Assimilate or starve: eat at Applebee's

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Apparently, some of our 'new Democrat' friends have decided that their problem is that they don't eat at Applebee's.

One veteran Democratic strategist, Clinton White House political director Doug Sosnik, sums up the answer in one word: Applebee’s.

For Sosnik, the chain of modestly priced restaurants (more than 1,600 in 49 states), symbolizes precisely what is wrong with the party’s Washington-based elite.

Democratic leaders are out of touch with the American people, Sosnik said in a panel discussion Tuesday sponsored by the centrist Democratic Leadership Council (DLC).

“The leadership of our party has a cultural disconnect,” Sosnik said. “Our leaders — particularly Washington, D.C.-based — don’t really have the same life, day to day, as all those people out there in those red states. We don’t eat at the same restaurants. I don’t know how many politicians in town that are leaders of our party who voluntarily go to Applebee’s, unless it’s for work. You look at the swing voters out there, what their sporting events are, the music they listen to, the celebrities, the television programs, it’s just not what the East Coast leadership (watches) — it’s not quite where we are.”

"Talk about Applebee's, we don't even go to the Cracker Barrels and the Denny’s as well," added Donna Brazile, who served as Al Gore's campaign manager in 2000.

This is straight out of David Brooks, of course, who wrote:

""On my journeys to Franklin County, I set a goal: I was going to spend $20 on a restaurant meal. But although I ordered the most expensive thing on the menu -- steak au jus, 'slippery beef pot pie,' or whatever -- I always failed. I began asking people to direct me to the most-expensive places in town. They would send me to Red Lobster or Applebee's," he wrote. "I'd scan the menu and realize that I'd been beaten once again. I went through great vats of chipped beef and 'seafood delight' trying to drop $20. I waded through enough surf-and-turfs and enough creamed corn to last a lifetime. I could not do it."

Thomas Frank in 'What's the Matter with Kansas' also mentions Applebee's, which is headquartered in - you guessed it - Kansas.

Just what exactly is the significance of Applebee's?

Fast Facts
Applebee's® International, Inc. develops, franchises and operates casual dining restaurants under the trademark of Applebee's Neighborhood Grill & Bar®. The company is headquartered in Overland Park, Kansas.

Applebee's is the largest casual dining concept in the world with more than 1,600 restaurants in 49 states and ten international countries.

For each of the past 11 years (1993-2003), Applebee's has opened 100 or more new restaurants. This rate of development - growing from 250 restaurants at the end of 1992 to more than 1,600 currently - is unprecedented in the casual dining industry.

Applebee's currently estimates the development potential of the concept to be at least 3,000 restaurants in the United States.

According to Nation's Restaurant News, Applebee's is the ninth largest restaurant chain in U.S. system-wide sales and, within the casual dining segment, Applebee's is first in number of units, first in sales and first in market share.

The décor of each Applebee's restaurant reflects its local neighborhood by displaying photographs and memorabilia highlighting hometown heroes and history, area schools, and local police and fire departments.

This article from Alternet has some insights.

In the end, it's not food we're eating, but the concept of authenticity itself. That's what's being gobbled like so many breadsticks at Olive Garden. That's what's getting carried home to be microwaved in those little Styrofoam containers.

We allow ourselves to believe in the reality of the fake so we can enjoy the superior feeling of having mastered it. And what better way to do that than by eating. Not food in some funky little mom-and-pop authentic joint, which wouldn't be relevant at all. But our version of what their food would taste like if they ever perfected it conceptually. That's what's on the plate at Olive Garden.

It started out with Chi-Chi's and Benihana, Bennigan's and Olive Garden. But 'deracinated' ethnic foodstuffs are not enough - even white Protestant flyover America needs assimilation. They even repackage local history on the walls of their restaurants! Who needs the local historical society or public library? "No matter what your taste, we’ve got something for everyone!"

So that's it. We can win the culture war by joining the steak stampede!


k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

This makes me want to pound big spikey nails into peoples' skulls with a burning Bible.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know you were religious.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

look, if you're eatin' good in the neighborhood, you're living large!

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the owner of the several applebees' here is much hated by the local mom and pop restaurant owners because he was a major supporter of the smoking ban which has hurt lots of smaller businesses here. also, he is a dickface. also, applebees food is grody. also, they own the baseball field, applebees' park. i am surprised they didn't name the team the happy hour specials.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's all go to the Sizzlin' Skillet

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is completely fucking retarded.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The true key to understanding voters is eating at Claim Jumper.

Nemo (JND), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

First of all, David Brooks is a fucking idiot.

