It's Nov. 3rd now, and we have no president: the second official election day thread

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I heart America.

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:43 (twenty years ago)

how frequently do you prematurely ejaculate?

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago)

it's bush and also at 7:49am it's bedtime

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago)

Still Nov. 2 right here for 10 more minutes.

From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:47 (twenty years ago)

-- Remy (jcoomb...) (webmail), November 2nd, 2004 11:45 PM (cus I'm a time-zone imperialist)

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:47 (twenty years ago)

-- Remy (jcoomb...) (webmail), November 2nd, 2004 11:45 PM (cus I'm a time-zone imperialist)

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:47 (twenty years ago)

i've been watching cnn, so fuck off

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Been 3rd November here for nearly 19 hours.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:48 (twenty years ago)

ken blackwell hasn't called ohio for bush, so unless wisconsin flips, it ain't over

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:49 (twenty years ago)

shmool, it's not nov 3rd where you're at right now.. you still got six minutes to go (unless you're east of van)

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:50 (twenty years ago)

i know

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:02 (twenty years ago)

but now it is

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:03 (twenty years ago)

cbs: "the white house is unhappy"

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:03 (twenty years ago)

iowa is about to close by the looks

papa november (papa november), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Haha you beat me to it

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:18 (twenty years ago)

way i figure it, we got about two years 'til the draft is reinstated

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago)

in which case, fear or not, goodbye Republic Candidate '08

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:27 (twenty years ago)

er, Republican

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:27 (twenty years ago)

and i'm entirely serious. if rumsfeld stays, and/or we get another bellicose neocon SecDef, expect us to have another nice little military excursion in the next two years. we already have a "stop-loss" policy to retain troop levels, and when that doesn't work anymore, well... let's just say that it won't happen before the midterm elections, but sure as shit in early 2007 or so.

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm not disagreeing with you.. though the moment the draft gets announced, expect riots. (granted, this is not an impossibility even if, by some weird chance, Kerry pulls off Ohio after all the court cases and wins)

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:37 (twenty years ago)

oh, i think it'd entirely possible with kerry in place. i just think that a kerry admin would be slightly more reticent to increase the number of ongoing conflicts.

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:39 (twenty years ago)

well, if the draft happens, don't be surprised if the entire country decides to become homosexual.

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Kerry's now down by 144,000 in Ohio. 99% reporting. It doesn't look good.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:41 (twenty years ago)

It's all one war.

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War on Tara, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:42 (twenty years ago)

it seems like kerry has a better chance winning all those other states than winning ohio now

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Not New Mexico. I still don't know why that hasn't been called. CSPAN has Bush winning NM 52 to 47% with 103% of the precincts reporting. I don't know what that means.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:44 (twenty years ago)

man them lawsuits is gunna be FUN

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:45 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, there's still at least 300,000 absentee votes left for Ohio.. half of that is still over 140,000....

i admit i'm clutching the final fibers of the straw here... but still.

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:46 (twenty years ago)

and yeah, lawsuits ahoy... :/

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but who gets the other half? That's right.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure the absentee ballots haven't already been counted, twiki's? How many provisional ballots are there?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago)

and the governor of new mexico said that there were a ton of native american votes that hadnt been counted... which are projected to be vastly in favor of kerry... but its a slim chance.

x-posts

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago)

I thought just today's votes were still being counted in OH, but I could be wrong...

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, Kerry just got a LOT closer in New Mexico. OK. He's behind by 1,003 votes.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:49 (twenty years ago)

This has without a doubt been the most heart wrenching election ever in my lifetime.. for anything.. period.

twiki's ho and dr. theo slapping ass, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago)

With all the focus on Ohio, I'm really curious what they're going to do in New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Iowa. At this point, Kerry has to pick up either Ohio and Wisconsin, or Ohio, New Mexico, and Iowa. Will as much attention be paid to these other states?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago)

btw, who are you, twiki's?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago)

nevada just went to bush according to cnn

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Will as much attention be paid to these other states?

I forgot to mention that at this point, these other states are all actually CLOSER than Ohio.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Todd, the CSPAN map has had Nevada for Bush for at least an hour now.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:55 (twenty years ago)

i wonder how nader voters will feel tomorrow

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:56 (twenty years ago)

I forgot to mention that at this point, these other states are all actually CLOSER than Ohio.


It doesn't matter - if Bush wins Ohio he wins the whole thing.

charles, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:56 (twenty years ago)

well, then kerry really only needs one state plus ohio... something that will not happen i am afraid

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 08:58 (twenty years ago)

And that one state can't be NM, it has to be IA or WI (of course, he can win more than one of those three as well).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't matter - if Bush wins Ohio he wins the whole thing.

