Help with Wireless Internet?

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I use a toshiba laptop. We set up a wireless router and booster (Airport/Airport Extreme), and now I'm getting a really good signal, but every so often I get disconnected for a second for no apparent reason. Any idea what this could be?

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Airport is flaky. Do you have an Apple computer? If so, it's look and see if any other wifi networks are near you- they could cause conflicts. Just mouse over the airport signal in the top menu bar (the airport signal icon should be near your clock inthe upper right) and hold down the button- a menu will appear listing all networks in range.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a way to disable the other networks that might be interfering?

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

guns

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Send them Jedi Mind Tricks.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Seems to be working now, thanks for the suggestions.

You don't need to see my network key . . .

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
we have just moved into a new flat and got the phone connected and signed up for broadband and stuff.

I was in the livingroom, today, and noticed a box, unplugged, with "do not unplug" on its plug. it says "InnoWave" and "MultiGain Wireless" and "PCU57V" on it. google tells me InnoWave are an israeli "fixed wireless" company or something but their own website won't load.

the box looks all connected up to the phone line and stuff (I opened it up).

does anyone know anything about InnoWave or whether I can make use of this box? my laptop has wireless junk, in it.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Stop meddling.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

If you go to Network Connections in the Control Panel of your laptop, you should be able to open the properties of your wireless junk and see if it can pick up a signal it can connect to.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 15 July 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I tried that with no effect.

I don't know if the thing's even connected--it is big and old-looking.

: )

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I am currently online via someone else's wireless connection, though.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
OK I've been banging my head against the walls trying to figure this out:
I've just bought a router for my PC. The instructions tell me to link to my cable modem, which I did, and to my PC with an ethernet cable. This part I don't get: what's the point in having a wireless router if it's to link it with a cable.
I've therefore ignored that step. After setting up the whole thing, I can choose between two networks that are mine. One, is listed as secure and has the highest signal, the other, juts called wireless, is unsecure and has a very low signal.
However, whenever I use to the secure connection, I cannot access the internet, although the connection has been properly established.
So now, I'm using the unsecured connection, with a "marginal" signal, but there must be something I could do to get a secure network and a better signal.
As you can tell, I have zero experience with this, so any didcatic help would be much appreciated.

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Monday, 1 May 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

no-one?

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

What sort of security did you set up on the router? I had some access issues (from the wireless connection on the Tivo as well as from PC) due to the type of security I'd set up.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'd have thought the first step involving plugging it to your pc is so that you can initialise it somehow with some form of security.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

or set it up at all!

it's possible that neither of those two wireless connections that you can see are even yours.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Good point Ken - how did you even set it up initially, if you weren't connected to it?

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

yes, you have to link up to them with an ethernet cable at first to set the router up.

HOWEVER, I am having almost an identical problem to baaderonixx. I can't connect to my wireless network from my desktop at all; I can connect to some random unsecure wireless network from my neighborhood (probably from a cafe or a student or something). My laptop connects to my own secure network fine. Any ideas? Because I CAN connect to a network, that rules out my wireless card being bad, and because I can connect to my network with another computer, that rules out my router settings or my internet connection being bad. Actually, to be more precise, I CAN connect to my wireless router from the desktop, but it tells me that that connection has no internet connectivity. I get no such problems connecting from the laptop.

WTF?????

I am using the, er, not WEP security, the other one. I've tried both the Netgear wirless network conneciton program AND the built-in XP wireless software, same results from both.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm now trying to restart the whole thing, but I can't seem to delete the wireless connection I created. Also, the installation cd now won't let me access the setup page (some IP type of adress)

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Kyle, is your desktop set up for DHCP or does it have a static IP? If set up for DHCP, run ipconfig from the command line to see if it is actually picking up an IP from the router. Try ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew from the command line. If set up with a static IP, switch to DHCP and retry.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

did that. it was set up for dhcp (it was previously plugged straight into the cable modem, which works off dhcp now). It was getting an IP from the router. it just told me the router couldn't reach the internet (which is rubbish). it is the weirdest most bewildering thing.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

If you do a tracert to ilx.p3r.net, does it get past the router?

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

i'll check when I'm at home. but pinging anything didn't work.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm inclined to think it may have something to do with norton systemworks firewall settings or something; could it have closed off the ability to connect through wireless to just this network, for some dumb ass reason?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly. Something to check at least. This does sound very weird and annoying.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Weird - after fiddling around with Norton, renewing the IP and running a network diagnostic, it now seems to work OK...

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

although it still feels slower than my previous cable connection. The signal is said to be "very good". Do you automatically lose speed when switching to wireless?

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why do people bother using Norton?

JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

re: Norton

I don't know why. My sister had a heavily infected PC, freaked out, slapped the full Norton on it and tightened it down so much the machine was unusable. A week later, she reformatted (not knowing what else to do) and started back up with just AV and spybot - happier PC.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Like... my dad updated his firefox and it didn't allow the new version to use the internet... ugh

JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

people use norton because they get horrible viruses otherwise when running filesharing networks, etc. however, the last several versions of norton have been so fucking infuriatingly dumbed down, I'm inclined to use something else at this point. you used to have full control over that program, now it's got one bit screen with an on and and off button, and that's it.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

The problem is mostly bundled adware/spyware not "viruses". Norton degrades the performance of a respectable older computer to complete shit also.

JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

If there's no advanced mode or whatever that lets you fine-tune it, that's worthless. Too true on ad/spyware vs. virii - put an unprotected PC on the 'net for 1/2 an hour with IE open and it will be full of crap.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

my router stopped working mysteriously last week, after mrs fiendish dusted it.

luckily, i fixed it.

the end.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

"mysteriously stopped working", in fact. although, given that i find wireless routing something of a mystery, perhaps what i wrote is also true.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

okay, doing a tracert to anything while I'm connected gives me nothing, "unable to resolve target system name". ...
i think the issue is, looking at my wirless pci adaptor box (no fucking manual, of course) that it only support WEP encryption. Is this possible? It's a new card. If it makes a point of saying "provides the highest available level of industry standard 128-bit WEP encryption" but doesn't mention WPA, then that is probably, the problem, no?

WTF kind of new card doesn't support the latest encryption format? fucking netgear, that is who.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Do you need to specify DNS servers from your ISP in the router? I have to on mine (rather than in Windows itself). May not help but just a thought...

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

my wireless internet just doesn't want to work. ever.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

nope, it's a security thing.

someone explain the dumb Keys for me. a passphrase isn't enough? I generate these 20 char things, do I have to copy these all down and...put them on my computer? enter them as the password? why are there four generated but my wireless network connection program only has a field for one?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

Can't help you there. Once I found our wireless wasn't exposed outside of the house (I think due to aluminum cladding or somesuch), I went back to unsecured.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

well I think it's the wpa thing, I'll go buy a new card.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

Any tips on the speed thing? Will a wireless connection always be slower than a cabled one?

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

Found this, if it helps:

http://www.homenethelp.com/802.11b/index.asp

How fast is it (real world)?
A full strength 802.11b signal will get you about 3.5-4.5 Mbps without WEP enabled. With WEP enabled, expect 2.5-3.5 Mbps. As you put walls and distance between your wireless adapter and your access point, your speed will drop. Don’t expect to put more than a few walls between you and your access point.

Realistically, 2Mbps is faster than, say, a 512k DSL connection, but I dont know what speed cable connections run at. If they run at 2+Mb speeds then yeah, with WEP on conceivably you could see a drop in speed/bandwidth. Interference and such will add to it as well (if packets are dropping alla the place, pages take longer to load, and so on)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cabled (ie ethernet) OTOH runs usually at 100Mbps, or at a gig/s if you have a gigabit ethernet NIC.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

aha - thanks! Hmmm, I might go back to my cabled connection then. Pages now take a 3-4 seconds to load and my download speed seems to be peaking at 30kbs...

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

seems that I can't get a decent Skype connection now that I've switched to wireless. Has anyone had this problem?

Baaderonixx rides the neon lights (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 May 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's to do with the ports on your router. Possibly.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. That seems a likely explanation, esp since i'm having problems woth p2ps for exactly this reason. Unfortunately, for some weird reason the setup page of the router (an IP type adress) won't load : "can't establish connection", so I basically can't do anything with my ports...

Baaderonixx rides the neon lights (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

This is why I can't get my iSIGHT camera to work with iCHAT believe it or not. I mean, ffs these are two Apple products! I can't seem to make it work. :-( Or maybe I'm just dumb. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

:-)

JW (ex machina), Sunday, 14 May 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

my wireless connection will now only work if it's unsecured. wep, wpa, no go; won't connect to the internet. netgear you suck

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 15 May 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah yeah Jon LAUGH at the dumb poor bitch who can't get her iSIGHT cam to work with iCHAT. ;-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 15 May 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

So, here's a weird issue: we have two mac laptops on an airport network. They generally get along fine, but sometimes Colette's laptop starts timing out on webpages etc, while mine is fine, and if I turn my airport off then her's starts working again. It's as if my machine is using all our bandwidth. Has anyone seen anything like this?

toby, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

so if my wireless, which has always worked fine, suddenly stops working, what should i check? btw my wired still works.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Start --> Settings --> Control Panel --> Network Connections, right-click on Wireless Network Connection and choose either "View Available Wireless Networks" or "Properties", refresh networks list, hit "Connect" 100 times, look at the "Renewing yoir IP address" box for forever, pull hair out, swear, say fuck it and hook up a really long Ethernet cable to your laptop.

Wireless can go fuck itself.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

yah dude i'm on a mac but that's pretty much been the story so far. i'll have my work pc laptop here on thurs to see if i should blame my comp or my network.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

I have Clearwire, which is advertised as wireless but really isn't. Rather commonly it just stops working and I find unplugging the power cord and plugging it back in again always fixes it.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

I had an old Netcomm router on which the wireless died but the ethernet still worked. And then the ethernet wouldnt work either unless you dropped it to 10mb/s which is a bit silly. Turned out to be a factory fault in that model. A badly soldered dry joint or something bizarre!

one art, please (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

But yeah if having to reboot a modem all the time is a fix for it, it's probably time to get a new modem :)

one art, please (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i've done the reboot multiple times as well. jesus, this router is less than a year old.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

xpost to Trayce

Haha, well that would be very true except that this modem was a replacement for one which really did entirely quit working, so I was just happy that this one worked at all! Furthermore, they charged ME for the shipping to send the last one back!

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

I usually just go buy my own modem from a Tandy or Officeworks, Netcomm, Netgear and Linksys DSL modems are all pretty affordable anyways. I guess if you're on cable with some specialist ISP-only router thats not an option tho.

one art, please (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

Well, the prob is that in my area I can't get DSL. That would be ideal. It's either this or getting a cable modem which means I have to have cable TV along with it and that's more money for something I don't even want.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

my shit kept dropping all the time, it was making me insane, it was the modem. make sure your modem isn't frying, mine was hot to the touch.

akm, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)


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