http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1099451902163
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago)
Why do I think that Isreal/Palestine is about to erupt into flames?
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― papa november (papa november), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
http://www.trigonalmayhem.com/arafat-paint-saddam.jpg
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― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)
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― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)
I mean, it works for us here in the US, right?
― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago)
Damn, that's cold!
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)
It doesn't matter though, clearly he's in no condition to lead and they've got to choose his successor, like today.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago)
wait, do we have one of those?
― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Ragget, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago)
The doctor says he is definitely alive and not in a coma.
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Ragget, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― Cawum (Gear!), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)
Right now, the PA has had its own problems -- the gig is up, the Palestinians in Gaza don't trust the PA in the least (eureka), and no PR or "looping" in by Israel will change that.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago)
(in other news: are there any big plans by the Arab Coalition to secure and support the Gaza area once Israel pulls out? I'm guessing not.)
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago)
If Palestinians want to put their trust in Hamas, that's their choice. Nobody, including Israel, the US, and the UN can prevent that. The only people that had the power to do anything about it was the PA. They chose to spend their billions on armies, weapons, and terror groups. And on themselves, can't forget about that. And state-sponsored Anti-Semitism, can't forget about that either. They cultivated a Palestinian culture that stands for hate and violence and now they've got a real problem because the fringe movements they nutured are now threatening to become more popular than they are.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago)
ARGH
― Spinning Down Alone You Spin Alive (ex machina), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago)
"You see, people in the middle east want to be free. When dictators see other dictators brought down, that has a, uh...a pow'rful eeffect. Sumtimes, they just up and die! And other times, they piss themselves and then dismantle their nucular programs, like Qaddafi. Either way, we are building a stronger, freer, more democratic middle east through all this...this pissing and dying."
― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago)
― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 4 November 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago)
Terror chief: Arafat died of AIDS. Confidante says Abbas told him contents of French medical report
― Je4nne Fuhfuh, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
Timing is curious, no?
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.bushspeaks.com/img/yasser_gives_blood_for_WTC.jpg
― gr8080, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago)
define:Frum
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)
monkey
― kenan, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago)
Who dies from AIDS now anyways?
― libcrypt, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:44 (seventeen years ago)
africans
― hstencil, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, but Arafat had more money than all Africans combined, approximately.
― libcrypt, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago)
To elaborate on my last comment, I would not be surprised if this was an attempt to tarnish a major martyr figure for Fatah as Hamas jockeys for position.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 20 July 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, I would always give extreme credibility to any story I see in WorldNetDaily, as they are free of the "spin" of the liberalcommunist media.
― libcrypt, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago)
The last place I heard this story was in Popbitch.
I have also heard that Arafat was poisoned by Mossad.
I understand also that he faked his own death and is still alive.
In fact, he is the Hidden Imam, and is consequently hiding somewhere.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago)
he's betting on horses, including Shergar, ridden by 2Pac, owned by Lord Lucan
― blueski, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago)
I heard something about him making an appearence in the USA last November, when Rick Santorum lost some election.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 20 July 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago)
Polonium 210, just like Litvinenko? It's being said in The Lancet, apparently.
― StanM, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago)
So it was him! He must have poisoned Litvinenko!
― StanM, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago)
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/10/arafat-and-polonium-poisoning-a-sort-of-update/
― Mordy , Monday, 14 October 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago)
Belgian papers are running the story, which is where I got it from - should have known this is yet another one of the typical "first get the scoop and the clicks, then publish a correction a couple of days later" stories again. :-/
― StanM, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago)
The head of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency (FMBA) Vladimir Uiba believes that the cause of death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat could not be polonium poisoning.
"He could not have been poisoned with polonium. Russian experts conducting a study said traces of this substance were not found," - said Uiba to "Interfax" on Tuesday.
He added that experts FMBA conducted a detailed examination of the remains of Arafat. However, they regularly inform the Russian Foreign Ministry on the progress of investigations.
― Mordy , Tuesday, 15 October 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/06/yasser-arafat-poisoned-polonium-tests-scientists
Lead story on Guardian website now.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago)
So last month's story that was kinda debunked is now officially rebunked again?
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago)
From the BBC:
The scientists - from the Vaudois University Hospital Centre (CHUV) in Lausanne, Switzerland - carried out a detailed examination of Arafat's medical records, samples taken from his remains and items he had taken into the hospital in Paris where he died in 2004.Continue reading the main storySwiss scientists' findingsExperts at the Vaudois University Hospital Centre (CHUV) in Lausanne, Switzerland, conducted tests on samples taken from Yasser Arafat's exhumed body in November 2012Samples also analysed by Palestinian, French and Russian teams, whose findings have yet to be published by the Palestinian AuthoritySwiss report says "unexpectedly high levels of polonium-210 and lead-210 activity" found in specimens taken from Arafat's ribs, pelvis and soil that absorbed his bodily fluidsIt notes a lack of adequate biological specimens, particularly soft tissues, and the eight years between death and the investigation, rendering detection subject to uncertaintiesBut it concludes results "moderately support the proposition that the death was the consequence of poisoning with polonium-210"They stressed that there were several critical problems with their investigations, including the time passed since Arafat's death, the limited samples available and the confused "chain of custody" of some of the specimens.But they concluded: "Taking into account the analytical limitations aforementioned, mostly time lapse since death and the nature and quality of the specimens, the results moderately support the proposition that the death was the consequence of poisoning with polonium-210."Polonium-210 is a highly radioactive substance. It is found in low doses in food and created naturally in the body, but can be fatal if ingested in high doses.Parallel investigations are being carried out by French and Russian experts - one Russian official said last month that no traces of polonium had been found.
Continue reading the main storySwiss scientists' findings
Experts at the Vaudois University Hospital Centre (CHUV) in Lausanne, Switzerland, conducted tests on samples taken from Yasser Arafat's exhumed body in November 2012Samples also analysed by Palestinian, French and Russian teams, whose findings have yet to be published by the Palestinian Authority
Swiss report says "unexpectedly high levels of polonium-210 and lead-210 activity" found in specimens taken from Arafat's ribs, pelvis and soil that absorbed his bodily fluidsIt notes a lack of adequate biological specimens, particularly soft tissues, and the eight years between death and the investigation, rendering detection subject to uncertaintiesBut it concludes results "moderately support the proposition that the death was the consequence of poisoning with polonium-210"
They stressed that there were several critical problems with their investigations, including the time passed since Arafat's death, the limited samples available and the confused "chain of custody" of some of the specimens.
But they concluded: "Taking into account the analytical limitations aforementioned, mostly time lapse since death and the nature and quality of the specimens, the results moderately support the proposition that the death was the consequence of poisoning with polonium-210."
Polonium-210 is a highly radioactive substance. It is found in low doses in food and created naturally in the body, but can be fatal if ingested in high doses.
Parallel investigations are being carried out by French and Russian experts - one Russian official said last month that no traces of polonium had been found.
― Mordy , Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago)
I'm very skeptical of any results for now - there are a lot of people involved in this project that have a vested interest in producing a particular answer. That's generally a good sign to be wary of any findings until all the data is in.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/08/a_martyr_unmartyred_yasser_arafat_last_days
― Mordy , Saturday, 9 November 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago)
morde d'arfat
― buzza, Saturday, 9 November 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago)
http://www.nature.com/news/no-firm-proof-arafat-was-poisoned-1.14130
― Mordy , Monday, 11 November 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25205170#TWEET973778
Yasser Arafat 'was not poisoned' - leaked French report
― Mordy , Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago)