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Loads of guys donate their sperm for cash (especially students so I'm told) but would the guys of ILX do it? Also, ladeez, would you donate your eggs for cash?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't have all of my sperm. I need it for wanking.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

My sperm is for one lady only at this point. I had a friend that went and tried to do it, its a very strict process that you go through. He wasn't accepted.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear rejection for my sperm.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't because of the Law & Order SVU episode I watched last night. This lady was accused of kidnapping. It turns out that, biologically, it IS her daughter, but the doctor put her fertilized egg into another lady. In the end, you find out she has three other biological kids that she doesn't know about. It REALLY bothered me, especially because her husband had died in a car crash. So she had these kids out there which were THEIR kids, but other moms had birthed them. ay ay ay.

You didn't ask about this one, but there's also the option of being a surrogate mother. As far as I can tell though, it doesn't pay that much.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Chaps who donate in the UK are now contactable by any potential sproglets that are created, so I understand volunteer numbers have dropped considerably of late. Ladies donating eggs have to go through quite a palaver, don't they? Hormone injections and that. And they don't get any orgasms out of it either.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, and I'd be worried that they'd screw me up so I couldn't have kids of my own when/if I wanted them.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't it usually the other way around?

xpost: they just showed that law and order last week!

― kephm, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I once tried to donate the sperms. They made me take tests and whatnot. I failed the piss test; I didn't know I couldn't give sperms when there was marihuanas in my bloodstream.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You didn't ask about this one, but there's also the option of being a surrogate mother. As far as I can tell though, it doesn't pay that much.
I would only ever consider this for a friend & even then i'm not very sure.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

dude didn't you see Road Trip? tcha

xpost

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to nick
Yup. They don't want kids predisposed to being potheadz now do they. Same reason I cannot give blood.

Well, that and a few other reasons.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(Australians, Home & Away Question: Is Lea going to give Sally the baby?)

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Women generally receive around $3000.00 for a "donated" egg. It does require major hormone treatments. I know two people who went through it, both because they needed the money.One women had been struggling with depression, some of which was prompted by her financial straits. She was diagnosed with bipolar during the "donor" process, but did not inform the donor bank. She's a fabulous person, but...I would have included that information. Anyway, she needed the money. (She was accepted twice, and so received $6000.00 over two years while a graduate student. And hey, she completed her degree while undergoing hormone treatments, so she might well be a great donor candidate for momhood).
The thing that bothers me about fertility treatments, surrogacy and donor programs as a whole is that it seems like the idea of abortion, as a legal right and a simple surgical proceedure, gets left out. or, rather, when talking about abortion, noone wants to talk about other manipulations of fertility. my point being - if i am allowed to sell an egg for fertilization, shouldn't I have the right to fertilize that egg by myself and make the decision to end the fertilization?

― aimurchie, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Well yeah I think so. It's odd that I have more issues with fertilisation than I do with abortion. (i think abortion is ever mother's right.)

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely it's every womens right, you're not a mother unless you've actually given birth right?

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of agree, Pink. Abortion is necessarily the result of unwanted pregnancy but the fetishization of child bearing and concommitant commercialization of fertility makes me squeamish. It's not that I am without sympathy for the infertile, I just wonder why it's so important to continue a family line or actually bear a child when 99% of the child rearing experience will have naught to do with that.

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. i would donate ALL of my eggs, if i could have the chance.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there is a poster on the walls here at school advertising $15,000 for donated eggs. but i think you also have to be smart and WASPy and perhaps able to extract them yourself.

― j c (j c), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i am sure my medical history would make me unable to donate sperm, let alone blood, plasma or any of those things.

i am willing, but i fail tests.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I would probably be a hot shit candidate for donating spooge but I've never done it. It might however strangely fulfill my darwinian urge to seed the earth with dozens upon dozens of offspring that I don't have to take care of. In that regard actually it seems like a great idea, though perhaps a bit selfish. Wait, it says "donate!" How can it be selfish if I'm donating something? ARGH

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"kind of agree, Pink. Abortion is necessarily the result of unwanted pregnancy but the fetishization of child bearing and concommitant commercialization of fertility makes me squeamish. It's not that I am without sympathy for the infertile, I just wonder why it's so important to continue a family line or actually bear a child when 99% of the child rearing experience will have naught to do with that. "

That's very much apt, and to add to it - spending $10,000.00 per on fertility treatments (egg fertilized outside the womb and implanted, donor egg implanted, frozen egg implanted, frozen sperm used) which are all notoriously insecure for pregnancy AND THEN infertile couples will do this 7-10 times.
My compassion does not extend too far. At some point, you have to stop.
The worst, though, is the women who take fertility treatments, have litters, and then get lots of news coverage. because they refused to have a selective abortion, despite their Dr's reccomendations. "God wants me to have seven stupid rednecks! it's God's will!" No, bitch, God made you infertile for a reason.

