anyone see john stewart on crossfire?

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i hear he called tucker carlson a dick!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounds great. I'm just waiting for a torrent.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. WOW.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i hear he called tucker carlson a dick!

that's the least of it

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/breaking-jon-stewart-states-the-obvious-023528.php

Damn I wish I had seen it.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Stewart gives a fuck anymore.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez. I want a full transcript now!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

He was right on. And Tucker is a dick. It was great.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Evidently this show has been a sore spot with Stewart for years. From a CNN interview in 2002:

KURTZ: So you don't, you're not confusing yourself with a quote, "real journalist"?

STEWART: No. You guys are...

KURTZ: You're just making fun...

STEWART: You guys are confusing yourselves with real journalists.

KURTZ: Oh boy, you're loaded (UNINTELLIGIBLE) today.

STEWART: Instead of putting on shows like "CROSSFIRE" and "Gotcha" and "I'm Going To Kick Your Ass With Tucker Carlson" and "Let's Beat Up The Short Guy." That was just one that I...

KURTZ: I'm glad you're at least watching so much CNN, Jon.

STEWART: I am watching it constantly. It's driving me insane. Make the ticker stop. You're in the middle of a damn sniper story, and all of a sudden underneath it, you know, "Liza Minnelli's first VH1 show to air."

KURTZ: There's a new thing out called...

STEWART: What?

KURTZ: There's a new thing out called remote control. We'll have to get you one.

STEWART: But you're the news. That works for entertainment. People need you. Help us. Help us.

KURTZ: Thank you for making us feel needed, Jon Stewart. Thanks for sharing.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

also from that interview.

KURTZ: I could host "CROSSFIRE."

STEWART: Well, yes, you could host "CROSSFIRE." What's that got to do with journalism? I mean, that's just a couple of knuckleheads. I mean, the promo for that is Bob Novak in a boxing outfit. I mean, for God's sakes, somehow I don't imagine Edward R. Murrow ever putting on the satin robe and going, "I'll destroy you."

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I would pay good money to see this!

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

They're playing this back on Air America right now...

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.asp

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Just missed it, I think.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

So did I. :(

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the show leading into me is PUPPETS MAKING CRANK CALLS WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

check the Daily Show book for its section on the media, and he pretty much does the same thing on its first page, where he starts asking "What the fuck happened?".

"You're supposed to be helping us, you indecent piles of shit! I...fuck it. Just fuck it..."

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, amusing. I suspect it would mean more to me if I knew Carlson or Begala's work more, admittedly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Paul Begala apparently looks like Kermit the Frog.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

they played a little of it in the newsbreak, which means they'll probably re-run during The Majority Report.

this makes up for the Daily Show taking the last week off...

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Crossfire repeat?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

here's the AP article on the book that CNN ran two days ago.

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

CARLSON: Kerry won't come on this show. He will come on your show.
STEWART: Right.
CARLSON: Let me suggest why he wants to come on your show.
STEWART: Well, we have civilized discourse.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

christ, this is great.

CARLSON: Wait. I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. Be funny.
STEWART: No. No. I'm not going to be your monkey.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: Go ahead. Go ahead.
STEWART: I watch your show every day. And it kills me.
CARLSON: I can tell you love it.
STEWART: It's so -- oh, it's so painful to watch.

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ARLSON: But, if Kerry gets elected, is it going to -- you have said you're voting for him. You obviously support him. It's clear. Will it be harder for you to mock his administration if he becomes president?
STEWART: No. Why would it be harder?
CARLSON: Because you support...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: The only way it would be harder is if his administration is less absurd than this one. So, in that case, if it's less absurd, then, yes, I think it would be harder. But, I mean, it would be hard to top this group, quite frankly.

STEWART: In terms of absurdity and their world matching up to the one that -- you know, it was interesting. President Bush was saying, John Kerry's rhetoric doesn't match his record.
But I've heard President Bush describe his record. His record doesn't match his record.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say something really effusively positive and lionizing about Stewart, but most comedians that comment on politics turn into pompous puds so quickly that I'm afraid to jinx this.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

true, but Jon has a MASSIVE amount of self-loathing, which has been keeping the pomposity in check.

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

it can't be self-loathing. See Janeane Garofalo. I think it's simply self-awareness.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

can't it be both?

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Latest on Wonkette:

"We're thinking that Tucker shouldn't have been so surprised: Stewart just was doing what politicians on that show do every day -- pander to their base. "

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/breaking-wonkette-calls-someone-tries-this-reporting-thing-023530.php

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"But I've heard President Bush describe his record. His record doesn't match his record."

Hahahahaha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The NRO Corner crew is apparently annoyed that he wasn't funny. I do weep.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

cool, I knew there was a reason I kept crossfire on my tivo season pass.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The NRO Corner crew is apparently annoyed that he wasn't funny

Odd. I'm laughing.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

thank god for john stewart.

