Can we discuss the stolen fetus/mama murder from last week?

Do these stats apply worldwide or just in the States?

wouldn't homicide be common as cause of death for most young women?

i just found info in the u.s. so i don't know about elsewhere.

and about her claiming to be pregnant/have given birth---is her husband a total dolt? he has to be in on it, else he is the mental equivalent of an apple.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/19/missouri.fetus/index.html

Who is the evil person who decided to put that picture with that headline???

if this is such a pervasive problem, why is this case singled out for such overwhelming media attention? other than the fact that it will be used by the right wing to try to overturn abortion rights?

it is a sensational story, that is why the media attention is so great. lots of wierd details. and i think your assertion that it will be used by the right wing to try and overturn abortion rights is a bit paranoid.

as far as the data i found goes, i am not about to relocate all of the individual state data! but if you are interested, just google search each state you want to look at. search through vital statistics by age and sex, then search for homicide stats and victim info.

Nor do they necessarily indicate that pregnant women are at a greater risk of death by homicide than non-pregnant women. The release says that in one year, using national statistics, homicide was the second-leading cause of death among all young women, pregnant or not, and that accidents were the leading cause of death among both pregnant and non-pregnant women. Moreover, the The release does point to three state/local studies that showed homicide as the leading cause of death among pregnant women, (only) one of which also showed homicide as just the 5th-leading cause among non-pregnant women. All three studies focused upon urban communities – Cook County, Illinois, New York, and the State of Maryland (about 40% Baltimore, plus semi-urban sprawl through the DC suburbs). The Post article mentions additional studies showing the same in Massachusetts (population heavily dominated by Boston/Worcester) and Georgia (an exception, perhaps, but Atlanta metro is about 40% of the population and contains a big inner city). Urban communities are home to more single mothers. Would the statistics be the same if you studied cause of death in suburban and rural areas?

Note also that the big media stories here involve white people.

i think your assertion that it will be used by the right wing to try and overturn abortion rights is a bit paranoid.

"overturn abortion rights" was misleading. the anti-Roe forces are seeking incremental change in part through litigation involving just this kind of case.

I should have added "or is sought to be denied"

omg

I thought the anti-Roe brigade just cared about cases where a pregnant woman's fetus is killed, seeking to change laws so that those responsible can be charged with murder. I doubt they will give a damn about a case where the baby survives but the mother dies. They are not concerned with the life of the mother.

i would make an alien joke but....that'd be in rather poor taste.

Interesting

The premature infant, named Victoria, is reported to be healthy and has since been re-united with her father. ® Is "father" a registered trademark now?

i think they mean that by being caught with the baby in her house, she is legally screwed. she can't claim to be falsely accused, etc.

An article about this in the Age had a comment from the alleged kidnappers husband that has me boggled:

Yesterday, Montgomery's husband, Kevin Montgomery, said he believed that the baby his wife presented to him was theirs.

According to federal authorities, Kevin Montgomery picked up his wife in Topeka on Thursday and drove her and the new baby, whom they called Abigail, about 65km south to Melvern, where the couple showed her off.

After Lisa Montgomery made her first appearance in federal court yesterday, Kevin Montgomery said, "I had no idea," when asked by reporters what he had known about his wife's alleged actions.

HOW CAN YOU HAVE NO IDEA YOUR WIFE WAS NOT ACTUALLY PREGNANT. What did she do, explain it away somehow? Stuff pillows down her top and refuse to be touched? Is the man retarded? Weird, this whole thing is so damn weird.

"WOMB RAIDER: CAUGHT RED HANDED"