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briania (briania), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago)

cmon becky vaughn!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Yay Barbara Boxer again out here. Frankly, just bring on the Obama coronation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Like, for instance, the weirdly bi-polar nature of Iowa's senate seats, held down by apparently un-budging imcumbents Tom Harkin (liberal Democrat) and Chuck Grassley (conservative Republican).

The situation is especially unfortunate this year, because Grassley's quixotic opponent is this guy, Art Small:

http://www.artsmallforsenate.com/images/stories/whoisartsmall_portrait_colo.jpg

Art believes that there is such a thing as "society", and that government can and in some circumstances should play an affirmative role in creating opportunities for the less privileged in the legitimate pursuit of social justice. In personal style, anti-slick is his chic (he thinks Good Will shops offer excellent sartorial value). In substance, he is thoughtful, articulate, funny, interesting.

Plus, dig that Trotskyite beard!

briania (briania), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago)

The Senate may be most important, but I'm really rooting for Richard Morrison and Jerry McNerney in the House to end the reign of Tom Delay and send back to the ranch the abomination that is Richard Pombo

xp: there's much worse in Congress than Grassley

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago)

It's sorta weird and fun to think that Hilary is up for reelection again in two years time. Should she win and carry through on that, she'll have served in a national office four years longer than Bill.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago)

xp: To be sure, Grassley has bucked the party line much more than his liberal counterpart Harkin.

briania (briania), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago)

C'mon Tony Knowles and Erskin Bowles and Jim Bob Dowles and Hank Snowles.

Or at least the first two.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago)

As is often the case in Oregon the ballot measures are the most compelling, once the presidential race is set aside.

One measure in particular is worrisome; it would compel the state to compensate property owners for any regulation that decreases the value of their property. It sounds all very nice and fair until you examine it for, oh, about ten seconds. For example, suppose the Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) ruled that used motor oil could not be dumped into unlined pits dug into the ground, then the state of Oregon might have to pay everyone for taking away that 'property right'.

I'm a-feared this monstrosity of a bone-headed law will pass.

Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Whew, how could it not? "Compensation from the State? I'm for that!"

briania (briania), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I wish I had registered absentee in Illinois, just to be a part of the historically hilarious Obama/Keyes race. But no, here in NY it's just Schumer and Rangel coasting comfortably back.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Here's to Dr. Dan Mongiardo taking out Jim "November 11th", "I don't watch the tv news, and I don't read the newspapers" Bunning.

Here's to BEING ABLE TO WATCH AN HOUR OF CRAPPY TELEVISION WITHOUT SOME DOUCHEBAG TELLING US THEY APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE once again.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Here's to never hearing "Conn!e Bash@m owns 57 million dollars in property and wants to eliminate property taxes? What the fuck is she thinking? " again.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Will the Republican get 51% in tonight's senate race, or can Louisiana look foreward to more campaign nuttiness through December?

And Oklahoma! Do Will Rogers proud!

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Supposedly Daschle is losing? Or at least one rumor goes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago)

i'm thinking there isn't a lot of exit polling on the Pine Ridge

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago)

"I'm really rooting for Richard Morrison...in the House to end the reign of Tom Delay"

I'm soooooo with you on that one, but sadly it ain't gonna happen. DeLay has been carpetbombing the airwaves in my area with negative/positive (i.e.Morrison=Satan/DeLay=Saint) ads for the past few weeks. The funny thing is, some of Delay's ads reference negative ads from Morrison. I have yet to see or hear a single negative ad from Morrison, aside for some general yard signs from the Democratic Party with slogans like "Dump DeLay!" and "Advancing America Without DELAY!"

BTW, perhaps one of my happiest recent memories was discovering that--due to redistricting or something--DeLay isn't my congressman. Go Al Green!

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:43 (twenty years ago)

it's looking like Dems get a Senate pickup in Kentucky

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago)

I had to vote for whether I bought a McCain or White Wings frozen dinner. I chose McCain because the White Wings box is blue, implying a lean toward conservative values.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago)


I heard from a Dem on another board that Phil Crane is losing. I don't know if you know who he is, but he's awful.

k3rry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago)


Jeez, Keyes still hasn't conceded.

k3rry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago)

joe hoeffel is only 1% behind arlen spector ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago)

spoke too soon ... they're calling it for spector now

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, out in California -- only 18% precincts reporting, but Boxer in a walkover so far for Senate reelection, leading a comfortable 15% over Jones. Not surprising, and now it's her third term, good job!

In my neck of the woods, the usual Republican candidates won for the Congress (Rohrbacher) and both State Senate and Assembly. Ah well, no surprise.

The propositions are an interesting bunch. Right now Prop 66, a long needed revision of the 'three strikes' law, is winning but not yet decisively. 1A, the local government revenue proposition, is storming to a victory -- another feather for Arnold's cap. 63 (soak the rich for mental health care -- really!) is winning but not yet clearly, while somewhat to my surprise 71, the stem cell funding bond, is decisively winning. That I really don't get.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:07 (twenty years ago)

A hammering in the congressionals for the dems. Obama and Salazar the only point of hope.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:42 (twenty years ago)

Hm, 45% precincts in and 66 is only barely winning. Bah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:17 (twenty years ago)

I almost voted republican for freeholders in Middlesex County New Jersey, just to stick it to machine politics. I ended up going D down the line though.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:18 (twenty years ago)

fuckin utah is full of a bunch of sub-human bigots, but you all knew that.

anti-gay-marriage-and-civil-unions passes by like 70%.

FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT, PATHETIC EXCUSES OF THE MAMMALIAN KINGDOM... PLEASE GO BACK TO THE PRE-HISTORIC WATERS OF PANGEA WHERE YOU CAME FROM

mattp, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago)

hey, chill out!

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:39 (twenty years ago)

I hate to say it, but I sort of feel like the gay union issue hurt the democrats a lot, and I wonder if it would have been better to hold off on it with so much else at stake.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:39 (twenty years ago)

gay marriage is as currently crucial as it gets -- to leave it off would be a betrayal of hundreds of millions of supporters.

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:40 (twenty years ago)


Well, here in the Isle of Sanity, we threw out another Republican congressman - Crane is gone.

k3rry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 12:19 (twenty years ago)

the young, semi-qualified, family-name republican won the governor's race here in missouri over an incredibly well-qualified democrat running on a fiscal responsibility platform. Unless it's just blatant sexism or pro-life whatnot, I just don't know what to think.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago)

coattails

briania (briania), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago)


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