T/S: Ikea is Crap or I'm an Idiot

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There's so little difference between the two different cam-locks that came with my furniture that I didn't realize my mistake until I had already put them all in. GOD DAMN SHIT FUCKER BITCH ASS FUCK!!!! You SUCK IKEA! Going to your store is MISERY, and your crap furniture is all made out of PARTICLE BOARD ANYWAY!

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

cam-locks?

― 57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, there's a screw, and then there's a small part that kind of goes in perpendicular to the screw and grabs the screw. Seems to be a common Ikea thing.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ive always thought that was a nice bit of engineering. i always found ikea products a joy to assemble.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I absolutely loathe putting together IKEA furniture - really, it makes me swear like very little else. Unfortunately I'm good at it, so I get nominated to do it a lot by my friend, Queen of IKEA.

Mostly I'd like to set it on fire.

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Most of our apartment is IKEA. Boyfriend usually does the assembly, and I get to perv on him as he bends over to do the allen key thing, so yeah, it's good.

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 9 October 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was the boyfriend who got to do the assembly this time. I'm usually not bad at these things, but right now I feel pretty inadequate. : (

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I like assembling it so much I'm thinking of applying for a job as an IKEA installer, no kidding.

― 57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh, the more I look at the thing I think it's still going to hold up. I just have to go back and get more of those dinky cam-locks.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm terrible with flat-pack furniture. For some reason I find the whole experience incredibly stressful. I get the same reaction trying to wire TVs to VCRs etc., so maybe I should just quit and take ballet lessons.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes I wonder about, you know, miracles and stuff. I got frustrated and just stood the thing back on its side, and the cam-locks, which I thought were stuck for good, just popped right out. I take it back, Ikea, I'm sorry. And you do sell a pretty damn good cup of coffee for 75 cents.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

My space is tiny, and was kind of dorm-ish when I moved in, so I was grateful to find some IKEA shelves, cupboards, and knick-knacks that made it look a little more grown-up.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Honestly, I am simultaneously awed and horrified every time I go to Ikea. It's sort of like watching Koyanisquatsi (sp?). I wonder if the one in Elizabeth, NJ is bigger and more impressive than other ones or if they're all like that.

But the designs are good, it's cheap, and the stuff is ok when you're young and mobile. It doesn't last, but I don't really need it to.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Like "walmart-fallapart" but more purty?

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Key to putting it together: Unpack everything. Stack it where it's all accessible. Read the instructions all the way through once before touching anything, to make sure you have all the necessary parts. Follow the steps. Make sure you're using the right screws and cam locks. When you discover you used the wrong screws or cam locks, grab a hammer and nail and knock together the uncooperative parts.

It is cheap crap, true, but it's much nicer cheap crap than the cheaper crappier cheap crap.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

There furniture is usually nice enough looking for what you pay.

I've always found their stuff a joy to assemble.

And the coffee there is assjuice.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that an endorsement?

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose.
If you like assjuice.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate this shit. I hate ikea stores. they give me migranes and rashes.

― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

There's one Ikea for all of Chicagoland, so it's always insanely crowded. A new one is being built a mile or 2 from where I live, which is going to make traffic even more of a bitch (it's pretty bad now) around that area. I'm not looking forward to a bunch of trophy wives in their BMW X-5s cutting me off.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything I've ever gotten from ikea hasn't had all the holes predrilled, and is missing screws or other important parts.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

and the bad thing is that I realize that after it's 3/4 put together, so I'm not going to disassemble it and drive the heavy ass pieces all the way back the schaumberg just to get another one that may or may not have all the pieces/holes.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The good news is, my Talbo kitchen unit is now standing.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i love ikea. cheap bookshelves, great kitchen department.

― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

YAY!

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I like my new Eckersby coffee table.

http://www.ikea.ca/PIAimages/38626_PE130435_S3.jpg

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

imagine that plus clutter

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never had a problem with anything I've gotten from Ikea. I like to put the stuff together, too.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone ever bought Ikea stuff online? Every time I go to order something, they ask for a credit card number before confirming a final price w/ shipping, and I'm afraid I'll get screwed on anything semi-large.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone ever go to Ikea to pick stuff out to get delivered, rather than bringing it home yourself? What a goddam nightmare.

