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have you seen the cover? ahahahah! that is so funny, did someone have a megagrudge against Morrissey or something?

― gareth, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Morrissey is apparently v unhappy with it :)

How come Best-Ofs by bands I like always look terribly drab to me and ones by bands I don't always have a dark appeal? (Case in point - hideously designed SIMPLE MINDS 2-CDer. Oh of course I only want it for "I Travel" I try to tell myself, YEAH RIGHT.)

― Tom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is that the one with Charles Hawtrey on it? it's very random isn't it?

― katie, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think I'd be unhappy with it if I was Moz spending all that time and effort creating a wonderful visual world for the band and then some hack comes along a few years later and thinks "Hmm...Smiths best- of...better just slap some berk from the 50s on the front, that'll do".

― DG, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I say ban all Best ofs! Boring! Yet another recycled Abba Bee Gees Bob Marley Bananarama Kim Wilde Simple Minds sell 6 copies between them. Don't want to hear ANY digitally remastered old shit want to hear new shit unless Jay-Z then rather hear original records sampled truly Jay-Z is Freddie Starr of rap will do duet with Robbie Williams and Woolpackers "Achy Breaky Heart" on primetime Saturday ITV in 15 years' time.

Guess at TE's favourite album by "ver Minds" - Street Fighting Years (let it all - LET IT ALL COME DOWWWWWWOOOONNNN!).

Is their cover of "Sign 'O' The Times" on it? Greatest moment of Western art surpasses even Mr Roboto by Styx. Where's THEIR best of?

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't Moz once say that he preferred C. Hawtrey to K. Williams tho'?

― Andrew L, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

changesonebowie was good, as are ALL rolling stones compilations

― mark s, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All Best Ofs are grate by definition the bands best album. Greatest Hits can be more of a whim of the RBP - who Tom has been shaking his fist at this morning.

― Pete, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't trust the opinions of anyone who buys less than three best- ofs a year.

The Simple Minds album I'm quivering to re-evaluate is actually the (surely awful but maybe just maybe) Sparkle In The Rain.

― Tom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

producer = the late krusty mccoll's husband iirc => a winnah

― mark s, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Got Isley brothers g. hits at weekend, much better than dreary old Moz and fat old Jimker and a much,much better sleeve (purple flares with gold trim, hmmm nice).

Ironic C Hawtrey on cover of Smiths LP as wasn't grandad prosecutor or something of Moz's true love Oscar Wilde?

― Billy Dods, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is this yet another Smiths best-of? What the fuck, is Morrissey still paying off his lawyers for his stupid lawsuit or what?

Re Best of the Best-Ofs: Changesonebowie, Kinks Kronikles, Decade, and Have I Offended Someone?

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was flipping through the channels last night and happenedupon LA pool party presented by Jayne Middlemiss, Lisa Snowdon (filmed getting a colonic!!!) and some other woman. But they did a piece on the huge hispanic following Mozzer has in East LA, was this a spoof? or are there really a load of hispanic bedsit miserabilists in LA?

― chris, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That rings a bell, Chris - was it a repeat?

― Madchen, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have no idea Madchen, as I say I was just flicking through the channels after Jackass finished and found that. The sight of Lisa Snowdon getting a colonic made me laugh a lot though, as did the coastguard who fronted a smiths tribute band singing in the most awful attempt at an English accent I've ever heard.

― chris, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's all rather confusing really.

― Confused Person, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But they did a piece on the huge hispanic following Mozzer has in East LA, was this a spoof? or are there really a load of hispanic bedsit miserabilists in LA?

Yes there are! Very much so, and they're not all that miserable. Don't ask me to explain it, but yes, the Moz has a *HUGE* following in Chicano culture here. When I saw him in 1997 he mentioned at one point about how he wished he had been born Mexican -- what seemed like the entire crowd shouted its approval, I looked around and by god, most of the crowd *was* Mexican-American. Same was true at more recent shows - - seeing a bunch of tough cholos sitting around their car in the parking lot blasting Smiths tunes at full volume is an amazing sight. If nothing else, it's a beautiful kick in the teeth (or should that be 'boot in the crotch') to theories of what people are 'supposed' to like. THERE IS NO LAW!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it is odd, there were two heavily tattooed blokes sat on the bonnet of a low-rider saying "yeah, we'd be out gang-banging or dealing drugs if it wasn't for Morrissey"!! then they showed off their tattoos of the be-quiffed one. Quite surreal

― chris, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Morrissey loves the *idea* of being surrounded by hot, sweaty, exuberant cholo boys. This is where he went after exploring his skinedd fetish.

― suzy, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ah! the fetishization of 'the other' again! i'm trying to get my friend to send me a copy of an excellent essay she wrote on Morrissey and Masculinities.

― gareth, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can you get her to send the essay to me as well, Gareth?

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sure Robin. its actually on disk form apparently, so if it ever does arrive i'm going to put it on my site.

― gareth, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't Moz once say that he preferred C. Hawtrey to K. Williams tho'?

Yeah, he said something in praise of Hawtrey in an interview and they changed it to Williams in the copy. He mentioned it in another interview later on, and suggested that maybe they thought no one would know who Charles Hawtrey was. It is a lame-assed cover though. Morrissey might well have liked him, but Smiths covers had a very distinctive glamour to them and a geeky picture of Hawtrey just jars.

― Nick, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

LA Pool Party = on BBC Choice right now, Smiths fans later in show.

― Graham, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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