I know, but I'm assuming that Ohio will be contested. The problem is if everyone focuses on Ohio's absentee and provisional ballots, Kerry still needs to pick up one other state. Will the Republicans complain that Wisconsin, for example (which is leaning Kerry right now), was ultimately "too close to call" and demand a recount?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, if he wins new mexico, we will be back at that tie situation.

my bad.

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago)

If Dems try to recount Ohio (((as they SHOULD, after a) the fucked up ruling 20-some hours ago from a 2 to 1 court decision favoring the GOP initiative to keep "challengers" at many Afr-American voting precints, b) the bizarro 10-hour voting issue with some people STILL not getting to vote until the morning of the 3rd, and c) the # of provisional ballots, which the sec of state - who is a Repub - said in his press conference could # anywhere from "175,000 to 250, 000))) ...then who knows ? Wisconsin will probably be recounted as well, by the Reps - despite how Kerry is in the lead there.

If I heard CNN correctly a few minutes ago New Mexico has a Dem gov and senator who said they won't announce any victor until tommorrow.

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Okay - 4:27 AM now for you East Coasters...anyone else watching this BU$H "VICTORY" SPEECH? I FEEL SO ALONELY.... :(

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Judy Woodruff looks like she's slept though

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna watch it.

From a Land of CNN Without Sleep (AaronHz), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 09:26 (twenty years ago)

To cheer myself up, I'd like to repost clean Bush.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm caving in and finally hitting the sack.... I can't take any more; feel totally drained.

Later ya'll - it hasn't been fun, and I'd never like to do this again. Thanks.

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago)

When someone steals an election, everyone loses. And let's face it, the Rove-ian machine has been gutting our rights right through the election process, using any means necessary to deliver GOP victories.

Gabbneb is right, Wall Street would (or will be) have been fine with Kerry as a winner, because there is no way he was (or is) going to raise taxes for the next two years with the increased strength of the Republican Congress.

don carville weiner, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago)

two of the most terrifying sentences making the rounds on television today:

"opened up for drilling"

"conservative judges"

m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Cons: Bush re-elected
Pros: Evening Standard gets an excuse to put that Bush phone photo on the front page.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago)

The best sentence not making the rounds on television today:

"Thank god we won't have Terry MacAuliffe to kick around anymore."

don carville weiner, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Stop the world. I want to get off.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago)

No, Don, that would be "conservative judges opened up for drilling."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, is there a final count (more or less) on what percentage of registered voters didn't vote?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago)

the weirdest thing about that C-Span map is looking at the vote tallies in Washington DC. Yikes!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago)

The 18-30 year olds have a lot to look forward to:

Overturn of Roe
Draft in some form or another other
No real health plan, but perhaps the ones that get drafted will get some medical benes
Increase in environmental crises, increased loss of species
Foreign debt currency crisis
False claims of impending bankruptcy of Social Security resulting in its diminishment or recission
State religion formalized
Ever-widening wealth gap
Patriot Act all up their sphincters
The general hostility of the community of the world

Oh yeaaah. Jesus arrives. YAY!

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago)

i have to say i am in complete shock. i just can't believe that turnout stayed basically the same as 2000. why the long lines? this is unsettling, in more ways than one. i'm no conspiracy theorist so i hesitate to believe that the election was somehow fixed but i have to say i am curious. is it possible that the paradigm has shifted that extra percentage? that we are no longer a 50-50 nation but now at 51-49 with the religious right in the majority?

Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago)

"I think I'm the only one from the US who STILL hasn't been to sleep - it's 4:55 AM PST here on the West Coast, and I don't really have to get up until late morning."

Don't worry. I have been up since Sunday. And it's 9:26 am and i just bought a magnum of wine. Because I am very upset and angry, and the wine tempers my desire to go out and do a Squeaky Fromme.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Bush phone photo

Has someone photoshopped him onto Gareth's body? Oh do say yes!!

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago)

I hope this is not too self indulgent, but i'm goint to share an email that i wrote this morning, just because i can't say it again.