― aimurchie, Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom's sperm would come with security clearance.

Oddly, the thought that potential offspring will be given their biological father's details makes me, if anything, more likely to donate sperm (though with my hairline, I dunno if anyone would want them). I always thought it felt too arbitrary and soulless before.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A Plea

By Edwin Morgan

Ah thote Glasgow wiz that macho,
But here we're doon tae wir last batch o
Sperm, the bank's near empty. Gode,
Ur therr nae real men tae loosen their load?
Whit's wrang wi ye all? Don't tell me it's cash.
Is fifteen pound no enough fur a splash?
We've hud tae import a Danish donation.
That's wan in the eye fur a high-kiltit nation!
C'moan noo, fellas. Geeze a but sperrum,
It's no goany dae ye any herrum.
Tell the wife ye've got a mean
Heidache, no the night Josephine.
Trot tae the clinic the morn's morn
Wi the wherewithal tae get someone born.
Think o yon near-impotent bank.
Grit yer teeth and gie it a wank.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I would never in a million years put my DNA up for sale/donation. I don't care if my best friend was diagnosed as infertile and was on her knees weeping and pleading for one of my eggs. Never.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

EGGOISTE!

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried donating sperm about a year ago (my teaching assistantship didn't really pay the bills). I got my free movie tickets and a sperm bank branded yo-yo for the attempt, but in the end they decided I didn't have the right stuff. Low sperm count or somesuch.

Going into a nondescript office building to masturbate in a little sterile room is an experience I'm glad I had though.

― Augustine (Augustine Bearse), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought about it seriously once upon a time, but then it creeped me out. Phantom Mandees running around etc.

― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i was broke a few years ago and they said they'd pay me and i'd have to do it weekly (or was it twice a week?). i thought "blimey, 20 quid for a wank?) and went up to harley street and began the process which involved a few questions and 10 mins in a room with a bunch of softcore porn mags.

then i found out they were going to stick some kind of needle up the eye of my dick and do all sorts of other stuff and i got squeamish.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

There are ads all over campus right now looking for a Columbia undergrad basically fitting my description to donate eggs to a couple, offering like $10k. The problem is, I'm thoroughly appalled by the concept of fertilization treatments after dealing with one too many anti-abortion freakos who were UNDERGOING fertilization treatments.

THEM: It is god's will to give a woman a baby, so she should not abort it. God knows what is best.
Me: Except for when he made you sterile, I guess, huh?
THEM: (shocked silence at the blatantly obvious)

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess what it comes down to is that I'm afraid my super-desired-by-these-weird-aryan-fetishizing-freaks-putting-up-ads-all-over-campus babies will have to live with THOSE people, basically.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather send kids to Castro's Cuba than make them live with those two morons.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I'd be a desirable candidate for sperm donation, so I've never tried.

side-topic but related - I always hear stories about people getting thousands for experimental medical tests (ala the guy who directed El Mariachi paying for it by donating his body to science), where do you find some of that action? I'm willing to chance an early death if it means not working for a year.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I did the egg donation thing (am in college and broke). It was rather painless. My biggest ethical concern was foisting life upon some poor kid.

― loggedthefuckout, Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and the going rate is usually 7 to 8 thousand per cycle.