Actually, that's all for now.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Democrats' long-term strategy: go to Applebee's BUT BUT BUT while the Republicans have the Atkins'-approved high-cholesterol cheese-covered steak dishes while the Democrats will cunningly get the salads, ho ho!

End-result: GOPers will plop their clogs faster than Democrats will.


Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

UM, isn't it "pop their clogs"?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a typo but I'm keeping because it sounds more appropriately disgusting.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

So they believe we should pander to these people? How about defending principles and using those principles to formulate policy based upon facts and let people eat wherever they like.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You obviously eat at Outback Steakhouse.

Nemo (JND), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think you can really criticize the idea of this form of pandering, as it already goes on all of the time. i saw no outrage about kerry (a white catholic) attending and speaking at black protestant churches. i think he, teresa, edwards, and elizabeth also made a show of going to wendy's while on the campaign trail. while it is silly and transparent, it isn't harmful.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Applebee's vs. The Garden of Eatin'

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Talking Points in response (sorta, I think this was actually written and posted first!).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Our PM ate at McDonald's on budget day as an ongoing media joke.
I don't think he supersized.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate Applebee's. I hate Chili's even more. I don't understand the appeal of these places where you have to sit outside on a fake park bench for an hour with a remote-controlled vibrating buzzer in your hand .

Last time I was dragged to Chili's, my dad ordered the fajitas. They came out on their special plate, but I noticed something was missing. Dad started in, and I asked him if his food was hot enough. He grunted affirmatively. I then pointed out that the plate had been making that annoying sizzle that usually comes with fajitas, it being one of the loud foods and all.

We asked the waiter who sheepishly told us that they usually squirt a little sumpin-sumpin' on the plate to activate the noise and had forgotten to do so with my dad's plate. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH CHILI'S, APPLEBEE'S, ET. AL.

However, just the fact that every single one of these places is packed every Friday and Saturday night shows that I'm in the minority. After all, the most profitable single restaurant in my state is a Red Lobster out by the mall in North Little Rock.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/040210_pop/images/mercerchretien.jpg

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Joe Santiago
40, General manager of the Olive Garden, 2 Times Square

When tourists come to an intimidating place like Times Square, they're comforted when they see something they recognize from their hometowns. The thing I hear most often from out-of-town guests - people from Kansas City, Chicago, California - is: "We didn't know you were here. We've been in New York over a week, this is our last day, and we're so excited we've discovered the Olive Garden." They say their experiences in other New York restaurants have not been friendly. When I'm doing the hiring process, I look for a lot of employees from out of town, so when the guests come in, they can relate. I don't feel that Times Square has changed much since I was a kid. It's always been bright and exciting, and it still packs the same energy. Corporations have made America strong; I don't see anything wrong with corporations coming into Times Square. The Olive Garden is just part of the neighborhood.

Does John Coltrane Dream of a Merry-go-round? (ex machina), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm. The amount of bile that quote creates in my soul is enough to kill me, so perhaps I should not stoke it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

What?? The food makes noise!?

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

This logic has always mystified me. Why come to New York at all if you want to have an experience just like one you would have in your home town? These restaurants are more expensive in NYC than out in the heartland, too, so it's not like you're saving much money.

Nemo (JND), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ever been to a town where the only options to eat out are chain restaurants?

You can come visit me and find out what it's like.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Sizzle sizzle sizzle! You can hear your plate coming from the back of the restaurant.

x-post

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

My god, that's psychological warfare!

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

This is such fucking bullshit. Do Republican politicians make a habit of eating at Applebee's? I hate this genre of "Democrats could have won if they had..." articles, because they inevitably recommend actions that would either be blatantly suicidal or make them complete clones of Republicans.

(as I was writing this a page I had in the background gave me an Applebee's pop-up. It was fucking creepy.)

Dan I., Monday, 15 November 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"First of all, David Brooks is a fucking idiot."

Jesus is this OTFUCKINGM.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No, actually I kinda like Applebee's. The Olive Garden, too. The food's not subtle at all, but I find they're really very serviceable restaurants, if I want eat something involving meat.

I also don't object to the pandering aspect of the suggestion. What I find obnoxious is how Applebee's is treated a synecdoche for everything the Democrats don't understand. I bet the very same people they're trying to court would find this tactic condescending and trivializing that everything they stand for can, in a short-hand way, be embodied by a restaurant. (So maybe I am put off by the pandering.)

"We're going to eat at your Applebee's to understand your kind better."

"Uh, that's great...how about going to our churches instead?"

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)


Applebee's is a mistranslation of red America - mistranslated by the same types who think they should eat there more often.