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

plus I saw the word [LAUGHTER] a lot in the transcript.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked this part:

BEGALA: Let me get this straight. If the indictment is -- if the indictment is -- and I have seen you say this -- that...

STEWART: Yes.

BEGALA: And that CROSSFIRE reduces everything, as I said in the intro, to left, right, black, white.

STEWART: Yes.

BEGALA: Well, it's because, see, we're a debate show.

STEWART: No, no, no, no, that would be great.

BEGALA: It's like saying The Weather Channel reduces everything to a storm front.

STEWART: I would love to see a debate show.

BEGALA: We're 30 minutes in a 24-hour day where we have each side on, as best we can get them, and have them fight it out.

STEWART: No, no, no, no, that would be great. To do a debate would be great. But that's like saying pro wrestling is a show about athletic competition.

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

There WAS a lot of laughter and the audience seemed to love it.

― Chris Marx, Friday, 15 October 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Teeny, is there anyway you could put the show on Slsk?

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a torrent

― Tucker Carlson, Friday, 15 October 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

rock. got it.

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

awesome.

― Smokin' funk by the boxes (kenan), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

God that was good.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

christ these guys never SHUT UP

also, as they were going off-air, jon loudly remarked, "this went GREAT!"

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Best television ever

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

how do I open or use or amplify or extract these little torrents on that site?

― tremendoid, Saturday, 16 October 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Download and install a bittorrent client (such as this one) first.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 16 October 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll probably need to wait until I see it to judge, but the transcript makes Stewart seem very upset and angry from the start. He seems quite emotional about it, I wonder if anything happened between them before the show? It sounds good though - I'm downloading it at the moment.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 16 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Stewart just hates *Crossfire* (which is understandable to me.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 16 October 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The audience was laughing -- but it was a pretty chilly affair overall.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 October 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

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I haven't been watching the Daily Show for very long, but he seems pretty centrist to me. The politicians on the right happen to be in power right now, which makes them more public, which makes them easier to pick on. They also happen to be bat-shit crazy, many of them. So of course it's easier to pick on the right. But he's gotten some Kerry jabs in and I believe he will have plenty to needle him on when he gets elected.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he's upset with crossfire for never revealing how they really feel, and only repeating talking points, rather than having a core set of principles and getting upset with any politician that deviates from them regradless of party. Stewart is a liberal, but he's always polite to his conservative guests (telling the crowd not to boo or applaud his laugh lines), and he is sincere in stating his beliefs when he talks to either libs or cons. Also, my unscientific observation is that he has way more righties than lefties on his show. So the crossfire denunciation wasn't about left or right, it was about media insincerity.

― Sympatico (shmuel), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think jon stewart's issue with crossfire is their insincerity but rather that they serve no purpose. they pretend to be this "hard hitting news show" but really they just yell left & right talking points at one another and don't give anyone a chance to explain issues & stances on a meaningful level. it seems like in the american news these days people either ask non-questions (like on the today show or whatever, just pander to the politician's point of view and give them a chance to reiterate their talking points) or berrate them entirely, thus not letting them speak or only giving them enough time to spew half a talking point before moving onto something else. there is no, as stewart said, 'civilized discourse'.

that said, despite being on comedy central, stewart really has an opportunity to implement that himself. it's a comedy show, yes, but as he has the chance to improve political journalism -- why not take it? if you're going to have john kerry on the show you might as well ask him something that matters -- and show people what you MEAN by civilized discourse. lead by example. it's much easier to say, "american news is shit!" than to actually do something about it.

― j c (j c), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

He was cowed by Kerry. It was too big a guest for him. There are plenty of people, however, that he's not cowed by, and ends up engaging in something approaching civilized discourse, or at least making them look like asses by asking questions he knows they won't answer.

― Hank Tenbeer (kenan), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's true, but then i wouldn't be impressed with tucker carlson if he managed to ask great questions and engage in civilized discourse -- except when he had a guest on with political clout.

― j c (j c), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

John's guests have political clout, they're just not the headliners.

― Hank Tenbeer (kenan), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

For instance, he's not cowed at all by Bill O'Reilly.

― Hank Tenbeer (kenan), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a single journalist in america cowed by bill o'reilly? it's one thing to challenge people who you've no or little respect for -- and who everyone routinely challenges -- and quite another to seriously question someone who other people aren't. and bill o'reilly didn't really say anything on stewart's show anyway, so insofar as creating an intelligent & civilized discourse there, he failed.

and yeah yeah it's supposed to be a comedy show, i know. and it's not as if bill o'reilly would answer questions for ANYONE without bullshitting... but it just seems like before stewart goes out on a crusade to better the media he could start with his own show.

