Anyone now wishing they'd backed Nader instead?

I voted for Kerry in 04. I was looking at Nader's 1% of the vote, higher in NY where the Nader campaign told voters it was safe to cast the vote and not cost the Democrats the state. It would have higher if people like me voted for him again.

It seems impossible for us to oust the Republicans because of the South and Midwest so next time I hope Democrats who are thinking seriously about the party platforms vote for Nader because the Republicrats can't produce a candidate for real change. Seeing those numbers rise might frighten the Democrats into folding some of the Green platform issues into their platform.

I want Michael Moore to run for President. That's what I want. I wonder how much of the vote he would get.

But aren't orgies "near-queer" at the very least? What an ass!

yeah the dems should nominate nader so that people who care at all about abortion rights or gay rights will have nowhere to turn to, great idea

I would vote for anyone who is pledged to try to come as close to these ideals as possible.

The Democrats need to completely demolish their current structure & find a way to become more accessible to voters on the far left, while at the same time developing a simpleton rhetorical approach that appeals to the conservative "moral majority". It's not going to be easy.

The biggest obstacle to the Democratic Party is their image--as a bunch of commie tax-raisers who want to kill babies & take guns out of peoples' hands. They need to do a better job of combatting that image, especially among the working class. It's shameful that the Democrats represent blue-collar America much more fairly than the right wingers, but they can't get them to identify with them at all.

John Kerry, in retrospect, was a horrible choice. A Catholic Bostonite who uses big words is not going to appeal to Southern and Midwestern voters. What we needed was another Clinton.

Face it, folks--a Yankee isn't going to be the next president. Neither is a woman, a black or a Jew. It's going to have to be a white-bread Southern boy, heavy-drinkin', gun-totin' bubba.

Hey--Hunter S. Thompson in 2008!

Just kidding; but I fear that at least for the next couple of decades, we're not going to able able to elect a Democrat unless his carrying around a bible & a handful of poisonous snakes. The South and midwest doesn't care about ecomomy--they care about maintaining their ideology. And anyone who deviates from it is an infidel & a heathen and won't be fit to shine the shoes of the next president.

Nothing like being held a political slave by 100 million Jesus freaks...time to take up arms, people.

Exactly. How can they when most of the nation's wealth doesn't come from them, but rather flows TO them from the (largely democratic) civilized regions of the country?

Not very much.

I shall continue to be a registered Green. I will continue to vote as strategically as I know how. My values don't change, but my emphasis can and does, as the situation warrants.

And at this point, I'm about ready to apply the above belief to fucking Democrats. Good grief.

who else (besides me) voted Nader in 2000?

see above

Did, would do it again because my vote was completely irrelevant.

mine wasn't, but i didn't know that at the time!

I think I voted for him in the primary? Same thing, didn't matter here.

I did.

One of my managers spent the post-election day shift yelling at me for not voting for Gore, she could not wrap her head around the reality that he lost Texas by 20 points.

the idealism of youth

I didn't vote for him - he'd be a good labor secretary or something, I just didn't see him in the WH

if you were in a state where blue wasn't winning yeah, vote for whoever the fuck, really.

never figured my first election vote would be the most fucked up one in the 21st century.

or where blue was winning by default (NYC/Cali)

I voted Nader in 2000, I was v v deep in my "fuck the two party system" feelings.

Of course my state was in absolutely in no danger going anywhere but blue, so...

how many 'Hanging Chads' bands were started that year

I was registered to vote in Georgia, so I wrote in Nader

I was in a solid blue state, so I specifically voted Green in the (retrospectively very stupid) hope that they would get the 3% popular vote that would help the party going forward (see Ross Perot/Reform Party in 1992)

Now I hate the Green party almost as much as Republicans

is it 3%? I forget now

5% for matching funds IIRC

yeah that was the reason I voted for him too. well and also to appear superior to all of my friend.

though tbh his platform in 2000 is something I still support

In the wake of the WTC protests, start of the NAFTA fallout, etc. picking Joe Liebermann was a fuck you to young people and what passed for the left of the party at the time that deserved to be punished, it was impossible to predict 9/11 and what the GOP could pull off in the wake of it.

I actually argued it was nbd when Bush got elected, at the time

Considering the shenanigans in Florida and subsequent court decision, anyone who blames Nader for Gore’s loss is just a closet Republican/expert at punching down.

The Florida high jinks weren’t just limited to hanging chads either. I have yet to see any real refutation of Greg Palast’s investigation for the BBC showing Jeb Bush illegally disenfranchised thousands of black voters. (Of course the Beeb took down that coverage long ago, but it was there originally.)

there was a ton of fuckery in FL that got swept under the rug. like how Pat Buchanan won all those votes in that one county due to the butterfly ballot confusion