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I like the one where these twins get separated and people have to cross-dress.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No, no, no, the one with the Bitchy Kate who gets her comeuppance from a dirty dronerock, erm... what was Petrucio anyway?

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

DV, Twelfth Night is responsible for all terrible sitcoms ever. It's Art Thou Being Served?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it being soon apparent of what manner of gentleness she was composed, for her music-master rushed into the room to complain that the gentle Katharine, his pupil, had broken his head with her lute, for presuming to find fault with her performance; which, when Petruchio heard, he said: 'It is a brave wench; I love her more than ever, and long to have some chat with her'

Ha ha, I am all about smashing lutes over people's heads! Especially annoying music-masters!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

DV, Twelfth Night is responsible for all terrible sitcoms ever. It's Art Thou Being Served?

oh right, so we're a Shakespeare expert now, are we?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well you aren't, but I fancy I know a thing or two about The Bard. (NB: I know two things, the fact above, and that calling him The Bard is an express ticket to twathood).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Well you aren't

yes I am. I am an expert on everything.

I am now intrigued by the idea that all the characters in AYBS map onto ones in Twelfth Night. It only really works for Malvolio = Captain Peacock. I am wondering now if there is an episode of AYBS where they trick Captain Peacock into thinking that Mrs Slocum wants him to come round and play with her pussy.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Destroy Midsummer Nights Dream - my god, that a load of twee bollox. And not even in a good way.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

S: Much Ado

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Much Ado, Measure For Measure, All's Well That End's Well
Destroy: THE TEMPEST, As You Like It, The Tempest, Midsummer Night's Dream, Love's Labours Lost, The Tempest, The Tempest.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not actually read Twelfth Night.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the Tempest is not a comedy

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do you have all this hate for The Tempest?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the one where these twins get separated and people have to cross-dress.

-- DV (dirtyvica...), October 8th, 2004 11:53 AM.

Isn't that all of them?

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't The Tempest often get classed as a comedy, just because it's not a history or a tragedy and some people don't hold with the whole 'romances' genre.

I mean, 'Measure For Measure' is hardly meant to be a barrel of laughs either. Actually, that's a 'problem play', isn't it? It's good, as Matt says.

Anyway, of the ones I've seen or read that are supposed to be funny, I've only liked Much Ado About Nothing. Twelth Night was OK, actually, but I think I read it very quickly and I've never seen it on stage.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, whatever it is, The Tempest is completely classic, and I can only assume that Matt's antipathy springs from his being disappointed at the lack of good jokes.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you get some shitty shakespeare in the uk (i say this with no evidence). barebones amateur community productions are the best, tho they can be terrible of course, and they usually don't stray too far away from the biggest ones.

i highly recommend these people.

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Much Ado About Nothing has moments that are really horrific and painful to watch,(okay not like Titus Andronicus) like when the father (Leonidas?) renounces his own daughter Hero and says she is a whore and dead to him. But it has some fantastically funny moments as well. I love it, but it's quite a cruel play. The only ones that I think are consistently comedic is Twelfth Night and The Comedy of Errors.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

LLL is funny but chatty. i like AYLI a lot, it has the crossdressing thing, more cleverly done than in 12th nite, but also hinges on frank female lust, and wrestling.

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'problem plays' thing is silly, though, it's basically only there so that there's somewhere to put Troilus & Creseida. I also don't understand why MfM and, say Merchant of Venice aren't in the same category, but like whatevs.

MfM is really good anyway. I like TN too, and Comedy of Errors which has lots of puns that are still funny (LLL has lots of really good puns that aren't still funny, I think this may just be bad luck).

I have a hat from the Tempest, therefore it is classic.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Cressida, oops, that teaches me to try and look smart.

Today my (insane) Shakespeare tutor told my tute partner and I how glad he was to be teaching English students, because "if you get a room of Americans or Jews they just talk all the time". (nb I am Jewish)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

!!! You could (should?) report him for that.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i think a midsummer night's dream is pretty funny actually.

so is Macbeth!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"the merchant of venice" is definitely a comedy, though i've never seen it performed as one and kind of doubt it ever will be.

destroy: "the merry wives of windsor."

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Greg, don't report him. Just talk all the time. When he finally gets annoyed, Pow!!!, hit him with the zing.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

What's 'Two Gentlemen of Verona' like? I always liked the title.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

They're all comedies if the parts are played by monkeys. Oh, and Are You Being Served is classic, so any (imagined?) connection to Twelfth Night only enhances the stature of the latter.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the antisemtic one!

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

EDMUND BLACKADDER: Percy, you're about as funny as a Shakespeare comedy.

― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 9 October 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It is very funny, reading the Friendly Friar on this thread. He is not himself at all! Watching him argue in an apparently aggressive, but actually light-hearted way with Mr Farrell is even better than watching a Shakespearean comedy.

I have seen MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING, at the Globe.

I think MfM is one of his best. I have seen that at the Globe this year, also.

Comedy in non-comedies is like: Henry IV for instance.

― the bellefox, Saturday, 9 October 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

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