This is a good day for the Miss America Organization

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ABC drops Miss America, leaving pageant without network TV deal
ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — ABC is dropping Miss America, leaving the beauty pageant without a network television deal for the first time in 50 years.
ABC, which had carried the annual telecast since 1997 with a series of one-year contracts, notified Miss America Organization officials that they will not pick up the option this year, Arthur McMaster, the organization’s acting president and chief executive, said Wednesday.
“This is a good day for the Miss America Organization,” he said.
“We are now free to pursue other parties who have expressed interest in our organization, and we are excited at the limitless opportunities that are now available for us to grow our brand.”

Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The embarassed silence that followed Mr. McMaster's announcement left much to be desired.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG MOVE IT TO FOX AND THROW IN A FIREARM COMPETITION

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"By 'brand' I mean 'erection'."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

And now, Miss Utah will demonstrate the awesome killing power of the AK-47.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

as it develops:

ABC drops Miss America, leaving pageant’s TV future uncertain
ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — ABC has dropped Miss America, leaving the famous beauty pageant without a network TV outlet for the first time in 50 years.
The network, which had carried the annual telecast since 1997 with a series of one-year contracts, notified Miss America Organization officials that they will not pick up the option this year, acting President and CEO Arthur McMaster said Wednesday.
“We are now free to pursue other parties who have expressed interest in our organization, and we are excited at the limitless opportunities that are now available for us to grow our brand,” he said.
The move, which comes on the heels of a Sept. 18 pageant that drew a record low 9.8 million viewers, could jeopardize the foundation of a program that grew from an Atlantic City publicity stunt into a TV icon, largely on the strength of the contest and crowning beamed into millions of living rooms each September.
Since Lee Meriwether was crowned on Sept. 11, 1954 in the first televised pageant, Miss America has grown into a non-profit corporation that makes available more than $40 million US annually in scholarship aid and oversees 52 local pageants.
“It’s certainly an ominous sign,” said former CEO Leonard Horn. “Whether or not they can get a contract with another network is going to be very important.”
ABC officials didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.
ABC, which took over Miss America after 30-year sponsor NBC lost interest in 1996, has had rocky relations with Miss America officials in recent years, in part because of the sinking ratings.
McMaster, who had pressed the network to move Miss America to a weeknight and televise some part of its three nights of preliminary competition, said the pageant was happy to part ways with ABC.
“There’s already been companies that have contacted us and expressed an interest,” he said. “This thing’s been around for 84 years and it’ll be around for another 84. I’m not going to say I’m not worried, but I think there’s much more out there.”
Without a network, Miss America would lose its chief asset — a nationally televised spectacle.
Moreover, the loss deals the Miss America Organization a financial blow. In 2003, ABC paid $5.6 million US for the rights to televise it.
“There’s no doubt, TV is the catalyst that keeps this company going. But it’s not a one-night-a-year organization. It’s a 52-weeks-a-year organization. We want to grow beyond that one night,” said McMaster.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Note to Miss America Organization: Bring Back Lee Meriwether!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think reality TV has sort of eclipsed anything anyone ever wanted to get out of Miss America except for the sense that it "mattered" who won, which I'm pretty sure evaporated several years ago. They need to either go all-out and make them jump out of planes / eat cat testicles or go to the other extreme and institute an all-virgin rule.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG VIRGINS EATING CAT TESTICLES IN EVENINGWEAR FOR A $25,000 SCHOLARSHIP *runs to the networks*

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

To be enforced by John Tesh!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

They need to either go all-out and make them jump out of planes / eat cat testicles or go to the other extreme and institute an all-virgin rule.

Nah, I don't think either tactic is much of an option for them. There's too much HISTORY involved in the pageant; any kind of whiplash change would just piss off its current demographic and fail to convince the youngsters.

