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i mean i really fucking hate it.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

so leave.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i plan to.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

when is new york going to secede from the rest of the nation? everyone else already hates us snooty educated pinkos. can europe please adopt us?

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

omg chris matthews just called the gay marriage issue "avant garde"

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

he said it was too avant garde for the black community. sigh.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"when is new york going to secede from the rest of the nation? everyone else already hates us snooty educated pinkos. can europe please adopt us?"

Two words: Rudy Giuliani.

Don't kid yourself that New York is immune from all this shit.

― Lefty, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

When my country gets a crap government, we can move to another country. When the US gets a crap government, the only way to escape it is by moving to another solar system.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

so leave.

and YOU don't come back to NYC.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah and most of us hated rudy when he was in office. some of us still don't trust him. (xpost)

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this myth of New York as "educated.' This is probably not the best time, but briefly: I grew up in Manhattan, and recently relocated to the South, where the people are supposed to be backward and dumb.

Well, no one here has quoted Chaucer to me, but I've met 14 year olds who can take apart an engine and rebuild it in the time it takes 'educated New Yorkers" to cut a Mumia stencil. The people I've met here have real life skills, the kind that 'educated' people like you need when your car battery dies in the middle of the night. When was the last time somebody called you specifically at 4am with an emergency that only you could fix?

I say go.

adn I'll NEVER move back to NYC. That's my promise to you, buddy. Siberia first.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I blame the media, I really do. Most average joes believe the media, and the media happily fed them a bunch of shit. People think "oh hes nice trustworthy George and lets not change anythign and he's a God man" and thats it. No further thinking.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what Tony Blair is thinking right now. Hmm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Careful, Trayce, you almost sound like a conservative. Next thing you'll be protesting the income tax.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

People think "oh hes nice trustworthy George and lets not change anythign and he's a God man" and thats it.

That's odd, because I see its face and think 'what a fucking smug arsehole.'

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what Tony Blair is thinking right now. Hmm.

'Gosh! I've run out of lube'

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Still, the majority of voters in NYC apparently favored Giuliani. You and I don't like it one bit, but that's the sad fact.

All I'm saying is that your vision of NYC as insulated/removed from the sickening farce going on tonight is simply incorrect.

― Lefty, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

(Actually I'm very glad I took some time off and had some sleep, lots of knotted tension earlier. At this point, now I'm interested in how these next couple of months go in the run-up to the scheduled Iraqi elections. The attack on Falluja is imminent and while I presume that the forces being built up by the US and company will be enough, I wonder what, exactly, happens next.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree... republicans are good at fixing things. like elections!

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

while i agree that there are different means of intelligence and that mechanical knowledge is very impressive, don't assume that vocational smarts = enlightenment, roger. i grew up in the south -- where my stepfather is a mechanic; i grew up working in a garage -- and while i miss it (and some of the people there), it was far and away the most unhappy period of my life, primarily thanks to dumbass jocks who resisted anything even remotely contrary to the status quo. the south has a leisurely pace that i miss, but it also means it's so fucking slow to change that it can verge on the criminal.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(multiple x-post)

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

How is blaming the media and being against taxes a conservative thing? I really do not understand US party policy.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ps... i'm a northerner and i can fix PLENTY of things. we're not all helpless.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(Yeah, this would be a good time to get the hell out of Falluja if you hapen to be hanging out there. Not that there wasn't going to be a move either way but this totally green lights it.)

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't assume that tony pretension = enlightenment either.

The rah-rah flag-waving and "America the Beautiful" slopfest all over NYC post-9/11 was a sickening sight to behold.

― Lefty, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(Well, it was greenlighted anyway, troops have been moving into place for weeks now. The presumption is that this is enough to smash 'the resistance' or whatever they're calling it, for good. I'm hardly so sanguine.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and also maybe the northeast could still be a center of industry if reagan hadn't fucked them over so badly! rust belt RIP

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The rah-rah flag-waving and "America the Beautiful" slopfest all over NYC post-9/11 was a sickening sight to behold.

tourists.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The people I've met here have real life skills, the kind that 'educated' people like you need when your car battery dies in the middle of the nigh

This kind of sums up Roger's entire history from what I've seen. Whine all you want about Mumia lib'ruls, but you're the most pathetic cliché in the book. Every stereotype of a young, angry, ignorant and scared straight white male in the book.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

closet-case too

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i changed a bike tire the other day!

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

As an Australian can I just say everyone on both sides is looking like a right DORK at the moment? Jesus everyone take a chill pill, you won't be dead in the morning.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that last 'in the book' should be 'rolled into one'

People like Roger are maybe the last group that can get me angry. I can laugh at most racists, fundies are just nuts - but the anti-intellectual and wholly irrational crowd piss me off. Grow the fuck up. If you're intimidated by everyone's book-learnin' crawl back in your cave.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

While I can express abstract admiration for the structure and mores of your solipsistic world, results not typical, you really are living in denial. I've lived in NYC and it's hardly a Mecca of well-educated pinkos. Perhaps you need to get out of SoHo more often and you may just then become a wee bit less myopic.

