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I hate to exercise, I love food but I need to lose about 50 lbs. What should I do that is easy and effortless (The Subway Diet?).

Motorola Joe, Friday, 26 November 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this thread was going to be about bits of Blackgang Chine falling into the sea.

C J (C J), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I heart CJ!

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't drive.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(I thought it would be Dick Van Dyke feeling chubby)

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, yes. Have a base level of exercise you do most days - mine is walking 20 minutes to work and 20 minutes back to Waterloo station, and though in itself I doubt it makes the pounds fall off, it does speed my metabolism and give me a bigger calorie-consuming basis.

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It could be a missing person thread too, just an olde one.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Or the fading of powers to conjure eldritch beings.

Actually, looking up 'wight' on dictionary.com, I just noticed that the 'Isle of Wight' essentially means 'island of man'; it's like Dublin and Blackpool meaning the same thing. Words are great.

xpost vaguely to CJ

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost five kilos (11 lbs) this month. I am on cloud 9.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, there isn't really a quick, easy, effortless way to shed 50 pounds. Sure you can take those pills which speed up your metabolism and suppress your appetite (but which also make you stay up all night manically cleaning your windows because you can't sleep) but ultimately the only sure-fire way to lose weight (and keep it off for ever) is to change your lifestyle, and that sucks if you love food and hate exercise. Eat less, move more; that's what works.

Cut out the snacks in between meals, munch on raw carrots and celery if you get really hungry, reduce the size of the portions you eat for proper meals, drinks lots and lots and lots of water, and cut down the amount of alcohol you drink. Walk everywhere you can, run up the stairs at work instead of taking the lift, get up an hour earlier every morning and do some vigorous exercise (and if you haven't got an exercise bike or a rowing machine, just make up your own step aerobics routine on the bottom few stairs, add loud music if possible to make it less boring). Or join a gym, or go for a swim every night after work. Get your heart rate pumping, and it makes you burns of calories much faster for the whole of that day.

Don't fall for the advertising hype of tablets/faddy diets etc. It's just a waste of your money.

C J (C J), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, find out what Just Kate did.

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sure you can take those pills which speed up your metabolism and suppress your appetite"

----oh man what are they called? Where do you get them?

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost two or three Kgs today, somehow.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

makes you burns of calories??

makes you burn off calories

Gah. Stupid fingers.

C J (C J), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew - those pills are the ones sold by dodgy UK "Diet Clinics", (and which you can buy without prescription over the counter from any chemist shop in Hong Kong). They have a variety of names, but they used to be called Tenuate Dospan - I'm sure googling it would tell you more. Some of my girlfriends got badly hooked on those, so I wouldn't actually recommend them.

C J (C J), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

CJ OTM those pills are just speed, it will drive youi nuts if you do it for too long.
Lifestyle is important, but so is your attitude. i lost around 40-50 pounds and then a further 10 (I went from chubby to dangerously thin in less than 2 months) so it can be done.
Dieting doesn't work, neither does going to the gym (unless you are that way inclined). My suggestion is that you start by seeing food, as just that, food. Nothing more, not a sorce of pleasure, nothiong but sustinance. Get that 'if i dont eat i get dizzy/will starve mentality the fuck out of your head (not that i'm saying you have it, its just that its quite common).
Exercise is important though, not least because what is the point of loosing wait, if you arn't going to luxuriate in your new svelte physicality (something that in itself will help keep the weight off).
The mos important thing is to avoid dieting, it places too much focus on food, and that is what you want to avoid. It also encourages you to celebrate when you loose five pounds (usually with a hunk of cake).
Set yourself more difficult goals such as a well difined cheekbones, veiny ridges on your for arms, a well difined jaw line.
The instructions may seem a little odd, but I lost the weight quickly and it stayed off. remember the diet/gym industrys profit greatly from people loosing weight and putting it back on, so do you really think they have your best interest at hart?

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you have Weightwatchers? Go on that. If it's much like it is in Nz you get GREAT food geared to a dietplan that lets you EAT well and stick to a regulated amount of whatever, you lose loads. It kinda rules.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 November 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh 1 more thing, I found it considerably easyer once i had started making fun of my own chubbyness, it somehow made it all less important

lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought 'wight' was an Old English word for a ghost. It was a question on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, find out what Just Kate did.
-- He's allergic to lettuce (boyincorduro...) (webmail), November 26th, 2004 10:22 PM. (Mark C) (later) (link)

Started going to the gym five times a week, cut out refined sugar, cut down on carbs.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

what did you do at the gym? I'm curious--I try to go three times a week but get easily bored with it and would probably have trouble going 5 times.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

A combination of cardio and weights.

