What is the moral lesson contained in the words to ‘Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer’? Do you agree with it?

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What is the moral lesson contained in the words to ‘Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer’? Do you agree with it?

Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You would even say it glows
All of the other reindeer
Used to laugh and call him names
They wouldn't let poor Rudolph
Join in any reindeer games

Then one foggy Christmas eve
Santa called to say.
"Rudolph with your nose so bright
Won't you lead my sleigh tonight?"

Then how the reindeer loved him
As they danced and sang with glee,
"Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer
You'll go down in his-to-ree!!"

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:06 (twenty years ago)

don't pick yer nose, or you'll get a bloody red schnozz.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago)

it's a thinly-veiled attack on affirmative action and it is reprehensible

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago)

that the premise of that extreme makeover/nosejob show is mega-shallow?

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago)

Its about nepotism innit. Santa woz rooting Rudolf.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:17 (twenty years ago)

the lesson is that if you are neither popular nor have a useful skill you should kill yourself now.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago)

The lesson is that it's the worst song of all time.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:22 (twenty years ago)

i just realized that this the movie "reindeer games" took its title from this song. what a depressing realization.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago)

the lesson is that if you are neither popular nor have a useful skill you should kill yourself now.

or move to australia and herd wallabies!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Oi, watch it cobber.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago)

I thought you called him cobbler then. I was trying to picture Tad with a baked pastry on his head.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago)

WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR ABUSE
TRY TO STOP US
IT'S NO USE
RISE ABOVE
RISE ABOVE
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago)

haha daddino otm!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:34 (twenty years ago)

HI CINNIBLOUNT!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago)

i got a fever, a swollen jaw, and the dolphins in a three team teaser tonight - WOOHOO ILX!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago)

TEE OH'S OUT TILL THE SUPER BOWL!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:48 (twenty years ago)

(seriously, this year's falcons team reminds me so much of the buddy ryan/randall cunningham-era eagles that it isn't funny. which prob. means that, like those teams, this falcons team ain't going to the super bowl.)

back to the thread topic ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago)

it means that no one wants a Charley-in-a-Box, or a squirtgun that shoots jelly...

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago)

it means some old guy is pulling the strings on what is cool.

bulbs (bulbs), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:05 (twenty years ago)

we're like the island of misfit toys
-- jess (wt...), September 11th, 2004.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago)

SATAN SATAN SATAN!

Oh wait, no.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago)

i think that the doll on the island of misfit toys was there b/c she was psycho. she later went on to become chuckie's mom, or something.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/rudolph.asp

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:22 (twenty years ago)

the moral: the shinier yer nose, the more likely the ground to disappear from under yer feet. (AKA ya nevah can separate yer nose from yer bottom syndrome)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 09:26 (twenty years ago)

I think there should be a final verse where Rudolph says "oh so *now* you all like me now that I'm successful, but you never even gave me the time of day when I was just a red-nosed reindeer. Well you can all just FUCK OFF" (or words to that effect).

rener (rener), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:11 (twenty years ago)

and then she and santa should shoot all the other reindeers.

bulbs (bulbs), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:18 (twenty years ago)

i worked in a deli with a guy named maverick (real name: maverick), an utter psychopath who'd been kicked out of college for stabbing a dude with a screwdriver. he was like the "none of you faggots touch me" guy in Stripes, only a little taller.

he had a fake beef with another kid, Erik, who worked there, and a real beef with Kathy, a middleaged woman who did our baking (maverick did a little of the baking too and always fucked it up, cookies come out totally flat or ashy or soggy). part of the fake beef one week was Erik putting up a picture of a kid with down's syndrome smiling on the staff bulletin board and writing on it MAVERICK BAKES HIS 1ST BATCH OF COOKIES!! This stayed up for about a day before Kathy took it down in disgust.

maverick came in later to pick up his check, saw that his tribute had been pulled, and announced to the entire kitchen (incl kathy and several others):

"I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW, THAT RETARDS ARE STUPID AND DESERVE TO BE MADE FUN OF."