I am not....for instance, going to kill myself. Nor am I going to act on any homicidal impulses towards the idiot in chief. However, the latter is not far from my mind. I have slept maybe three hours in two days. All election all the time.
Not that it's over, but it's over. Bush stole the election four years ago, but this time the people have spoken. I guess the rest of the country really wants a fundamentalist wing nut to continue his personal holy war.
I am going to get so drunk today. I wish i could go to the Comet.
100,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed - and we can't see the coffins of the 1'200 dead Americans who come home to be buried.
Wait a second - wasn't this war over, like, last year? Mission accomplished?
No, the mission was not accomplished. FUCK the mission.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.
There was, in my heart, a brief feeling of hope - that we, America, could remove the idiot from office and try to regain some credibility in the world.
I think the whole world should be able to vote in a referendum - just so Americans see how much the rest of the world relies on us.
Life goes on. Everyone is going to wake up and go to work - IF they have a job - and try to do the right thing.
But everyone knows there is a wrong thing at work. A president who cares nothing for his basic constituents. A president who wants to polarize poor people against rich people. A president who is determined to ruin what natural environment we have left. A president who thinks God has given him the right to unilaterally invade countries. A president who thinks Christianity can replace every New Deal policy that FDR created.
A president who states, publicly, that he might not be so bright, but God has anointed him to run a country that USED to be a democracy.
I'm too broke to run away. I guess I'm going to have to fight.
This is, possibly, the worst day of my life. At least when i was raped it was just me - not the whole country and the rest of the world. That sucked, but this sucks more.
I feel like knocking on doors and confronting people and I feel like kicking random objects and i feel like screaming.
"People have the power.." yeah, whatever.
I have been scared, for three years, to even state my opinions because i don't want to offend anyone, and, y'know, you never know who's listening. This administration has made it possible for library book choices to fall under government scrutiny. I'm sure Katie has an opinion about this - and i would love to hear it. Librarians are the new radicals - they proudly display banned books and encourage people to read them. Y'know, like "Catcher In The Rye", "Beloved", Invisible Man" etc.
Subversive literature!
I am so upset and angry and miserable right now. If I were with you and, say,Jessie, you would encourage me to take a walk, do something nice for myself, take care of myself...and I would do exactly what i am going to do.
Which is anticipate the moment when i can purchase some booze. That's not neccesarily my instinct these days, but it is today. So call me. I am very upset and angry love, Alison PS say hi to Bill

aimurchie, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm so sorry kp but i hope you can take some heart in knowing your feelings are shared by a huge amount of people there, here and all over.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

The world needs people who care, Alison. Your sense and passion do you credit and I hope they'll be rewarded, one day if not today.

(Ha, I sound kind of pompous - that's what politics does to some people I guess.)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago)

the world needs people who send justifiably outraged emails

amateur!!st, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/runmdc/election.jpg

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Don't toy w/me

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago)

That's not even funny, in that I actually GENUINELY wish it were true...

ha xpost

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago)

How is Cuyahoga Co. looking in the results?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I said it on the old thread but it does seem thatthe state formed at the peak of the age of enlightenment as an experimental republic is now dead. Worst case sccenario a christian fundamentalist version of Putin's nationalist russia. Bush will get to pick one, maybe two supreme court justices, if the dems don't regroup quickly then the republicans can move closer to constitution altering majorities in congress.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Just woken up. What the fuck is that cunt still doing there?

Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm starting to think the term "reality-based community" is soon going to seem bitterly ironic

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

How is Cuyahoga Co. looking in the results?

Kerry 67-33 Bush.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

That's not even funny, in that I actually GENUINELY wish it were true...

i thought that poster was suggesting that Optimus Prime is just a warmongering hypocrite just like Bush (which is true)

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't recall Optimus ever reached out to Megatron for peace talks.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago)

but how does the Yielder of the Creation Matrix feel about gay marriage?

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago)

For God's sake Ken Megatron was a giant gun! Some people can't be reasoned w/, much as you liberal types like to deny it

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago)

constitution altering majorities in congress

I should note that after that it has to go to the states. Now that might not be cause for celebration either.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Heh, "toy". Optimus is said to have a personality not too dissimilair to Abe Lincoln.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd feel better about this if the US just decided to partition itself - the Loosely Associated Coastal Democracies Of America and The Free Christian Republic Of The Central States. Not like there's much of a mandate for this, even - it's 60-40 at most either way in each half and the urbanites in the TFCROTCC (some work to be done on acronyms, sorry) and the churchgoing small-towners in the LACDOA would feel persecuted. Plus Mandee would have to move.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

If yr calling Optimus a fag etc

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I just heard this on the radio, it seemed curiously apposite:

I feel like I'm pounding on a big door
No one can hear me knocking
I feel like I'm falling flat to the floor
No one can catch me from falling
The hourglass has no more grains of sand
My watch has stopped no more turning hands
The crew have abandoned ship
The lights are on but no one is in
Take it to the bridge
Throw it overboard
See if it can swim
Back up to the shore
No one's in the house
Everyone is out
All the lights are on
And the blinds are down

I feel like I'm calling on a telephone
No one can hear the ringing
I feel like I'm running up a steep hill
No one can stop me from running
The hourglass has no more grains of sand
My watch has stopped no more turning hands
The little hand shakes its fist
The face is hanging out on a spring

The hourglass has no more grains of sand
Little red grains of sand
My watch has stopped no more turning hands
Little green neon hands

rwillmsen (rwillmsen), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago)

"Just woken up. What the fuck is that cunt still doing there?"