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)


Not that they're really going to eat there, it's all marketing.

k3rry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Applebee's food is gross, especially if you are vegetarian, but even if you're not. Olive Garden is more my style, though I haven't eaten there since I moved to a big city where there are more options.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(actually john and elizabeth edwards have a big thing about Wendy's, they celebrate their anniversary there every year. I guess John and Teresa just get dragged along.)

teeny (teeny), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i would love it if they opened a cracker barrel and old country buffet in nyc.

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I really hate restaurant snobbery. I actually really like Chili's! Haven't been to Applebee's but I see no reason why it wouldn't be a pleasurable experience, especially since the brand is so well defined (has anyone seen that 'stay open for the football team' spot?).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the cracker barrel that opened in the small town where i grew up (the place has an extremely limited number of restaurants) broke all of the records of any opening the chain ever had. you have to call and make reservations ahead of time.

yes, i have seen the commercial, spencer. it really isn't pleasurable, though. friday's totally owns applebees. as does max and ermas.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost don't remind me, i'll start weeping again

John (jdahlem), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss Cracker Barrell big time. :-(

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

it really isn't pleasurable, though

I have a friend who, whenever she visits her Mom and sister in Michigan, goes to Applebees. The brand reminds her of meals with them. I guess I have a similar thing with Chili's and my parents. I just think it's harsh to condemn these restaurants. I understand how they might be considered part of "the problem" (not gourmet, chain, destroying mom n' pop), but at the same time, I think it's a mistake to criticize them in the way that many cosmopolitan types do - people often have a deep psychic investment in these (problem) brands and places which should not be ignored (or criticized too harshly).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(that wasn't really directed at you Emily, btw)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Restaurants that suck, but are awesome:

1) Denny's
2) IHOP
3) Sizzler
4) Shoney's
5) Chili's

Kenan (kenan), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that argument doesn't make any sense to me as you seem to be advocating a vicious cycle kind of thing

John (jdahlem), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Please elaborate.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Applebee's. The honey mustard they use for the chicken fingers kicks ass.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, they need a Perkins in NYC, complete with a snarling pack of 15-year-old girls seated in non-smoking against their wishes. I don't think I've eaten in this genre of restaurant since I was 15, although Dennys and Embers, different story, but only for expediency and 24-hour service. Once we figured out where the 24 hour diners WITHOUT glacial go-away aircon (even in winter) were, we went there instead. And they were cheaper. Most of my male relatives were on some kind of grail quest for the perfect cheeseburger so we didn't tend to pull in to chains when I was there.

Wendy's is hands-down the best national fast food chain in America. They had a London one and I really miss it.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i had lunch at an applebee's yesterday. it was vile.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not saying that as a "food snob," i'm saying that as an american citizen.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Suzy,
What do you like so much about Wendy's? It's one place I avoid. I guess square patties just seem unholy.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 15 November 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Not to be a big ol' elitist or anything, but I feel sorry for people who don't live above a diner with a $4 biscuits-gravy-and-fried-eggs special.

Kenan (kenan), Monday, 15 November 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

it turned out to be a pretty expensive joke though.

You wacky urbanites, going to Red Lobster and Olive Garden as "a joke". I know of many suburbanites who would be very confused by this "joke". A joke? What's so funny about eating at Carrino's? It's good food at a decent price! That's funny?

I'm also enjoying this thread b/w the Steak & Shake thread. Fuck national chains unless they're serving chili fries!

On the rare occasion that I go to a coffe shop now, it's Caribou.

And maybe it was just an urban legend, but isn't Caribou owned by Saudis who gave money to Hamas? I'll stick with Domino's and Chik-Fil-A.

Actually, I go to Paul's up the street. I don't go to the national chains partly because of politics, but mostly because they're a great big fucking hassle to get in and out of. I assume that the waitress at Browning's is making enough money since she's been there since the Johnson administration. Guilt-free cheese dip, my friends.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Death to Applebee's, anyway, for their heinous ad campaign -- the one that features the shrieking voice of Satan singing a jingle to the tune of the Newbeats' godawful "Bread & Butter."

briania (briania), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it is just an urban legend about caribou, although i guess it's possible that the mystery sauds have hired a pair of actors to portray the founding (caucasian) couple.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, yeah. i don't even know where to begin with our "joke" dinners. except for the fact that if the laugh was on anyone, it was on us. i was up half the night after the olive garden convinced i was developing ptomaine poisoning. if carino's really is good food at a decent price then i applaud them, b/c the o.g. certainly doesn't rate in either category.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)


This is such a joke, because the trashy polluted suburb where I grew up was also known for its five-star French restaurant (which is now closed, though), and it had an award-winning Italian restaurant as well.

k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

wheeling, illinois?

