Librarians and librarians-to-be, please advise me

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I have been reading contradictory advice about the wisdom of getting entering an MLIS program with the aim of getting a job as a librarian.

I want an academic librarian position in California, perhaps as a reference or instructional librarian. I have an MA in English, and I've been teaching for a couple of years at universities. I enjoy helping people find information, and I'm good at using computers. However, I'm burnt-out and tired of the non-tenure track rut. Would getting an MLIS be more of the same humanities gradschool b.s. -- as in despite the graying of the professional ranks and the ALA's rosy outlook, good professional jobs are scarce?

I don't want to work insanely long hours or take my work home, but all I ask of the pay is that I would be able to pay off student debts and live a middle-class life.

I'm not hugely invested in working in an academic setting anymore, but my experience is that academic workers get a lot of time off -- a definite plus in my book! Ner ner...

M. Mess-injure, Saturday, 23 October 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope Youn responds to this thread.

If I attend graduate school again (urgh -- I'm a PhD dropout who's ABD), I have decided to go to UCLA. While San Jose's distance program is attractive, I've heard far too many negative reports about the disorganization of the school and the unpleasantness of key faculty members.

I wonder if it's worth flying back to L.A. (9.5 hour flight) to attend UCLA's informational meeting. I have time off in the beginning of November. The next time I plan to visit L.A. is during Xmas (after the deadline to apply).

I don't know whether I should get my arse in gear and apply before Dec. 15 of this year (which would entail a lot of hustling to get letters of rec. and having to take the GRE in a foreign country since scores older than 6 years are not acceptable) or wait until next year when I'm back in the U.S. I hate to be rushed, but I also like having things well-planned.

M. Mess-injure, Saturday, 23 October 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i have no idea how it is in the states but where i work we have a fantastic masters graduate who runs one of the specials groups on al*a, just spoke at a major lib conference and is stuck in an LA position despite applying for several jobs over the last year.

bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 23 October 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the response, bulbs.

Alas, I have this fantasy of becoming an academic librarian so I can be surrounded by scholarly types and still have time to write perverted little stories like Bataille did.

M. Mess-injure, Sunday, 24 October 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure Ned would know! I'm pretty sure there are some other librarian threads that have talked about the qualifications that are required...Over here in the UK, you definetely needs a masters in Information.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I searched the archive, there are a quite a few library threads there, but not the one I was thinking of. I think Kerry (not the candidate) has posted about this subject in the past, so she may be able to advise too.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure Ned would know!

Oh lord no! I'm but a library assistant and I have no interest in pursuing a library degree, I've done grad school once already. Nicole aka Leon C is who I would defer to in this matter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

See, we are good librarians, passing the enquiry on! heh :)

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
Are you still considering this, MM-i?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

I am a former Librarian. The main reason why I left the profession was that it was nigh impossible to find permanent librarian work in my country. However, I think doing the MLIS (and librarianship generally) was not a false step in my life, as it did help me make the leap from student layabout to gainful employment.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 29 April 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

i am a librarian, i work as the in-house search engine geek on the user experience team at a big software company.

if you want to live a middle-class life (you don't say where) i don't recommend academic librarianship. you go through the same tenure process as faculty, are subject to the same publish/perish rules, the organizations tend to range from extremely rigid to downright dysfunctional. in fact, in many institutions there is a movement afoot to deny academic librarians tenure due to their lack of original research production.

public libfrarianship is about the same, although some metropolitan areas actually pay a decent salary. you wouldn't be able to buy a house in LA.

a lot of what you want of out school should dictate where you go. are you trying to retool, get new skills, explore new areas? try a 2-year program. if you just need your degree, and some new skill areas, go to a one-year school.

if you do go to school, learn to write while you're in there if you don't already know how. and form co-mentoring groups and study together and read each other's writing and counsel each other into better jobs. find a faculty member who you get on with, and take their classes. most jobs come from the social network, so form a good one in grad school.

anyway, i love being a librarian the way i do it, it pays well. i don't haunt this site, a friend pointed me here because she knew i'd rant on like i have. i hope someone can glean a bit of truth to help them down their paths. happy weekend!

lynn mlis, Saturday, 30 April 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)


Actually, academic librarianship varies from institution to institution. I agree that tenure for librarians is a bad idea, since it can be used as a weapon in a bad institution. But you can certainly make a decent living as an academic librarian, unless your idea of 'middle-class' is something closer to six figures.

tiffr10013 (dymaxia), Saturday, 30 April 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

i kinda regret it but i am a fuck up with no ambition and no interest in political games

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 30 April 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)


It's just a matter of finding the right institution, really.

tiffr goer (dymaxia), Saturday, 30 April 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

If you want to be a reference librarian in a public library it helps to really really loooooove people, which I apparently do not. I think the future of reference work in public libraries is pretty shakey, by which I mean that, at the very least, there is not likely to be a need for as many reference librarians in the coming years. The fact is: the volume of reference questions has gone way down, whatever the official statistics show, at least in the public library system where I work.

If you get an MLS, you need to take the responsibility to research possible career paths and not think of it (as I did) as simply the necessary piece of paper to allow you to join the guild and get a job.

It's not a very in-demand sort of degree or skill set. I would recommend finding some other career path. Although there are people like lynn, above, who are able to shape some sort of interesting career path for themselves with the degree (or maybe she just stumbled into it--but I'm guessing she didn't based on the practical advice she gives about networking and so forth).

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 30 April 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I am almost finished with a BS in Anthropology and I think I want to get an MLS. what are some schools with good programs? Is there such a thing as a research librarian?

Viceroy, Friday, 27 February 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

A question to the Librarians of ILX:

Are their any competitors to Knovel for online technical reference collections?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)


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