Trust me, I have shitload of weight to lose and I hate exercise, however I'm not staying fat to stick around for side effects such as: Incontinence and Hirsutism. Therefore, the fat has to go.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Being fat makes women grow abnormal body hair? Whoa...

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently. Like I said, I'm not hanging around to find out.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't blame you, and I wouldn't want to be pissing myself either.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, thats for old folk only I reckon.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

And I take it the hirsutism would be post-menopausal, so......doesn't that stuff happen regardless? Or are you saying, "When I'm old and hairy and pissing myself at least I won't be fat."?

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm saying if you're obese at any age, you can suffer from those most embarassing little issues and if you're old, everyone kind of expects it anyway.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, so.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(Btw Lukey/CJ that was kinda what I was so after but my pussy little HEALTHY country won't have those, grr. Besides I don't actually LIKE speed all that much, really. I'll live.)

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 November 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've lost fuck loads of weight and put muscle on going swimming 4 times a week after work and i've started drinking only water, smoothies and fruit juice.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

you lose one level.

is it too late for me to make a D&D joke? (teeny), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too late for me to admit that I got it.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I've lost 8 pounds in the last three weeks (most in the first one and a half) just by being a bit more sensible, but, I've still got another four stone to go - Rowing machine for xmas is going to help this (esp as I can row and watch telly)

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 26 November 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I've lost 3 stone in 4 months just through stopping eating processed foods and lots more fruit and veg.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 26 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this was going to be a thread about ghost exorcision.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 November 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My suggestion is that you start by seeing food, as just that, food. Nothing more, not a sorce of pleasure, nothiong but sustinance.

This concept seems like a depressing and soulless way to live life, although I can see the value for losing weight.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason I thought this was a D&D related question and I was thinking "you lose one level per hit from a Wight, right, and two levels from a Spectre."

I would definitely try walking/jogging each day and maybe cutting out fried foods and cutting down on desserts and a little portion control. You won't lose weight quick, but it'll definite make a difference and you'll slowly get the weight down.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop drinking. If you cut out alcohol/pop ("soda" to non-Minnesotans) you will lose a ton of weight, guaranteed.

Inverse proof of this: for the last three months I have been living at home (w/parents) and--due to the existential crisis that living at home with my parents in a very rural area provokes--I have been drinking quite a bit. For the three months previous to that I was drinking significantly less (ie - two drinks a week vs. 3-4 drinks a night).

Consequence: I've gained nearly 20 lb. Barftastic.

Everyone I know that drinks rarely/never is automatically in better shape than all of my borderline-alcoholic friends.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 26 November 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My suggestion is that you start by seeing food, as just that, food. Nothing more, not a sorce of pleasure, nothiong but sustinance.

This is so so wrong. Most people that are overweight don't see food as a source of pleasure--it's a habit. A thing to do. Like smoking. Treating food like Energy Pills is a huge part of the problem.

The reason we all eat garbage food is because it's easy and convenient and requires little to no forethought or preparation. When I eat a bag of Cheetos I don't sit back and munch each log(?) slowly and deliberately; I shovel them into my mouth until I can't stand it anymore. Ditto for fast food, ditto for baby effin' carrots.

However, when I decide to take the time to make myself a meal from ACTUAL INGREDIENTS (you know, like vegetables and good meat and stuff), the process becomes ritualized and more deliberate. I enjoy the food much more and--usually--it's healthier stuff.

Basically: learn to cook. You'll eat tasty food that's better for you. The only sacrifice is time.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 26 November 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Crystal Meth.

Fishbeck (sexyDancer), Friday, 26 November 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason I thought this was a D&D related question and I was thinking "you lose one level per hit from a Wight, right, and two levels from a Spectre."

Haha.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 November 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

giboyeux OTFM

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 26 November 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I eat mashed potatoes/gravy and an egg salad sandwich 5 days a week for lunch...dinner usually consists of meat and bread with gatorade. I weigh 142lbs.