― wetmink (wetmink), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I absolutely loathe putting together IKEA furniture - really, it makes me swear like very little else.

More than building it yourself?

I've never had Jeff's non-drilled hole problem, and I've always been very happy with the sturdiness of the furniture, considering that it's pre-fab crap. For pre-fab crap, it's top of the line.

― Smokin' funk by the boxes (kenan), Sunday, 10 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

IKEA is terrible - a real trap for Yawasuffts (Young Adults Who Are Shacking Up For the First Time). An IKEA lamp almost killed a freind of mine by electrocution once. None of their lamps work for very long either - and the tables go wobbly very quickly in spite of repeated screwing (go on, make the obvious joke).

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Screw in the bedroom instead?

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you David. I think we're all glad that's over.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate ikea stores. they give me migranes and rashes.

Worst headache of my recent life was about a month ago after we'd spent an afternoon IKEA-ing. On the way back into the city, with a rental car full of to-be-assembleds, my head hurt so bad I wanted to bash it through the window. And I don't generally get migraines.

But the furniture, post-assembly, holds up pretty well. "IKEA -- the head-splitting pain is worth it!"

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoy it. I'm too poor to afford anything but Ikea, and I furnished a 4-room apartment with moderate style for $2000, flat. Quality's decent with good assembly, and it's texturally interesting. And frankly, as a Yawasuffts (Young Adults Who Are/Is Shacking Up For the First Time). Ikea's been a great resource. Otherwise I'd still be living outta the airport.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I was also a Yawasufft, but ten years down the track only a wobbly table remains. All other IKEA items I had are broken. Mind you I was always fascinated by their fake hifi equipment.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, yeah. That stuff is incredibly weird. I saw that at the store on New Jersey a few years ago and had no idea how to react.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 10 October 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Next to the fake TV, they had 7 copies of the same Doris Lessing book on a shelf. Very surreal.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 October 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Do the people who build Ikeas alter the architecture to suit the landscape? The one in Elizabeth, NJ is right by the Newark airport, and I swear it looks like an airport terminal. It's fun to watch the planes take off and land from the cafeteria.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 October 2004 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"Has anyone ever bought Ikea stuff online?"

Despite the fact the catalogue said it was possible, I tried everything - aside from sex offers since that meant I'd have to visit the place - but alas no they refused. Maybe they sensed I was a sucker who'd spend more when they refused? After reading this thread I fear the worst. We bought a whole bunch of stuff to re-do a room. I am def not looking forward to assembling it. I'm crap at ANYTHING that involves assembling - my husband assures me he's good at it. It's funny: I thought I was through the pain when we finally decided on what to get - step 2456845 in a relationship - but now it seems there's another hurdle... Friday=Hell-day? Probably as we haven't figured out how we will get the old stuff out. hah.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 10 October 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i love ikea furniture, i hate ikea stores

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 10 October 2004 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ikea uk doesn't have on-line buying, you *have* to go to the store.

i made my first trip there about a month ago and it was truly dreadful. we then got the stuff delivered (for £30), which was good as the queues of cars waiting by the front door to pick up was appalling. i think my main problem is it takes two cocking hours just to get round the shop which is about half an hour over my shopping tolerence limit. that and the fact that it's packed and in NEASDEN...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Sunday, 10 October 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Neasden--. It doesn't help that it's so not designed to be approached on foot. Whenever I go there I feel like I've magically been transported into a Bill Bryson rant about getting around parts of the US minus car.

― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 10 October 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

IKEA is PURE CRAP!

― steve harvery, Sunday, 10 October 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i am good at assembling IKEA stuff, i love their (now-discontinued) Robin CD shelves and have quite a few of them... i could make one of those in 10 minutyes, at my peak.

only one IKEA item ever defeated me, a computer desk that held together shoddily, and had a drawer that, despite my planing layer after layer off of it, would never fit in its cradle.

but i love IKEA. ice cream and hot dogs, oh my.

― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 10 October 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

My awsome Buskbo coffee table:
http://www.ikea.ca/PIAimages/36239_PE127309_S3.jpg

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i think my main problem is it takes two cocking hours just to get round the shop which is about half an hour over my shopping tolerence limit. that and the fact that it's packed and in NEASDEN...

you need to know the SHORTCUTS! it's possible to go through the store in 15 minutes. (i know this because i once had to go back there THREE TIMES to order that crazy custom parts wardrobe thing - the one that you had to collect off-site at the stupid EXEL warehouse place.. fuck i hate that place)

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 10 October 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I dislike the fact that it pretends to be trendy Swedish furniture while in fact it's all made in China.

Of course, it's easy to be sniffy about Ikea when you live in Ireland, where they are not allowed to build one of their monstro stores within fifty miles of Dublin and therefore have refused to build one at all.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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mmmmmmmeatballs...

― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Ikea. Cheap, well-designed, mass-produced furniture. I always just look at the online catalogue and pick what I want to buy, check stock levels, and drive down to the shop to pick it up. I recenlty bought their largest available dining table as my new desk, and it's fantastic. (almost 3 metres long!)

I've had my Ikea construction abilities draw crowds (okay, my ex-housemate and his girlfriend). I'm like some kind of Zen Ikea Master, able to simply look at the component parts and fittings, and instantly discern their configuration. (Having put together ridiculous amounts of the stuff in the past helps.)

Also, the names of the products are great. SPRÜD, FÜNKLE, etc. If ILX was an Ikea product, what would it be called?

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, FUNKLE is already taken? Um....

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ASSHAT

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

FUX0R

― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

there is an ALANG lamp...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

fuck you Markor tv stand that i can't put together! go back to sweden or china and shove a fucking cinnamon bun up your wooden ass.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

It seems that Dublin city planners have relented and we will have an IKEA monstro store next year sometime. Great, now there'll be even more shit furniture for kids to throw on bonfires at Hallowe'en.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

If in doubt, just add nails

― Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

i may just do that. another reason that its so frustrating is the screws they give you strip instantly with my power drill.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

If you can't put together the Markor TV stand then there is no hope for you. I'm sorry.

Why do people have ANY trouble putting together IKEA furniture? Have you ever had to put together any REAL furniture in your entire life? This shit is like LEGO! I swear!

― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Also if you are using a power drill to put together INDOOR FURNITURE you should seek professional help.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I AM LAZY. ITS NOT THE STAND ITS THE ARMOIRE THING.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I will say a staple gun comes in very handy for attaching that cardboard backing. And a ratcheting screwdriver is pretty crucial. But power drills = overkill for anything indoors unless you are actually drilling holes and IKEA furniture in general all comes with directions, usually IKEA's directions are about 10x clearer than the directions you get from typical carpentry shops that charge 2 or 3 times as much.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 4 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

if i had power tools i'd build my own damn shelf.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

easy unless there's actually a problem

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

TOMBOT OTM, apart fom the power drill bit. SO much time is saved by electrialy driving your screws. Double OTM about the staple gun especially is it can do brad nails as well.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

I have soft gurl hands and even a ratcheting screwdriver gives me blisters. It is a pain to have to go put on my bikini every time I use power tools though.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

send pictures, pls.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

thats the reason for the power drill...that and the fact i have severe tendonitis in my elbow and the "screwing" motion makes it flare up. maybe if the directions had some sort of instructions besides a picture of a plank with an arrow. i are dumb.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

A friend suggested I try pear cider - available from Ikea.

This thread reminded me, I shall buy it and try it tonight.

― Rumpie, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I like the weird Scandinavian food at IKEA. I was tempted to buy my dad some lutefisk there cause he was forced to eat it as a kid, and I wonder, can it really be THAT bad? (probably is)

I have to take a run to IKEA this weekend. I don't particularly love putting together the furniture but it isn't hard! At my last apartment I found an IKEA desk almost brand new that the across-the-street neighbors had left out for someone to take, and I had to reassemble it without photos or directions. that was fun. I thought of it more like Tetris than Lego for some reason.. probably because a few trial and errors had several pieces of IKEA pressboard come crashing down on my head.

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

OH god, I am going to do anything to avoid having Ikea in my new home. Even if it means buying all my furniture at Oxfam or THE WORLD WOULD SIT ON OUR SEATS and other furniture rehab stores.

― Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

There's a Salvation Army store in the West End that a colleague of mine swears has some fabulous furniture.