This is the only thing that has made me smile today. Thanks, everyone, for letting me rant. It's nice to know I can share.
I was hoping we could talk about something else for the next four years, but at least we have fodder for our threads. That's my only hopeful thought today. The wine and cigaretttes are calling...

aimurchie, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Optimus has promised to quash the new line of Deceptacons released for this Christmas, including Whitewash, Evengelor, Panopticon and the tenacious Super Team Neocrones who together form Ohioplex

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Optimus didn't have a problem with BumbleBee to be fair.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

re: homosexuals

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Sky Warp. gay as a bicycle.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Kerry condeded!!!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

According to CNN ... he called Bush seven minutes ago ... and will give a speech at 1PM EST.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

FUUUUUUCCCKKKK

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Well that was pretty fucking stupid - unless by conceded you mean "killed Bush".

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Tell me you're kidding.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Dread + a bit of relief it won't be determined by "the courts".

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago)

At least I can take a bit of solace in my pre-election prediction ... 30 min before noon, and this thread plus the previous one have 1747 posts, I predicted 1693. But there have been a lot of spinoffs this morning, I think my opponents may call in their lawyers ...

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago)

For posterity -- the new Answers page at 11:38 AM EST Nov 3 ... 18/26 election threads at the top ...

# The picture of Bush with the story about Kerry's concession is infuriating (6 new answers, 6+ unread)
# What Video Games Are You Wasting Your Life Away on Now? (Vol 2.) (30 new answers, 30 unread)
# It Looks like it's going to be FOUR MORE YEARS OF Bush: What's in store? (12 new answers, 8 unread)
# Yeah, Okay, But Remember This: That Second Term Can Be A Doozy! (17 new answers, 17+ unread)
# Will any (attractive) women outside the US marry me into permenant residency? (6 new answers, 6+ unread)
# Post-election down-ness (i don't wanna call it depression) (68 new answers, 68+ unread)
# It's Nov. 3rd now, and we have no president: the second official election day thread (208 new answers)
# So did Kerry run a good campaign (liberal recrimination time)? (54 new answers, 54+ unread)
# Manitoban Children: Do Not Dress as Seals for Halloween. (113 new answers, 39 unread)
# I need a brilliant excuse to get out of a nightmarish evening (35 new answers, 15 unread)
# Kerry Concedes (9 new answers, 2 unread)
# WHAT THE FUCK WOULD IT TAKE TO GET OUT THE YOUTH VOTE? A GODDAMN PROPOSED BAN ON SNACK FOODS OR MANDATORY VOTING BEFORE ENTERING A MALL??? (25 new answers, 3 unread)
# Things to do in San Francisco (143 new answers, 143 unread)
# Alright, Let's Do This: THE OFFICIAL NOV. 2ND ELECTION DAY THREAD (1535 new answers)
# why do people hate/are people scared of "the homosexuals" so much? (37 new answers, 37+ unread)
# Can anyone familiar with getting work visas in canada/austrailia/europe offer some tips? (9 new answers)
# let's not be CNN here (48 new answers)
# CAN ENGLAND TAKE US (NEW ENGLAND) BACK PLEASE? (36 new answers, 36+ unread)
# New Shoes. (61 new answers, 61 unread)
# Thread Connections XII: Mission Accomplished (58 new answers, 58 unread)
# America you dog dick! (1 new answer, 1+ unread)
# Ok New Yorkers, lets secede....who's with me? (36 new answers, 36+ unread)
# SO since the american people seem to think that changing leaders during a "war" is bad (6 new answers)
# Should we non-Americans boycott the U.S.? (24 new answers, 24+ unread)
# Seinfeld on DVD (2 new answers, 2+ unread)
# Because why not: Roger Fidelity's own election day thread, one to the public (129 new answers, 7 unread)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago)

i'm absolutely appalled it's taken this long for Seinfeld to come out on DVD

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)

There's talk on the dailykos boards about the exit poll numbers being way out of whack with the results in Florida and Ohio, speculation about electronic voting machine fraud... Meanwhile, Blackboxvoting.org has "blanketed the U.S. with the first in a series of public records requests, to obtain internal computer logs and other documents from 3,000 individual counties and townships"... good luck.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago)


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