Bush's Amazing Tax Plan: Hey Middle Class, Bite Me!

And eliminating the deduction for employers that give health insurance? I mean, Christ, not only are they opposed to any government-provided health care (unless they can spin it into a big corporate handout, like the "prescription drug benefit" scam), now they're attacking private-sector health care? It's like they just don't want anyone to have health care at all.

What shameless sons of bitches.

Note that yesterday admininstration representatives were not at all concerned that Putin announced plans to build some sort of innovative atomic weapon.

I think Russia and Italy (and maybe China) represent sort of the Bush-Cheney ideal of corporate statism. (There used to be a word for that...)

Do you mean "oligarchy"?

I'm under the impression that, even when the Democrats do this, there are far too many middle class Americans who can't see beyond "moral values."

I'm voting for him because we need to preserve the sanctity of marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN.

Are you aware that The Man's boot will be on your middle class neck for the next four years?

I said MAN and a WOMAN! Did you not hear me?

Slide 1:
(Clip art of a church)
Church

Slide 2:
(Clip art of a government building)
State

Slide 3:
(Clip art of a church)
Church

Slide 4:
(Clip art of a government building)
State

etc.

Put him in a room and tell him every time he yawns or thinks about having a beer, snorting coke or choking on a pretzel, the presentation is starting over from the beginning.

http://www.governor.wa.gov/bios/mansion.jpg http://www.sealine.com/imgs/f43-flybridge-yacht.jpg

phil 2 is OTM, the rest of y'all are done suckas for having jobs.

So, if I live in a state that has no state tax, and I live in a city with no city taxes, this.. doesn't matter to me?

If so...uh, WOOHOO!

:/ (kidding, of course)

I live in a place with insane local and state taxes, so I'll just be getting fucked sideways if this passes.

Well, people in those places have already been getting fucked, because the state revenue all comes from sales taxes and various kinds of fees, which aren't deductible from federal income tax. So in a sense, this would just be making people in places with state or local income taxes equally fucked. See? It really is a fairer plan!

On the flip, yeah, "Adapt adapt adapt!" That should be Bush's new slogan. "Shit really CAN be a delicious treat if you just get used to it! It's just a lot of carbon and bacteria anyway... it builds character!"

Regarding your first quoting of the above article quote which you enboldened: "considering" does not = "law", keep in mind. Not freakout time.. yet.

That said, this would be an extremely stupid move if it were to actually go through, as it affects just as many so-called "red" states as "blue" states, and within, those who file 1040 via Schedule B. (This shouldn't affect those who just go for the standard deduction on the regular form.) I'm guessing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hhoping this idea will die upon trying to walk up the steps, so to speak.

Oh, and SURPRISE! DEMOCRATS ARE NOT YELLING ABOUT THIS (YET WE'VE SEEN) THEREFORE PROVING TO BE MORE INEFFECTUAL THAN MOST THOUGHT OR PERHAPS DARE I SAY NOT REALLY GIVING A FUCK AFTER ALL SHOCKER.

To be fair, there should only be a blow to the head if Dubya sees two consecutive slides and says something like "Wait... What's the difference?"

I mean this is more about education than punishment here. That's why I'm thinking Powerpoint instead of, say, a paddle.

just because you don't declare your income...

of course if you declared your income then I'd probably have to declare the money you gave me.

I'm going to shut up now.

Oh yeah, no question. And some cities too. But the fact remains that all states have some kind of government revenue, and states without income taxes are making it up in other ways. Like, I moved to New York from Tennessee a few years ago. I pay boatloads of state and city taxes here, none of which I paid there. And it's hard to make a case for New York state having really effective government. But at the same time, I'm more or less happy with my public services (the city's way more efficient than the state), and the state as a whole has a higher standard of living, an apparently more effective education system (at least judged by literacy rates and college attendance rates, compared to Tennessee), tougher environmental standards, etc. -- so at least some of that extra money I'm paying is going somewhere worthwhile. Meanwhile, Tennessee has no income tax, but it has a higher sales tax than New York, and it applies to many more things, including most groceries. The net effect is an extremely regressive tax system that puts a greater proportional burden on the poor and middle class than the wealthy. PLUS, the poor and middle class can't deduct their state taxes from what they pay the feds, because it's not income tax. That's what I mean.

one conservative-centrist-Democrat
vs.
another-conservative-"centrist"-GOP-who-has-fucked-up-GOP-views-but-can't-do-jack-shit-about-'em-given-he'd-have-to-contend-with-a-Democratic-state-house
vs.
Libertarian-woman-who-Perot'ed-previous-candidate-hence-ended-up-helping-Democrat-candidate-more-than-the-Democrats-themselves...

but I digress.)

Goshy darn.

*whistles Ned's tune*

(again, "considering"... "considering"... )

(FYI my experience with TN public services is only as a resident of Nashville, where I grew up and spent a couple years also as an adult. I lived in NYC for just over 4 years. I've now been in Seattle for just over 1 year.)

But wasn't state tax in certain counties in Maryland 15% or some shit like that? That's higher than Canadian sales tax!

This really something the democrats should try to push (along w/other reforms, obv.) because it results in insurance being tied to employment.

We really take it up the ass when we buy big-ticket goods, that's for sure.

:(

... the fuck are you talking about?

Right, but I only want it pushed by people who intend to replace it with something. The Republicans seem to be moving toward universal uncoverage.

Actually, donut christ, that's not the case in Washington with this liberterian candidate. She is on the record as running to steal votes from Gregoire:

Libertarian Bennett, who is drawing about 2 percent of the vote, told The Daily News of Longview she tailored her campaign to draw votes from Gregoire in an attempt to get the major parties to pay more attention to her party's causes.

"That's what I was aiming to do, and that's what it looks like I did," Bennett said. from KATU.com

And get this, her main cause? Gay marriage! Nice work, dumbass. You've sent the message loud and clear. Rossi loves Bush and hates Gays!