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, yeah. i don't even know where to begin with our "joke" dinners. except for the fact that if the laugh was on anyone, it was on us.

yeah it was funny for a minute. "ha!ha! look at us! we're normal americans eating normal food with other normal americans!" but then soon realized that just for $20 more we could have each had the tasting menu at Le Bernadin. stupid stupid stupid

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Suzy, I think your condemnation is way over the top.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I do think it's very important to fight back against this attempt, by the Republicans and increasingly by members of their own party, to portray them as the party of the upper-middle class. The Republicans are managing to claim they represent the working class based upon nonsense like 'Democrats don't eat at Applebee's' ands endless whining about 'Hollywood' liberals. This is partly the Democrats fault, of course, for allowing it to happen, and for contributing towards it by trying to find a virtue in the fact that college graduates vote for them, by refusing to speak to the working class. Democrats need to get rid of this odd image of themselves as wine-drinking, french-speaking, poetry-reading, coffee-house-going urban professionals, while emphasising that none of these things are bad. Mostly because it is a lie that this is what the party is, and if the Democrats can position themselves once again as the party of the manual worker, of ethnic minorities and consumer rights, I see no reason why they can't win the next election. This won't happen while Sosnik spouts this kind of nonsense.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Something I don't understand: the lack of love shown to FUDDRUCKERS.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

They do serve ostrich burgers .. (is that an elitist menu choice?) .. but the place kind of smells like raw meat ...

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

If I wanted to build my own burger, I'd stay the fuck home. It's like Kramer's "make your own pizza" idea.

Kenan (kenan), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It smells like raw meat because ONE POUNDER BURGERS!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Fuddrucker's somehow connected to Fudpucker's? I haven't kept up.

I once got in trouble at school for wearing a Fudpucker's shirt.

You Ain't Been Pucked 'Til You Been FUDPUCKED!

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Looking back on it all, my principal may have had a valid point.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

raw meat smells delightful.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Yeah, that's evocative in way too many ways. Something about... anal sex with a hockey stick?

Kenan (kenan), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I ate at Chili's for lunch with some coworkers (the sales manager paid, so...). True, they have the black bean substitution option, but mostly everything was a la chicken. I mean, they had like 6 different salad entrees, all featuring chicken.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

My God why would you want a salad without chicken? This is a class issue, isn't it? It's because you hate the red states.

Kenan (kenan), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What, Spencer, you went to Wendy's?

Being trapped in a foul exurb every other weekend as a teenager probably has coloured my impressions of those places slightly, but like Aimurchie I have seen the staff manuals written by chain-restaurant overlords. I worked for a day at Perkins once - my mom went apeshit when she saw that they ruled that you had to turn up to work actually wearing the uniform. "Wait, they're trying to dictate your appearance at times they're not even paying you to wear that thing? No sale!"

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

far more depressing than exurbs (i'm still not quite clear what these are, dislocated suburbs?) are these recently-known-to-me sprawling trailer parks (more or less) located a half hour drive from any kind of town at all, and therefore from any kind of restaurant, grocery, gas station, etc. does anyone know what i'm talking about? they exist like 45 minutes away from where i live and i had no idea.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes that happens because that's the only place trailer parks can get built--no municipality will accept them.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

it wasn't just trailer parks though - some were what amounted to run-down shacks (that had maybe been there for ages, in which case i kind of understand), but some were typical middle-class subdivisions, only out in the middle of nowhere. i have no idea how they got there, or why anyone would want to live there. there's a whole bunch of these around havana, il.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I waited tables at a Ground Round once. People gorging themselves on ribs and beer like there was no tomorrow. Nice tippers.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
This is her cone.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

damn skanks.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/y/Q/athfcarl.jpg

31g (31g), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

i'll miss cambridge and its plethora of non-chain restaurants when it comes time to leave this area...

also, xxxpost, the ground round is absolutely foul. it's like fucking friendly's with drinks.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:27 (twenty years ago)

And no Fribbles.

Hunter, Age 3 (Hunter), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Waffle House>Chili's>IHOP>Bennigans>Friday's>Friendly's>Denny's>Big Boy>Applebee's

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Forget restaurants though, it's time the Dems start putting on a few pounds.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 12 May 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
so has anyone read Applebee's America yet?

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Pwned by IHOP.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Evolve or die:

Ms. Stewart acknowledges that Applebee’s has not aged well, and that it has become indistinguishable from the other “apostrophe-s” restaurants like Chili’s or T.G.I. Friday’s.

