling each other to go f*** themselves

Dick Cheney relents

I luv lawyerz:

David S. Addington, Cheney’s chief of staff and counsel, wrote in a three-paragraph letter to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) on Tuesday that the executive order on classified national security information does not give the archivists authority over the president or vice president.

Addington said that therefore it “is not necessary in these circumstances to address the subject of any alternative reasoning."

"Dems force Cheney..."

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"an interesting constitutional question that people can debate"

is straight from the "we make history, you talk about it" school of thinking that this administration has based its entire MO on

by the bye, it appears that democrats have forced exactly 0

Cheney's facial expressions are never clever trickery from the photo editor as you see in the gossip rags by the checkout lane. That dipshit's expression always sums up the situation.

http://images.politico.com/global/cheney4.jpg

This is his "drat, foiled again." If this was the 70s and he was appearing on Scooby Doo, this is the "would've gotten away with it if weren't for those meddling kids" face.

Jonah Goldberg: I'm a longtime member of a pretty select group: the Dick Cheney Fan Club. Chapters gather in phone booths, refrigerator boxes and

I'm glad to see the thread posting my original use of his master's voice is still alive. Dick Cheney's world, and we who are forced to live in it, is timeless, positively glacial.

That whole "president of the Senate" line of argument was crap anyway. How many times since Jan. 1, 2001 has Cheney presided over -- or attended -- a Senate session? Fewer than ten?

I really want to organize a campaign where he receives a million "Go fuck yourself" letters his last week in office.

um is it me or does Addington's letter indicate that the Cheney STILL isn't gonna give up his "secret" documents - all that's changed is the legal justification, right? What kind of victory is that?

it isn't one, which is why the Emmanuel vote is still on

I really want to organize a campaign where he receives a million "Go fuck yourself" letters his last week in office

why not start now?

has to be planned carefully for max impact. A p.r. pro (pro bono) would help.

doing it his last week in office would emphasize its juvinility (and be completely meaningless) - it would have the impact of a flash mob. might it not have a greater impact if it were started in response to a particular event while he still has a substantial amount of time in office? instead of being over the moment it happens, it would have the potential of growing virally and hitting any number of milestones.

o joy invocation of Executive Privelege. Dubya really IS Nixon 2.0 (except not as funny)

If it hit the media at all, that would be a great impact. "Dick Cheney left office today as a swarm of letters poured in from the country telling him to 'go blank himself,' referring to an earlier incident..."

Would be quite a spectacle and quite a statement that would do the world good to hear.

It would have also been great if there were parades when he grinch heart grew two sizes too small to beat properly anymore.

Here he shows his comical, whimsical side:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg

That Washington Post article from Monday is one of four in the series.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/cheney/images/gallery-thumb.jpg

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Did_Dick_Cheney_kill_70000_salmon_0629.html

He has a face that says, "Yeah, I killed 'em and I'd do it again, you pansy fuck."

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Such a waste of good fish. Limbaugh & others would gleefully point to this story over the past few years, saying how environmentalists were evil and wanted to run farmers & ranchers out of business by not killing off entire salmon runs with water re-direction. My dad would happily repeat all this, and cite some 60 Minutes story from years back.

Of course, truth of the matter is that this was done to shore up rural support so that Oregon's current republican senator, Gordon Smith(who is up for re-election), would be assured (re)election.

found this

February 8, 2006--

I would like to direct you to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book, "Crimes Against Nature." In it, he describes how our country's wondrous quality is being flushed--primarily through the disgusting behavior of Dick "Pot Roast" Cheney (don't get on me; Don Imus has referred to him as "Vice President Pot Roast" and as a "fat, lying, pork-chop sucking weasel and war criminal"). Pot Roast and Bush are to blame for America's natural resources, not to mention the lungs of children, being despoiled to serve the greed of corporate resource exploiters.

Pot Roast has done everything he can to destroy individuals and organizations that seek to protect our environment. According to Bobby Kennedy's book, in just the first three years of its grip on the White House and Congress, the Bush Administration "has launched over 300 major rollbacks of U.S. environmental laws, rollbacks that are weakening the protection of our country's air, water, public lands and wildlife."

Here's one example of the vicious nature of the Bushies.

In the fall of 2002, during my last months with the CA Dept. of Fish and Game, several thousand king (chinook) salmon, silver (coho) salmon and steelhead were nosing their way into the mouth of the Klamath River off the coast of northern California. Two hundred miles upstream where the Klamath Basin overlaps both sides of the California-Oregon state line, a struggle was taking place. Federal agencies had determined that the coho and steelhead populations warranted placement on the federal threatened and endangered species list; California was considering similar listings. The experts said that to survive as distinct populations, these salmonids needed certain minimum flows down the Klamath from Oregon into California--cool, oxygenated water that would give the courageous fish at least a chance to reach their historic spawning grounds in California's Siskiyou County. Upstream farmers, meanwhile, were demanding their usual subsidized diversion of Klamath water to their fields. With the diversion valve closed and the law clearly on the side of the fish, it appeared that, for once, one of Mother Nature's most incredible miracles--a salmon and steelhead migration--was going to be given a priority in this profit-motive society. Time was growing short. The fish were getting up their nerve to swim into one of the more perilous anadromous rivers in the West.

Then the phone rang in the office of Gale Norton, Dept. of the Interior secretary and a James Watt disciple. The caller was Pot Roast. The order was short: "Open that fucking valve." For the bottle blond Bush appointee Norton, it was music to her ears. The valve opened, the water ran into fields of grass hay...and the Klamath River's temperature began to rise.

Within days, the carcasses of no less than 60,000 dead salmon and steelhead--about 280 tons--were strewn along the lower 20 miles of the mighty Klamath, feeding thousands of vultures, gulls, crows and ravens. The stench drove away hundreds of fishermen. One of the better returns of precious anadromous fish in memory on the Klamath was over almost before it started.

Causing the death of a federally protected or California state protected species is a crime. Any small-time gold miner or road builder or logger who caused such a catastrophe would have been frog-walked to the slammer by either t he feds or the state, or both. But, nothing happened. To anyone. Pot Roast is still vice president. Norton--whose department oversees the U.S. relationship with Indian tribes often represented by people like Jack Abramoff--is still Interior secretary. And those fish are still dead.

ABC news report on this

This really did happen right before the 2002 election.

Reading that WaPo segment on the fish, I was almost ready to side with the farmers...until two years after the valves opened, and nothing had changed.

I don't know about anyone else, but that was the only chapter which wasn't so cut and dry.

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was that DC Madam called "DC" because of Dick Cheney?

Is Cheney the "new Kissinger," ie will he be in danger of having his crepuscular, torturing ass put in stir when he goes abroad?

http://www.slantmagazine.com/blog/default.asp?display=321

is slant paying you by the clickthrough?

Morbs, from your lips to God's ear. May it be granted.

White House Says Cheney to Be in Wheelchair Tuesday

Can't say I'm not laughing.

"moving boxes", jeez...

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ok that was tasteless, sorry, not all people in wheelchairs are dr. strangelove... BUT ALL VILLAINOUS GOVERNMENT BASTARDS ARE.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/21/business/21Norris_190.jpg

http://www.planetmobility.com/store/wheelchairs/power/vestil/x4_mud.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Roosevelt_in_a_wheelchair.jpg/436px-Roosevelt_in_a_wheelchair.jpg

reversefreude for the wheelchair thing :-/

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008646583_apcheneyrecords.html

A federal judge ruled Monday that Vice President Dick Cheney has broad discretion in determining what records created during his eight-year tenure must be preserved.

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Also attending:

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http://members.tripod.com/drscotts/images/drscott.jpg

(Rocky Horror guy)

Cheney's book is really gonna be something, isn't it.

How am I going to read this without paying for it, though?

wikipedia

Will he be the reader on the audiobook I wonder?

Yeah, that's the thing, MW -- even though I'm assuming all the juicy bits will be pretty much everywhere for a month, I think I still might want to read the actual thing. Because it is basically going to be Fuck You, Everybody: The Dick Cheney Story.

Catchy title. Of course the subtitle is more and more looking like (and that means you, too, George).

How am I going to read this without paying for it, though?

Get it from the library?

oh right, this magical place everyone talks about where books are free and unicorns fart puppies

Yeah, that crap's just a myth in my experience.

I'm lucky; I can get puppy-farting unicorns through ILL.

this is the thread where I admit to a weird sort of grudging respect for cheney. like, at least he's never pretended to be anything other than exactly what he is.

which is a super villain

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makes u think