Spinktor, Friday, 26 November 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

how old are you?

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 26 November 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Dont shoot holes in my fool-proof diet scheme.

A: 22 1/2

Spinktor, Friday, 26 November 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Most people that are overweight don't see food as a source of pleasure--it's a habit. A thing to do. Like smoking. Treating food like Energy Pills is a huge part of the problem.

Yeah, people assume overweight people sit on the couch and eat junk food 24/7. For me, I grew up in a family where you didn't get any dessert if you didn't finish everything on your plate (and these were massive platefuls of food). The whole food-as-a-reward-system thing is so firmly ingrained now, that I find it difficult to stop even when I'm full.

Strangely enough, nobody else in my family is fat. Damn it all.

Just Kate (papa november), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Important to distinguish "comfort" from "pleasure." It might not be accurate to say that hamburger steak with gravy and onions (to choose my example) or that Klondike Bar (to choose my wife's) was a source of pleasure, but it was damn sure a source of comfort when the external stresses were getting out of hand.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 26 November 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Revive. Thinking getting rid of belly. Gym not been attended for months, Ireland not a country with swimming pools you'd want to be near (Too small and everyone swims so slowly!). Anyone tried weightwatchers? Is it all hippy huggy crap or can you do it on your own?

Also what is non fatty snack food that I can graze on. Can't do fruit too much due to messed up stomach lining.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:31 (twenty years ago)

There should be an 'of' in there somewhere. Can you guess where?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

come back, toffeesock

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

break it off and tow it to join the other Channel Islands! Give it to the French!

Beauty and the Beastliness (kate), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

MY BELLY?! It's not that much of a problem yet. I'd be more worried about Japanese whalers hiding and waiting for me to go swimming in the sea or something.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)

I hear the Scandinavians are quite keen on whaling, as well, so you might do well to avoid them!

Beauty and the Beastliness (kate), Thursday, 12 January 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Viking raiders, japanese whalers and psychotic sea captains? I'm never going near the sea again.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 12 January 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Celery, carrots, broccoli - these are all good munchies.

I think that, in response to all that was said above, its about moderation. The 5% body fat freaks (no negative connotations - really) b/c they OBSESS about every piece of food that enters their body and about their exercise routines/programs. Without this level of obsession, you'll find results like 5% body fat impossible to achieve.

If you realize what it takes to make you satisfied, but not full, you'll be that much further along. Its GOOD to feel hunger before meals - that's your body telling you "Hey! Let's eat something!" But don't go TOO long without or eat TOO much. you want to get as level an intake curve as possible.

Personally, I tend to eat carbs in the morning to give my metabolism a kick, and then more protein as the day goes on so I don't get the dreaded food coma.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

lol @ title

so i have lost all of the extra pounds put on over the last 5 years or so. must be somewhere in the 25 lb range. waist is back to beanpole levels, my chin is totally defined again and not receding under middle-age bloat. first 2 weeks of diet consisted of pretty hardcore low-carb approach, last 3 weeks were built on anxiety/stress/depression : /
starting to resume semi-normal eating habits, last couple of days i could actually taste food instead of going through some completely joyless mechanical process. been avoiding the NN thread because obv. not eating healthy (or eating much at all) but i intend to follow as much of that diet as possible once i get out of my funk.
i am glad to get my old physical self back but the way i did it is not recommended

velko, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:28 (sixteen years ago)

:(

tehresa, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

xp - going through the same thing - at this rate, next week i'll need a new belt.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

Thought thread would be about lost Jimi Hendrix tapes, either resurfacing or being lost forever.

Bloggers Might Ride (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

my mistake was swapping all those carbs for white wine

indie spare (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

bagel for breakfast, soup for lunch, salad for dinner

oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

i can't even imagine

k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:47 (sixteen years ago)

unrecommended wight loss diet: 2 packs of cigarettes, 2 cups of tea, four slices of whole grain whole wheat toast w/butter

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 04:48 (sixteen years ago)

Woha.

I would have said: have two kids, cause that makes you forget about food. It did for a while but I gained back about 6 kilos. ARGH. Can't seem to shake it off. :-( I think mainly because I've been feeling exhausted (sinus, sleep deprived,...) and hence eat crap. :-( No excuse I know;, but life's a bit hectic atm.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

sorry, velko :(

harbl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)


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