Above all, she and industry analysts agree, the menu has grown stagnant. Ms. Stewart is trying to steer Applebee’s into more adventurous waters.

It would be hard to imagine a more challenging time to do that. Food and fuel costs are up while the amount of money customers are willing to spend is down.

In recent months, Bennigan’s and its sister restaurant, Steak & Ale, filed for bankruptcy. Almost half of the people who own chain restaurants think things are going to get worse in next six months, according to a recent survey by the National Restaurant Association.

“It’s been a disaster,” said Sharon Zackfia, a restaurant analyst with William Blair & Company, an investment firm. “There’s been nowhere to hide.”

But Ms. Stewart loves a challenge, and she believes that small but important menu changes that will be introduced in the coming months will lead her to victory.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

That sassy-talking apple RIP

Abbott, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

small but important menu changes

Haven't they been making these every month since like 2005?

Abbott, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

I'll be impressed only if Applebee's makes themselves worse than Shari's

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

Serious question: in what way was Applebee's formerly distinguishable from Chili's and TGI Friday's? And are the latter two distinguishable from each other? I mean, all are easily distinguishable from Denny's, which is more IHOPPy, and from Bennigan's, which is the same kind of restaurant but has much worse food. OK, I guess Chili's is a little more Southwestern. But seriously, explain to me what the difference between the ideal Applebee's and the ideal TGI Friday's is -- I've eaten plenty at both and have no idea. For bonus points, is the ideal Ruby Tuesday supposed to be a different thing again?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Oh, I had Ruby Tuesday's on vacation and it was really good, normal (no gimmicks) restaurant atmosphere and snooty foodstyles like you urbanites eat! Texas Roadhouse is really good too, they are vegetarian friendly and have a non-obnoxious atmosphere! Chili's has the least menu options and a more fast food atmosphere. Applebee's isn't bad but the plates are enormous.

I judge them by healthy options, like how many vegetables or salads you can get. Some might have a lot of calories but you are getting more vitamins at least.

The Biggest Regret of My Life (u s steel), Saturday, 5 February 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

OK. This thread belongs in the First Reply Hall of Fame.

Aimless, Saturday, 5 February 2011 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Chili's bottomless chips rules all other family restaurant-style places imho.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

i nearly got arrested at an applebees when i was 11.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, November 15, 2004 2:46 PM (6 years ago)

This never got explained! lb, what is the story?

totally small truffles (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 February 2011 02:41 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/08/11/applebees-is-done-trying-to-win-over-millennials/?utm_term=.ff0e7b2c07b8&tid=sm_tw

Now the company is taking items off the menu, including a turkey sandwich with sriracha chile lime sauce and a pork-ham-bacon sandwich. And it is bringing back old favorites, Lenow said, though he declined to say what those were. (“We wouldn’t want to tip off our competitors,” he said.)

Applebee’s is also assessing “whether the brand truly gets credit for hand-cutting steaks in the restaurant and whether we should continue with this approach,” Cywinski said.

j., Saturday, 12 August 2017 08:05 (eight years ago)

Applebee's riblets are good

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 August 2017 14:53 (eight years ago)

does the bar serve single malt scotch

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 August 2017 15:05 (eight years ago)

Imagine the inherent corniness of Applebee's is gonna be significantly more attractive to the millennial market than embarrassing attempts at hipping it up.

circa1916, Saturday, 12 August 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)

a turkey sandwich with sriracha chile lime sauce

i think the turkey might have been the problem here, not the millenial sriracha

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

Applebee's should have called it "millennial sriracha" imo

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 August 2017 18:00 (eight years ago)

why aren't the kids purchasing this turkey sandwich? what, you're telling me they don't like turkey now? you know what, i have had it up to HERE with these millennials

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 August 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

i actually ate at an applebee's a couple weeks ago for the first time in god knows how long. arrived at the knoxville airport, was driving into town and just wanted a square meal since i was going straight on to a party. it was okay, slightly better than i might have remembered actually but mannnn did they make it hard to stay with the plan of ordering something kind of not-gross and semi-healthy. everywhere you turn are seductive combo deals with big glossy pictures of the delicious-looking fried junk. or platters where you pick two sides from a list but only one item on the list is both a vegetable and appealing-sounding so you're back onto the loaded baked potatoes and beer-battered mac-n-cheese fries or whatever. the place did not look to me as if it had been renovated since the 1990s, though there were dumb bar trivia electronic gadgets at the tables so maybe that was part of the "millennial" maneuver. nothing else about the entire experience seemed as if it had been engineered to appeal to my elite east coast metrosexual ivory tower needs. and that's okay.

yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 12 August 2017 18:17 (eight years ago)


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