― Lefty, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(Shifting subjects, it's very quiet around here in my neck of OC, from what I can hear. No venting from any of the apartments nearby or the like, but no sounds of celebration either. Not that I necessarily would have expected it, but still, it's all calm, reflective even. Very glad I wasn't following any of the TV coverage, y'know? The sun will in fact rise tomorrow and life will continue. I'm strongly disappointed, of course, my vent post earlier says as much. But like I said in it, if tonight was not the night, well, a pity indeed. The joke is on all of us now, and indeed it's a killing one. But I am patient yet.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I fucking hate it when people express criticism/frustrating for the current state of affairs and some asshole tells them to "love America or leave it." Because if you have a problem with the system, the answer is to shuttayomouth and get the fuck out.

RAH RAH RAH

Conservatives don't have a monopoly on patriotism, as much as they'd like to think so. I identify strongly with the initial post, and it's *because* I love my country that I'm as angry as I am, that I hate what it is doing right now so deeply.

― Laura E (laurae55), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The sun will in fact rise tomorrow and life will continue.

With Bush in power, not even that much is certain.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

still, it physically sickens me that bush has gotten the # of votes that he has.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is the Zen master.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Milo and Laura OTM. Grow the fuck up and quit trying to turn every facet of life into some machismo contest.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

If he wanted to blow shit up I fear he already would have, I do think everyone is being a wee bit silly now. Except ned.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

If he wanted to blow shit up I fear he already would have

Your point being?

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/naturalresources/images/3474-47.jpg

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom's idea that New York should join the EU makes more and more sense.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

take new england with you

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned is the Zen master.

Heh, well, not that far. Maybe all I'm saying is just a variant on one of my favorite things Linus ever said in Peanuts:

"I love humanity. It's PEOPLE I can't stand!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't say love it or leave it. Hate it all you want, I don't care. By all means, disagree, question, hate. But don't talk about leaving it if you're not GOING to, is all. I thought that was pretty clear.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean i really fucking hate it.
-- results not typical (theundergroundhom...) (webmail), November 3rd, 2004 12:21 AM. (Jody Beth Rosen) (later) (link)

so leave.
-- Roger Fidelity (blindjimdeat...) (webmail), November 3rd, 2004 12:23 AM. (Roger Fidelity) (later) (link)

― Laura E (laurae55), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Eat a dick, Roger.

New England can come, definitely. Maybe the Left Coast too.

Jesus. Can the country be more divided? It's like Rove has carved out exactly 51%.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

These threads are all really silly :(

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 167 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.
fox?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

One person is enough.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No matter what the results of tonights election are, you can still listen to the Chameleons in the morning

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

IF THERE IS A MORNING.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

No matter what the results of tonights election are, you can still listen to the Chameleons in the morning
but some soldiers and a few dozen Iraqis won't be able to. Therein the problem with your 'view'

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

''view''

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston, MA – Kerry-Edwards campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill released the following statement:

“The vote count in Ohio has not been completed. There are more than 250,000 remaining votes to be counted. We believe when they are, John Kerry will win Ohio.”

― papa november (papa november), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not really his belief, so I don't know what to call it. His hypothesis, I suppose.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh, gotcha.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

bush is ahead in all but one of the counties still to call (in ohio)

― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again a close race -- Bush will barely even have a mandate if he wins, and yet conservatives will act like it was only a bunch of liberal wackos who supported Kerry.

well, they could show that map that shows, that off the coasts, nearly all the states are republican? thats quite a powerful image. it also means that people do that condescending "hicks in the flyover states" schtick, which doesnt help the deomcrat cause any?

― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

How many Iraqi would Saddam have killed in the same time? And how many other leaders would ignore the UN resulting in dead people.

There numbers may not be at equallibrium yet, but In the future it may be.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

How many Iraqi would Saddam have killed in the same time?

Why is that Bush's business?

And how many people has Kim Jong-Il killed in that time?

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

GENOCIDE IN AFRICA WHAT ABOUT THAT HUH

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

You people cannot tell me you would be happy with Bush proceeding to follow down a list of places where deaths could be prevented and do something about it.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

He doesn't. He finds oil and steals the countries, and makes up excuses.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

at least he could support the U.N. in trying to alleviate these situations, no?

x-post

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

And ignores 90% of the countries that equally require intervention.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Because they don't have oil.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds like an excuse being made up to disagree with Bush.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You people cannot tell me you would be happy with Bush proceeding to follow down a list of places where deaths could be prevented and do something about it

well, im not a "you people", more of a person really, and i cant speak for anyone else. but, yes, i would be less than happy with that scenario. i would prefer if bush didnt draw up any lists, didnt go anywhere, and didnt start any unilateral laws, and didnt act unilaterally as a selfappointed global policeman.

in fact, if he avoided all these things, not only would i find that good, i would also find it 'interesting'

― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, unilateral wars, i mean, not laws!

― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds like an excuse being made up to disagree with Bush.

I beg your fucking pardon?

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again a close race -- Bush will barely even have a mandate if he wins, and yet conservatives will act like it was only a bunch of liberal wackos who supported Kerry.

I dunno, Bush won the popular vote by something between 3 and 4 million ... in this day and age that's not really that close.

― charles, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

claiming his motives are mostly oil and stealing it.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree, the outcome is clear, but, there is a difference between neck and neck, and 'only liberal wackos'. unless we are to characterize 48% of the country as liberal wackos. which, you may want to do, but i would argue that, in that case, the word 'only' shuold probably be jettisoned

― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

kiss roe vs wade goodbye

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

claiming his motives are mostly oil and stealing it.

You'd know that's the case if you'd paid attention at any time in the past three years.

Or, you're just trolling. Considering how utterly stupid your assertion is, I can only assume the latter.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm definitely not pro-bush, but likewise I am not anti-Bush. I've just been disappointed in how many people I've seen being such blindly anti-Bush. There are many good reasons to not like him, but using weak ones and fake ones ruins the whole point of taking that position. I'm betting many people who voted for Bush this time around were probably just reacting to seeing many 'intelligent' people blindly hating Bush and giving him zero poitive evaluation. Which everyone knows is impossible that someone could be that bad, so therefore the people preaching that most be flawed somewhere.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

There are many good reasons to not like him, but using weak ones and fake ones ruins the whole point of taking that position.

Good job we're not doing that then.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

go to bed TROLL xpost

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

claiming his motives are for greedily taking oil and there was no consideration of any good benefits that could result, I think is weak.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

True. Not weak. True.

Stop trolling.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the good benefits:

oil

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

and the more those people are adamantly following that, makes Bush supports react even more. That was mostly what lost the election.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't possibly be that thick, so troll.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

what lost the election was votes

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it a good benefit to get a mass murderer out of Office? yes

maybe in the future, the people that think so much about things could consider thinking about other things as well.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

don't feel so bad, maybe Kerry will win in the morning (or next week) but if not maybe Obama next time, or maybe Bush will see how close the election was and change some of his approach to speak to the half that didn't vote for him.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

But Bush can't do three terms.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

fat chance.. bush willfully ignored the other half the last term. i doubt he'll be different this time.

― twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe Bush will see how close the election was and change some of his approach to speak to the half that didn't vote for him.

are you fucking kidding me?

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

GEORGE W. bush can't do three terms. As for other bushes...

― twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

NO MORE BUSH.

Even the band is a bit substandard for mine.

― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

*The Supreme Court is now officially fucked for the next 30+ years.

*Womens rights, reproductive and otherwise, and minority rights will be set back 50 years.

*No embryonic stem cell research for at least the next 4 years, probably more ... so much for cures for diabetes, parkinsons, alzheimers, etc.

*Separation of church & state likely weakened further ... a nice little gift for the evangelicals that handed Bush this election.

*Alaska wildlife refuge to be opened for oil drilling...

*At least 4 more years' ignorance of global warming and other environmental calamities in the making...

*And, of course, the rape of other countries for their oil and other actions that benefit the big corporations that helped Bush get elected, at the expense of the lives of our soldiers, will continue unabated ...

And, best of all, the whole world knows that we blew our best chance to fucking take this country back and change things for the better. So now, when terrorists hit us with another 9/11-style attack (which is almost certainly coming, and Bush ain't gonna protect us), show me one country that is going to feel sorry for us. They will all laugh at our downfall, knowing that we brought it on ourselves, and I don't blame them anymore. This country has been hijacked by fucktards.

― charles, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"And, best of all, the whole world knows that we blew our best chance to fucking take this country back and change things for the better."

Yes.

In the UK I'm listening to the Today (news/commentary) programme on BBC Radio 4, and the tone of the presenter (James Naughtie) is a mix of weary incredulity and (it seems to me) real sadness.

― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Nevada just closed

― papa november (papa november), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Berube earlier tonight:

Bunning. DeMint. Coburn. Martinez. Burr.

Every one of them batshit insane. Every one of them a United States Senator, as of 10:40 Eastern tonight.

No, folks, I’m not despairing. The country is, and will always be, worth fighting for. I’m not saying 'everything sucks, so why bother' (as Mike suggested in a comment to the previous post). But we here in the reality-based community are constrained by empirical results, and we know now that we will have to deal with a Senate chock full of lunatics who spend 30 percent of their waking hours trying to figure out how to bring Christ to earth and the other 70 percent fantasizing about (and then, with a fervor commensurate with the intensity of the fantasy, decrying) man-on-dog sex. Well, except for Bunning, who spends 40 percent of his waking hours trying to figure out what day it is.

It is still unclear what the executive branch will look like. But I don’t see any landslide coming. . . .

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

(That last part was s'posed to be ital, too.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)


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