― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago)
"Before getting to comments on last night's election, I want to make a correction about last evening's comments about the youth vote, comments which were incomplete and partly misleading. Young voters showed up at a far higher level than they did four years ago. But everyone else did too. And so the proportion of the electorate made up by the youth vote did not increase. At least not dramatically -- look at the specific numbers for details. For the Democrats, this was clearly not a good thing. But that doesn't mean that young voters didn't turn out in record proportions."
... so, you know, let's not be so quick to point fingers, eh?
― maura (maura), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)
Young leftists don't vote because it doesn't effect them, plain and simple. They are typically middle class & not likely to join the military, so they don't worry about going to war. They don't pay property tax, and can't think ahead enough to consider that someday they'll have a career & will be giving up a huge chunk of their salary & working until they're dead because Social Security and Medicare will be a thing of the past.
The only thing that appeals to young voters is when a bill is up to make bars close earlier or legalize marijuana. Otherwise, they say "it doesn't make a difference", because to their carpe diem mindset, it really doesn't.
Well kiddos, a big bootfull of reality is about to come kick you square in your lazy, apathetic ass in about a decade.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― mouse (mouse), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― c. (synkro), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago)
― mouse (mouse), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― maura (maura), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago)
VOTE BY AGE BUSH KERRY NADER TOTAL 2004 2004 2004 18-29 (17%) 44% 54% 1% 30-44 (28%) 51% 47% 1% 45-59 (30%) 50% 49% 1% 60 and Older (25%) 53% 46% 0%----
17 + 28 + 30 + 25 = 100%
― c. (synkro), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago)
― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)
that just show you the percentage of ballots cast by each age group. it doesn't show the percentage of registered voters in each age group that voted.
― statto zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago)
so not obvious that this age group was that much more apathetic than any other.
― statto zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago)
you voted for Bush though didn't you? DIDN'T YOU????
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― Dan I., Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago)
I think this may well be spot on.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago)
Zebedee - That was my point exactly, I'm just trying to pin down the 17% people keep citing (it's been mentioned on other threads as well); I think that figure is a misreading. It doesn't necessarily contradict Emilymv's main point, though.
Remember, all these numbers are coming from exit polls, and we've seen how reliable those are.
― c. (synkro), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago)
i'll ruminate on this as i'm being pumped full of hot lead on foreign soil.
― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago)
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago)
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago)
here is the exit poll (oregon's same sex vote was the closest):http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/results/states/OR/I/02/epolls.0.html
― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago)
I think it had more to do with the bigots finally defining the issue in a way (pro-marriage) that otherwise reasonable people could support. I mean, it wasn't TEACHERS WANT TO INSTRUCT YOUR KIDS IN THE WAY OF BUTTSEXXX this time. I also suspect that the rest of the state was really motivated to beat the shit out of uppity Multnomah County on this. (xpost)
Apparently they were scared though.
― c. (synkro), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:19 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago)
Blue Mink's 'Melting Pot' (No.3 in 1969!) would be the national anthem:
Blue Mink Melting Pot
Take a pinch of white man Wrap him up in black skin Add a touch of blue blood And a little bitty bit of red Indian boy Oh like a Curly Latin kinkies Oh Lordy, Lordy, mixed with yellow Chinkees, yeah You know you lump it all together And you got a recipe for a get along scene Oh what a beautiful dream If it could only come true, you know, you know What we need is a great big melting pot Big enough enough enough to take The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee coloured people by the score Rabbis and the friars Vishnus and the gurus We got the Beatles or the Sun God Well it really doesn't matter what religion you choose And be thankful little Mrs. Graceful You know that livin' could be tasteful We should all get together in a lovin machine I think I'll call up the queen It' s only fair that she knows, you know, you know What we need is a great big melting pot Big enough enough enough to take The world and all its got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee coloured people by the score
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago)
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:43 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago)
-- Carey (flembac...), November 3rd, 2004.
Yeah that's how they were doing it in the fake Lloyd Banks porn clip. Huge black cocks with pearly white cum, that's my mans right dere
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:46 (twenty years ago)