― j c (j c), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a little annoyed by Stewart's pomposity and self-importance on CF but enjoyed seeing Begala and Carlson squirm was well worth it. The 'I'm not going to be your monkey,' line was classic. I like jc's point above. DS is about mocking the increasingly vapid coverage of the news in this country. Even when disingenuous, Stewart is funny. CF is neither funny, nor informative. It dreates more heat than light and Stewart was right to give them shit 'cause almost no other guests can afford to do that now. Re: the bump. Stewart did mention it at one point on DS, but since all the jokes were obvious and already all over the web, I think he decided to go with the downplay. I mean, these guys do use teleprompters for speeches and calling Bush dumb is hardly news.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The politicians on the right happen to be in power right now, which makes them more public, which makes them easier to pick on. They also happen to be bat-shit crazy, many of them.
I think that post required some bold reposting, because it is so damned true....and all the Republican voters need to come to grips with this.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Guano Loco" is what I say in front of mixed company.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://morrisseymusic.com/images/mozstewart.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 28 October 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught that today. Man's got good taste.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 October 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Some fangirl made that shirt for him! (Not me.)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It took me a few seconds to realize who that was.

I saw the clip of him on C-SPAN, and I realized what might have already been mentioned on this thread: The reason he isn't "serious" about how he feels about shows like Crossfire on the Daily Show is because that wouldn't be funny, and the Daily Show has to remain funny if it is going to have any viewers. He can throw in a few jabs, but he can't be serious in any sustained way on his show -- it just doesn't work there.

That is, however, what Crossfire (and C-SPAN) are supposed to be about -- serious talk about serious issues. And that's why he had to do what he did on their show, rather than on his own show.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 October 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

classic stuff. i fear that it is not going to spark much of a movement in the mainstream media, though.

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Thursday, 28 October 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Ha ha, owned.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

CNN will probably fold "Crossfire" into its other programming, perhaps as an occasional segment on the daytime show "Inside Politics," said Jonathan Klein, who was appointed in late November as chief executive of CNN's U.S. network.
Klein on Wednesday told Carlson, one of the four "Crossfire" hosts, that CNN would not be offering him a new contract. Carlson has reportedly been talking with MSNBC about a prime-time opening replacing Deborah Norville.
Carlson did not immediately return a call to his cell phone for comment.
The bow-tied wearing conservative pundit got into a public tussle last fall with comic Jon Stewart, who has been critical of cable political programs that devolve into shoutfests.

"I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp," Klein told The Associated Press.

HA HA HA HA

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

"I doubt that when the president sits down with his advisers they scream at him to bring him up to date on all of the issues," he said. "I don't know why we don't treat the audience with the same respect."

PWNED

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

That's awesome!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

"Welcome to 'Inside Edition'! I'm Tucker Carlson (please someone kill me)."

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

RIP

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha, gabbneb.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

It's time to pour a 40.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

If only we had that gif animation.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

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― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

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― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

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― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

thwak!

http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/articles/images/3698_1.jpg

― cathy berberian (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

Now a title bout with Bob Novak!

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

the goggles &c.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

How long before he shows up on FOX "news"?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

he's already got a pbs show.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

i doubt carlson will be on fox news. they don't need his pussy ass.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

He's the one with the purse, right? (XP)

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

Tucker Carlson occupies the same role for conservatives in the media landscape that Colmes does for liberals. Colmes is a pale-faced, paint-by-numbers loser whose only job is to be a believable liberal for people who live in trailers. Carlson is CNN's idea of a conservative. His right-wing ideas come from his changeable, expensive brains instead of his stomach. In the same way that the helpless, ineffectual Colmes is a reassuring image to hardcore conservatives, Carlson puts a soothing face on conservatism for educated East-coast progressives—because even the biggest neo-Marxist wanker from Brown takes one look at Carlson and sees the one man in America he would feel sure of being able to kick the shit out of in a back alley.This is an excellent article about him.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

uh no, not at all

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I'd bet that even you, gabbneb, could kick the shit out of Carlson in a back alley.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

Mo Rocca could totally beat the snot out of Tucker Carlson.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

Does anybody on Fox News rock a bowtie? Bowties point towards the ears where neckties focus the eye down low. I'd think Fox News wouldn't want a conservative around who doesn't let his nuts hang.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

Tucker could take me. He's pretty mean. In fact, I'd love to see Tucker take Mo Rocca. I'd love to see Novak take Mo Rocca.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

seriously, he's pretty fit-looking

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

Okay you can stop.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Mo Rocca is possibly one of the coolest men alive:

http://pedanticbohemian.home.comcast.net/morocks.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

(I think I'm glad I never actually have seen Crossfire -- or any political show these days, actually. It would be bad for my peace of mind. Hmm, a thought for a new thread...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

Mo Rocca is the devil

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

I mean, Larry King likes him

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

http://bontv.web.infoseek.co.jp/images/pete4.jpg

Carlson has been P3T3 BUR|\|ZD!

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 6 January 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

"AND I!!!!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm going to waste more time by making up a PWNED pic of Carlson, just because..

Mo Rocca = Farnsworth Bentley

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

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