Sleep sex - stretching the limits of plausibility here slightly

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Sleepwalkers who have 'sex sleep'

Imagine finding unexplained condoms around your house and then waking up one night to find your partner having sex with a stranger.
It might sound like an affair, but what if your 'cheating' partner was fast asleep during the act?

The phenomenon, called sleep sex, was described to doctors at a meeting in Australia.

Sleep physician Peter Buchanan, from Sydney's Royal Alfred Hospital, described this real life case.

Mr Buchanan told the Australasian Sleep Association how a patient of his, who was a respectable middle-aged woman with a steady partner, would leave the house while sleepwalking and have sex with strangers.

The woman was totally unaware of her double life until her partner became suspicious and found her engaged in the act.

"He was aware of some sleepwalking and there was circumstantial evidence, including the unexplained presence of condoms around the house," Mr Buchanan told the conference.

Mr Buchanan ran a series of tests on the woman and diagnosed her problem - sleep sex.

Whatever they are dreaming about, which at that time is their reality, they actually do

This is a condition completely distinct from sleepwalking and is a form of sleep disorder called REM behavioural disorder.

Normally, when a person enters the deepest phase of sleep, the REM (rapid eye movement) phase in which we dream, our bodies are immobilised.

In the case of sleep sex, this doesn't happen and the person can act out their dreams.

UK sleep expert Neil Stanley from the Human Psychopharmacology Research Unit at Surrey University explained.

"In some people, it can be genetic or in others it is triggered by alcohol or stress, they do not lose the muscle tone.

"So that means whatever they are dreaming about, which at that time is their reality, they actually do."

He said if what the person was acting out fitted with the dream they might not wake up.

"If you are lying there dreaming about having sex with your wife and you just happen to be having sex with your wife then there's nothing there to stop the dream. You don't perceive that as wrong."

He said there were documented cases where people had committed murders in their sleep.

"There is a case in English law where a guy was beating his girlfriend over the head with a video recorder and she was screaming at him."

He said the man only woke up when the girlfriend said "I love you".

"Probably that was such a stupid thing in his dream that did not fit that it woke him up.

"It's like when you hear the phone in the middle of your dream and you wake up."

He said people would not necessarily remember what they had done while they were dreaming.

"You only remember your dreams if you wake up during them.

"But even then, it can be very difficult to comprehend that you have done what you dreamed about."

He said finding out what was the trigger of the REM behavioural disorder and eliminating it could help.

Other treatments include medications to induce sleep or reduce muscle tone.

Mr Buchanan said almost half of all sleep sex cases were associated with psychological problems and, in the case of the woman he described, psychotherapy helped.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 October 2004 08:53 (twenty years ago)

I am confused as to how these men get the strangers to have sex with them. Are they sleep sexing too? Are our streets filled with sex zombies?

"Hello, will you sleep with me?"

Alba (Alba), Friday, 15 October 2004 08:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm just presuming that if I lurched up to someone, dishevelled and dazed and started trying to kiss them passionately while fumbling with my trousers, no one would ever notice the difference.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Lucky the strangers use condoms, I guess.

I liked There is a case in English law where a guy was beating his girlfriend over the head with a video recorder. It sounds somehow like it could have only happened in England.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah - sex sleepers get action so easy!

This is a condition completely distinct from sleepwalking and is a form of sleep disorder called REM behavioural disorder.

sleep-tofu-eating

ken c (ken c), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

Or is it always women? I don't know what I'd do if a sleeping woman walked up to me in the street and tried to have sex. I can't see it working, somehow. Or happening. No, this is ridiculous.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

almost half of all sleep sex cases were associated with psychological problems

So having sex with people when you are asleep/claiming to have sex with people while you are asleep isn't a psychological problem?

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

It's a moral minefield.

"Hmmm. They appear to want to have sex with me. They also appear to be asleep. And married. Oh what the hey".

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I can see how someone would be lying in bed with their partner and then start having sex while asleep, that's plausible. Its the bit about going out and finding someone to sex with that I don't get. Especially while having the presence of mind to use a condom.

I like the bit about the guy trying to murder his girlfriend while asleep.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:07 (twenty years ago)

sounds a bit convenient to me.

But she caught me on the counter
"I was asleep"
Saw me Bangin on the sofa
"I was asleep"
I even had her in the shower
"I was asleep"
She even caught me on camera
"I was asleep"
She saw the marks on my shoulder
"I was asleep"
Heard the words that I told her
"I was asleep"
Heard the screams getting louder
"I was asleep"
She stayed until it was over

ken c (ken c), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:07 (twenty years ago)

"UK sleep expert Neil Stanley from the Human Psychopharmacology Research Unit at Surrey University"

This is what i want to be when I grow up.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago)

The research would be great.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Matt this totally isn't a viable plan.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago)

http://www.everycowboysdream.com/saloon/sleep_after_sex.jpg

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 October 2004 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Human men?!!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Well that's obv. a Horse Man, Pinx!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago)

http://web.org.uk/picasso/PHorse.jpg

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:55 (twenty years ago)

As opposed to a male horse?
x-post
Now that's a horse man!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 15 October 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Are our streets filled with sex zombies?

"Hello, will you sleep with me?"

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/metrotv/02/date/overview.htm

Cynthia Nixon Now More Than Ever (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago)

xpost

No, it's a Man Horse!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago)

This horse man, man horse debate will be the end of us all.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago)

http://as.wn.com/i/c3/ebe6bc9e1c2c70.jpg

ken c (ken c), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago)

I shall bear this in mind as an excuse if I am ever caught in infidelity.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:16 (twenty years ago)

"racy adventures of 10 real-life single women"

"cameras followed seven of the women"

"The other four women"

Number of women in cast = 9.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago)

mmmm local access programming

Cynthia Nixon Now More Than Ever (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 15 October 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago)

that whole murder thing--a guy from my class at school tried to murder his wife in his sleep apparently. i can't remember if he was sentenced or if he got off, it had been really violent and was too disturbing to read about.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago)

asleep style

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago)


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