Though to add naked humiliation to the pageant's warp and woof would probably make all manner of feminists (myself included) say they finally amped up a misogyny that was sort of there in embryo all along.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I was kind of kidding, see. I think they're just screwed; they can't go all Foxish and it'd take a decade at least to put some sort of glamorous big-event sheen back on the thing. As is it's a televised scholarship competition for not-necessarily-pretty girls; who needs to see that?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

not-necessarily-pretty girls!!!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay well maybe that's personal, but as far as I'm concerned beauty-pageant pretty is kind of like ballet and dog shows: there's this arbitrary archaic "perfect form" everyone's shooting for that no longer has anything to do with what's actually pretty. I don't know that it ever did. The result is ostensibly "well-featured" beauty queens who mostly have somewhat horselike faces and bodies you wouldn't necessarily ever want to touch. Maybe that's just me -- I'm kind of against showy gums, while apparently by human-dog-show pageants showy gums are indicative of "good breeding" -- but whatever, I said it. They're not particularly a treat to look at, not in any sense I'm familiar with. They look like annoying girls you'd meet in business school, which is surely mostly what they are.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird. The rerun of the Seinfeld where he dates Miss Rhode Island was on last night, this morning I watched the Father Ted episode with the Lovely Girls Competition before I went to work, and now this. Apparently my TV-watching activities effect the flow of the universe.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

PHWOAR LOOK AT THE GUMS ON HER FNARR FNARR (Seriously, does anyone think this when they look at Miss America contestants? Or actually get past the "Wow, she's wearing a metric ton of makeup" stage?)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I suspect that any woman people in general could agree really has some sort of beauty or grace or distinction would get nowhere in a contest like this, probably because of the very qualities that give her beauty or grace or distinction. The standards really do seem to be like dog breeding -- I'm surprised they don't go feel the contestants and measure all of their parts and feel their teeth and all of that.

xpost See Dan the gums thing is like when you look at a dog and you're like "cute puppy!" and then some dog breeder looks at an ugly freakish dog and is all like "wow, look at the height of the withers, isn't that beautiful?"

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

GODDAMN LOOK AT THE WITHERS ON MISS CONNECTICUT!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

If they really want to go the measuring body parts route, I hear Lorenzo Lamas and his laser pointer are free.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Girlflesh and How to Tell It

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a theory that what is considered "beauty" in real-life situations is the contrast of tiny imperfections (a crooked tooth, a mole, etc.) with an otherwise alluring physique, like how a lot of times what makes artwork great isn't what it includes but what it leaves out. Pagaents, however, hide these imperfections for the most part, making it difficult for us to recognize these women as beautiful in a real-world sense, only as "beautiful" in terms of a concept or, as nabisco was saying, a totally different set of standards. However, this may all be bullshit.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The last Miss America pageant was funny to me because I Was watching it with a room full of women (including a former contestant) and they were all complaining because the attractive girls were being scored lower by the judges. The talent competition was possibly one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Nevermind, I'm pretty sure that what I said is NOT bullshit.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, like food perhaps. Some perfectly lovely flavours clash, and others compliment each other. Perhaps beauty is more about arrangement, contrast and compliment than it is about a monolithic concept of beauty.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps. I'm not that sure about anything.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you sure about that?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolutely.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

o come on nabisco - you gonna tell me vanessa williams ain't hot? or that one clinton did? i don't watch beauty paegants but i know whenever a beauty queen does pop up on my radar i do think 'she's hot'.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

First of all, I said "not-necessarily pretty"; second-of-all, the "pretty" in that sentence kind of means "pretty enough to sit around looking at on television." (My guess is that in real life I would look at about 10% of them and think "ooh, she's really gorgeous"; 20% "she's kinda pretty"; 20% "I suppose she's kinda pretty; 20% "I suppose she's theoretically pretty, in a creepy insane insectoid way"; and 30% "ack, you're scaring me.") Out of 50 girls a year there are bound to be plenty of genuinely pretty ones in there. But consider this, my friend: is it not true that the ones among them who are humanly attractive are actually less so during the pageant itself? During the pageant they are shooting for the scary dog-breeding standards; it's only later on, in their realer states, that you realize they were actually quite nice-looking by other standards as well.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Also possibly you have beauty-pageant taste! Eww!!!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

We can test this, just answer the following question:

1. A woman's teeth, individually, should be about as large as her:

a.) pinkie nails
b.) palms
c.) breasts
d.) car

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the first Miss America is kinda cute in homely way I guess:
http://www.missamerica.org/images/history/c21.jpg

Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the first Miss America is kinda cute in a homely way I guess:
http://www.missamerica.org/images/history/c21.jpg

Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm creepy insane insectoid way

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It takes Miss Americas of decades past to get you to surface? I love you sir.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)


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