(which is what this thread reminded me of)

(maverick left the deli to move to LA and be a movie star. he told me once he'd "figured out how john wayne did it." i learned later that he had come back to mpls several months later, and having nowhere to go, had walked from the greyhound station [this is like january] in st paul to a suburb about 25 miles away to bang on the door of a girl he stalked in college. only neither she nor her family lived there anymore. the current residents called the cops, who picked him up in the neighborhood posthaste; all he had was the blanket he'd wrapped himself with, and a hatchet.)

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:37 (twenty years ago)

merry christmas, everybody

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago)

What are these "reindeer games" that Rudolph wasn't allowed to join in? Chess, perhaps? Darts? Twister?

C J (C J), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Mostly drinking games I think and the real reason he wasn't allowed to play with them is that he would very quickly get legless and try cop a feel with Mrs. Santa. BTW, I would love a squirtgun that shoots jelly.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Its about nepotism innit. Santa woz rooting Rudolf.

I don't know if this was meant to sound like Ali G, but that's how I'm hearing it in my head (and it is making me giggle).

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago)

In Tom Perrotta's Bad Haircut there is a very funny bit where some teens discuss what they would have told Santa if they had been Rudolph.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

i think that the doll on the island of misfit toys was there b/c she was psycho. she later went on to become chuckie's mom, or something.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, December 20, 2004 11:08 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

i'm inexplicably proud of this post.

ON THE PHONE WITH THIS FAT CHICK… WHERER MY IHOP (Eisbaer), Friday, 18 December 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

agreed

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Saturday, 19 December 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago)

I'm drunk enough to attempt a serious answer: AFAICT the lesson is that if you are different in any way, you may well find that you are a target of ostracism and rejection from your peers. However, you do not need to listen to them. The characteristic that distinguishes you might actually be a unique talent or skill that turns out to be of value. Once your peers observe that an authority figure recognizes this, they may well completely change their attitude. Yes, people often are that dumb and shallow. This is why you should not feel that you always need to listen to them.

Yes, I agree with this.

Sundar, Sunday, 20 December 2009 06:59 (fifteen years ago)

It's never specified whether Rudolph becomes a full time part of the team or just a role player who comes in for certain situations. They need him when Christmas Eve is foggy, but what if the night is clear with high visibility?

Maltodextrin, Sunday, 20 December 2009 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

Either way, all the reindeer love him and his name goes down in history! I mean, we're still singing about him. So much the better for him if he only needs to work on rare occasions.

Sundar, Sunday, 20 December 2009 09:00 (fifteen years ago)

if rudolph was on ilx what would go down in his-to-ree is that all of the other reindeer would have sb'ed him so on that foggy christmas eve when santa called he wouldn't know about poor rudolph stuck in sberia arguing with deeznuts about that video of the dog and the train. the moral lesson is that we are no better than all of the other reindeer.

estela, Sunday, 20 December 2009 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

The moral seems very utilitarian, which is a little difficult to get behind. If Santa's opinion holds so much sway in reindeer circles then he should probably have asked them to be nicer to Rudolph during his awkward adolescent phase. I can't help but feel that the whole thing is an elaborate penis metaphor.

stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

What I'm hearing is that reindeer can have ugly duckling syndrome. We need one more species and we've got something akin to moral turducken.

moley, Monday, 21 December 2009 04:44 (fifteen years ago)

Gives a whole new meaning to "Guide my sleigh tonight"

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 December 2009 04:44 (fifteen years ago)

(xpost)

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 December 2009 04:44 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4V4O9PFOGk&feature=player_embedded

Mark G, Monday, 21 December 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

eight years pass...

I think there should be a final verse where Rudolph says "oh so *now* you all like me now that I'm successful, but you never even gave me the time of day when I was just a red-nosed reindeer. Well you can all just FUCK OFF" (or words to that effect).
― rener (rener), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:11 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like that last verse in friend in low places Garth sings live

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:07 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Wham!'s Last Christmas (on repeat) : Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
Dark Side of the Moon : The Wizard of Oz

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Saturday, 26 December 2020 01:01 (four years ago)

They used to laugh at him. And call him names. So he killed them. He killed them all. pic.twitter.com/uxx6b2sE4e

— Phaedra (@PhaedraXTeddy) December 4, 2020

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Saturday, 26 December 2020 01:21 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-SVPJM4L4

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 December 2020 02:37 (four years ago)


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