I think it's in Partick but I may be wrong, and I'm not entirely sure what her concept of 'fabulous furniture' is.

― Rumpie, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

To all frustrated would-be assemblers:

Seriously, get one electric screwdriver. You won't regret it.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

There is a similar Salvation Army Furniture store in Wandsworth in London.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I was tempted to buy my dad some lutefisk there cause he was forced to eat it as a kid, and I wonder, can it really be THAT bad?

YES IT CAN

― Dan (ARRRRRGH RUN AWAY) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

But the lutefisk loves you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm lutefisk

― Ed (dali), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

For small projects, I highly recommend this palm-sized Skil cordless screwdriver. It plugs in to recharge (rather than taking a separate batter), it doesn't over power small screws.

I use it to put drawer pulls and knobs on cabiets, it's a real improvement on screwing in a hundred knobs upside down.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Dan, the hell? Did someone's Swedish grandmother get a hold of you or did you attend a Lutheran church dinner? As much Minnesotan/Scandinavian pride as he has, my dad never, ever tried to make us eat lutefisk.

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

The pear cider was....disappointing.

I really enjoyed the Glogg though - Swedish Mulled Wine. Yum yum.

Search: The mint filled chocolates (kinda like minty Rolos), the little wafers called Keks (tee hee)

Destroy: The evil pear cider

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Was it Kopparbergs pear cider? I like it. You can get it in Wetherspoons pubs now apprently.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

But it's like, alcohol free, what is teh point of that?!

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

They served it in our high school cafeteria one year. I don't think I've ever fully recovered from that experience.

― Dan (*Shudder*) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

dan will never be bobby hill

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

sadly, because that's how i've been imagining him the whole time

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

i had it last year at my norwegian inlaws for xmas, i almost vomited all over the table.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Tip for driving screws: rub the screw threads on a dry (like never-used dry) bar of soap first. It lubricates the screw without staining the wood.

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i hate ikea too but that one big square shelving unit is a pretty good affordable solution for storing too many records

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/30353_PE103235_S3.jpg
this fucker

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, that does look handy. Do they have a smaller version?

I've kind of warmed to Ikea - they have a lot of reasonably-priced stuff that seems very considerate of the modern apartment-dweller's needs (i.e., my new entertainment center with adjustable legs for slanted floors). And now that I "get" the assembly, it's pretty easy.

The cd shelves I bought recently, on the other hand, were a bit of a pain. The first ones were the kind you hang on the wall, but they're much heavier than you'd expect and only give you two little screwholes to hang them by and then leave it up to you to decide how to hang the things (what kind of screw/anchor combo, or whatever). That's all well and good, except I rent and I realized I don't want to risk damaging the walls. So I returned them and bought standup ones, which are ok, but they're designed so that it's very difficult to nail on the backing without driving a nail or two through the side of the particle-board.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

after having ikea in oakland and not having it here in nashvegas, we miss it. yeah, the stuff isn't perfect. but it is cheap. it's certainly more appealing to look at.

the wife wants to drive to ATL just for IKEA. see, here, you buy shit that looks like it came from IKEA for over twice as much. it's just ... not good.
m.

― msp (mspa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

They have some plain looking pine bookshelves with 1" think sides and shelves that actually work for records as well. I have 2 different versions, one is just deep enough for a record and one is even deeper. I can't find them on the site though.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

They do an alchoholic and an alchohol free.

Alchohol free booze is rather pointless.

― Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

one big square shelving unit

Those are the best for LP storage! They also make a good room divider/double-sided bookshelf. Versatile and fairly sturdy. We've got 4 of them and have broken them down/moved/set back up 5 or 6 times. We noticed some of the pegs are starting to loosen up on this last move, but all in all, these have been worthy. Other IKEA stuff has been crap - low plastic chairs, ultra-complicated foldup writing desk thing, wool rug that shed for an eternity. But their shelves are good and some of their kitchen storage stuff.

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

we used the effektiv shelves for our record collection. two bases, four tops. it worked pretty well.

― maura (maura), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

I'd vote for Tina Turner over Ikea any day.

― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)

http://202.186.86.35/audio/articles/2005/3/3/audiofile/fender1.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

http://coverart.last.fm/300x300/20905.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

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