― loggedthefuckout, Friday, 8 October 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

So what does it entail ltfo?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Columbia, and all Ivy league Univs, are notorious for these ads. "Must be tall, have 3.85 GPA or above..." It always makes me want to introduce the couple to a nice, smart, tall African -American woman and watch the jaws drop.
Columbia is the worst with the ads - it's $15, 000.00 now for an ivy league egg. White egg, please, not brown.
And still, there are people in this country who think I don't have the right to an abortion?
I am white and went to Columbia (Barnard actually, but who cares). I was raped while I was a student and had an abortion. The fetus was probably not the result of the rape - I had sex ONCE after being raped, just to see if I could do it, and it is most probable that was the sperm that encountered my fertile egg.
But, without proof, in this new environment of intolerance, I would have to bear the burden of proof.
pregnancy does not last long enough to go to court to prove whatever details anti-abortion courts require.
And yet - I live in a country that places monetary value on my eggs - on my fertility. Selling eggs is capitalism at its best.
The last time I had an abortion, I had to be escorted from a parking lot, in order to avoid the protesters. I was, again, pregnant, this time with an IUD. I went through a metal detector. I was pregnant with an IUD IN MY BODY - and that means any fetus I was carrying would probably be very fucked up. I had an ectopic pregnancy , with the fetus in a fallopian tube and the IUD, well, nowhere to be found.
The metal detector did not find the IUD - nor did the previous ultrasounds. My life was at risk, carrying an ectopic pregnancy. Miscarriage would have meant hemmorraghing. I am lucky that i was able to sustain this unwanted, weird, pregnancy until I could do something legal and available - have the surgical procedure known as abortion. This might fall under "risk to womens lives" in anti choice legislature. However, most of the proposed legislature does NOT protect any women who had my scenario - pregnant with an IUD.
I did not turn around and sue my provider - a notoriously underfunded provider for womens health in general, and a great resource for women who need gyn services. I didn't blame them at all - (although they inserted the IUD).I am one of the one percent that had a bad experience - it is 99% effective.
But I had to park in a weird parking lot and be escorted to have my abortion. And I had to go through a metal detector.
So....am i able to sell eggs and then be punished for fertilizing them?
It's a one issue election for me - I HATE Bush for daring to reduce my life to what he thinks is right or wrong. My choices are more complicated.

― aimurchie, Friday, 8 October 2004 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for listening. I think I changed the tenor of the thread. But, boy, do I feel great! Kinda like i shot my wad!
Please continue with spooge stories. xo

― aimurchie, Friday, 8 October 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought your last post was fantastic, such a touching story & i totally agree with you fwiw.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you.

― aimurchie, Friday, 8 October 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Murchie, I love you. I too have had to walk past protesters on my way to an abortion ("Don't kill your baby! I'll raise it for you!"). I know your whole story and you know mine.

On another note, let's talk about milk.

If you can sell eggs, you should be able to sell breast milk. It appears impossible to do so. You can however donate it to milk banks for babies who cannot handle formula and do not have lactating moms. When I tried to donate my excess breast milk, I was told the milk bank was overstocked. (I pumped milk for the first 5 months of Rufus's life because he was unable to latch on - I had bags and bags of extra in the freezer.)

My sister has been trying to reproduce via a surrogate (embryo implantation) unsuccessfully. If they do ever manage to conceive and give birth, she won't have her own milk. Though there used to be wet nurses, now it is apparently taboo to speak of selling one's breast milk.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The milk in the milk banks is just for babies with a doctor's prescription for human milk, not for someone like my sister who might have a healthy, normal baby but who just want to use human milk instead of formula.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always thought the main question to ask yourself about having children is: "Do I believe the world would be a better place with more people like me around?" My answer is an unequivocal YES. However, I believe in 99% nuture over nature so I probably won't be donating any sperm soon. In fact, think of what an evil genius might do with an Army of rogue Spencers!!!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know you were already aware of Ned's plan, Spencer :\

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

:/ (these emoticons remind me of Debbie Downer)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

How long can one keep human milk. My friend has her pump milk frozen for later use but is there any use-by-date on this stuff?

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they don't bother issuing one because they assume it will get used up in some emergency teamaking situation before it goes off.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't tasted human milk since I was a kid. The only milk I can stand right out of the beast is goat's milk. Fresh cow's milk is too strong. Luckily I take my tea with lemon.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

human milk has incredible staying power - it can be kept out of the fridge for 6 hours without going bad - but I think I wouldn't want to use milk that had been frozen for longer than 3 or 4 months.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hang on - cow's milk can be kept out of the fridge for 6 hours without going bad too. At work we usually buy a pint in the morning and keep it unrefrigerated for tea all day.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

it scares me that my details can be given out to strangers if i give sperm.....

― darragh.mac (darragh.mac), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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