Can we stop calling them "Fundamentalists"?

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I mean, it seems that most of their views have less to do with the basic fundamentals of their beliefs, and more to do with judgement. Can we not agree to call them "Judgementalists"?

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Just "mentalists" would do, really

― Bumfluff, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That's like not calling them Libertarians because they're not from Libertaria, dude.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Bumfluff beat me to it.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My first thought at this thread title was "Who? The Christians or the Muslims?"

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't make much difference in the end.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Please can we call them hatesfundamentalists?

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to have the same thoughts as peepee, that the word 'fundamentalist' bestowed respectability on such beliefs by implying that theirs was an untainted take on religion. Now I think I agree with kingfish that it doesn't really matter what you call it - they'd go ahead with their pig-headed beliefs anyway.

I liked the bit in The Power Of Nightmares where the historian said that the practical problem with extreme Islamist fundamentalism is that once you start believing that there's only one true way of following Islam, and that anyone who deviates it is no longer a Muslim and can thus be killed as part of a holy war, you tend to end up falling out with your comrades, killing them off, and ending up with just yourself left and not much of a movement.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

not entirely confined to the islamists though, alba. see also french/russian revolutionaries, and, with more snide looks and less actual killing, the british left...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"no-fundamentalists"!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

For sure, Carsmile. It's just that that was what TPON was focussing on.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, fair dos. i was watching the last ep of TPON last night on video. i was expecting at one point, a visual to flash up to say:

STOP BELIEVING WHAT THEY SAY, NUMPTIES!!!!

or similar. thoroughly enjoyable (if a little depressing) though.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That dirty bombs are a practical non-starter was a revelation to me (and didn't seem one of the things that it felt like there might be another side of the story to). And the stuff on the origins of the popularization of the term 'Al-Qaeda'. Random Islamist terrorists dotted around the world that sometimes come into contact with one another: a bit worrying. Islamist extremists around the world belonging to a shadowy 'loosely-knit' network with a name: in practical terms exactly the same, but suddenly a major threat to our way of life, worthy of waging wars and eroding civil liberties.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"My first thought at this thread title was 'Who? The Christians or the Muslims?'"

Of course, I mean all of them, though "fundamentalist Buddhist" really doesn't have the same tone to it, does it?

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm a fundamentalist agnostic, some of the time

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not like it's some randomly chosen noun people thought sounded right, though (well, arguably for Islamic fundamentalists, it is). I understand the complaint, but fundamentalism did start as, you know, fundamentalism -- a single organized movement, self-named, based around "the five fundamentals." Protestants don't protest much, Catholics aren't catholic, but it would be silly to look for new names for the sake of maintaining accurate connotations.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, it might be silly....

...thus, appropriate!

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's time to put the fun back in fundamentalism!

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But what about the mentalism?!

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.xtec.es/~lvallmaj/preso/stalin.jpg

And don't forget the "da."

― Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~maroen/engels/album/bornusa.jpg

Or the fundament, for that matter.

― Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

www.funwithdamentalists.com

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

FUN DAMEN FUR ALLES!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

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