― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago)
x-post: So we can go back to the usual room-mates having anal sex on white couches threads? What a relief.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― redfez, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)
This is on the splashpage of CNN.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― maura (maura), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)
Sorry im just listing things I like, to stop myself crying
― lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago)
Oh for fucks sake, it's on the Guardian website.
:-(
― Two-Headed Zombie With No Face (kate), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)
though to be fair it looks like there weren't enough provisional votes to fight about to make a difference in ohio, so maybe I'm harsh on the lack of self respect
joining AA now
― jb, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)
Thanks. Thanks a lot.
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago)
― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago)
That's crap. He's exactly like he has always been now, it's just that everyone got caught up in the RoveCo spin. What a shitty election.
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― Kenan (kenan), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
― emil.y (emil.y), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― aimurchie, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:37 (twenty years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago)
(Dad's a long-time Republican -- I even found his name on an online list of people contributing to the elect-Arnie campaign; my stepmom actually went out and campaigned for Bush in '80!)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:43 (twenty years ago)
See, I can't even type correctly.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago)
"Four more years!" is such an ugly chant, from anyone.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago)
PS FUCK FUCK FUCK
― Satan's Onion (twowaydream), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:52 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago)
-- Satan's Onion (twowaydrea...), November 3rd, 2004. (twowaydream) (later)
It's funny, or perhaps not, but the cutaways on CNN to the crowd revealed a grouping of tall, hott, YOUNG white men by a vast majority. Some white females and elderly honkies also scattered about, but alas I didn't even glimpse any token coloreds.
― Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― Kenan (kenan), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― Margus Kiis, estonian rock critic (Margus Kiis, estonian rock cri), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago)
Heh, really. Amusing.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago)
Dear Anthony,
Earlier today I spoke to President Bush, and offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory. We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need, for unity for finding the common ground, coming together. Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America, it is vital that every vote counts, and that every vote be counted. But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process. I would not give up this fight if there was a chance that we would prevail. But it is now clear that even when all the provisional ballots are counted, which they will be, there won't be enough outstanding votes for our campaign to be able to win Ohio. And therefore, we cannot win this election.
It was a privilege and a gift to spend two years traveling this country, coming to know so many of you. I wish I could just wrap you in my arms and embrace each and every one of you individually all across this nation. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
To all of you, my volunteers and online supporters, all across this country who gave so much of themselves, thank you. Thanks to William Field, a six-year-old who collected $680, a quarter and a dollar at a time selling bracelets during the summer to help change America. Thanks to Michael Benson from Florida who I spied in a rope line holding a container of money. It turned out he raided his piggy bank and wanted to contribute. And thanks to Alana Wexler, who at 11 years old and started Kids for Kerry.
I thank all of you, who took time to travel, time off from work, and their own vacation time to work in states far and wide. You braved the hot days of summer and the cold days of the fall and the winter to knock on doors because you were determined to open the doors of opportunity to all Americans. You worked your hearts out, and I say, don't lose faith. What you did made a difference, and building on itself, we will go on to make a difference another day. I promise you, that time will come -- the election will come when your work and your ballots will change the world, and it's worth fighting for.
I'm proud of what we stood for in this campaign, and of what we accomplished. When we began, no one thought it was possible to even make this a close race, but we stood for real change, change that would make a real difference in the life of our nation, the lives of our families, and we defined that choice to America. I'll never forget the wonderful people who came to our rallies, who stood in our rope lines, who put their hopes in our hands, who invested in each and every one of us. I saw in them the truth that America is not only great, but it is good.
So here -- with a grateful heart, I leave this campaign with a prayer that has even greater meaning to me now that I've come to know our vast country so much better and that prayer is very simple: God bless America.
Thank you,
John Kerry
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Quisenberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago)
Even Hitler wasn't this unpopular outside his own country.
― Peace In Our Time, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago)
I'm sure the near-half of the nation that voted for Kerry appreciates your concern.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― aimurchie, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago)
I sympathize with you, Michael. I am now contemplating a christmas in the Midwest with a huge crowd of inlaws who would have overwhelmingly voted for Bush. It's enough that I usually have to hear about "the gays on tv" and "the Mexican problem" in Indiana. Last year, I had to hold my tongue when speaking with my father in-law about the failure of US troops to protect the Iraqi National Museum from looters. "We're not there to protect the place" he said. Grrrrrrrr!
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago)
they think bush is strong on israel and hard on arabs. something he said to me a couple weeks ago disgusted me to such a degree that i'm ashamed to even relate it here (and be related to him, for that matter). since bro turned family man, he's gone quite disturbingly pro-israel fundie. it's very sad, i used to like the way he thought.
i think my other brother just gets a kick out of moral certainty. somewhat ironically, his left brain is one of the best i've encountered.
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:31 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:35 (twenty years ago)
..and people wonder why I'm so angry all the time.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago)
Left for work at 7am (almost an hour early) just to get away. The deserted streets, the dark, whichever song came on seemed to fuel the feeling of hopelessness.
First John Peel, now this. We're losing. We're just losing.
― Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:14 (twenty years ago)
Doesn't work that way, really. I fear the my mother is largely indicative of the majority of dyed-in-the-wool Republicans -- they believe every little soundbyte/talking point they're fed. She's never met a Republican attack ad she didn't heartily endorse. To hear my mother spin it, John Kerry was actually a double-agent for the Viet Cong.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago)
Doesn't work that way, really. I fear that my mother is largely indicative of the majority of dyed-in-the-wool Republicans -- they believe every little soundbyte/talking point they're fed. She's never met a Republican attack ad she didn't heartily endorse. To hear my mother spin it, John Kerry was actually a double-agent for the Viet Cong.
She went on for fuckin' DAYS about how "classless" Theresa Heinz Kerry was for saying "shove it" to an aggressive journalist, but did she utter a single "gasp" when it was reported that Cheney told someone to go fuck themselves? Of course not.
She's evil. And not in a fun, Dio/Slayer sort've way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:58 (twenty years ago)
i also got that form e-mail from john kerry. i know that it was a form e-mail sent to millions on the DNC mailing list, but i cannot delete it just yet either. *sigh*
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago)
Fair point, Ally, but that's not the case in this instance -- it's just a double standard in my mother's case. Trust me on this one.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago)
― can we all stop shrieking, please?, Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago)
There are many, MANY things ahead of that when it comes to "the problem."
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago)