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― g@bbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Is this silliness or is this about what I think it's about?

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Not that I've been following that for the last week.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

it's probably what you think it's about. not that I know anything, of course.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

out with it

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

perhaps you two feel like telling the whole class the contents of your discussion!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Odd name for a Bond film.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

this isn't the tucker carlson thing, is it?

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

no it's probably the gonzalez thing.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

it's this

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

That's what I thought.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

not that it will affect the result, but it should be a good media/image-making play and draw attention to the larger issue

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

oh, okay, it's that thing.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

x-post

There has been so little coverage of this though, which means that there's not going to be a big show of public support if the objections are steam-rollered.

I am thoroughly disgusted with Kerry for conceding so quickly, and for not leading the challenge.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'm imagining too much, but I see strategic advantages in the absence of both prior coverage and Kerry. Both contribute to the surprise factor. Kerry shouldn't be leading the challenge. This is about principle, not power or personality. And we've already learned that he's not a good face.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

because Americans are racists and don't like Czechs

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

I can only hope the Dems rise in unison as a coming-out of the new leadership, but that's probably several steps too far.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

I think intellectual differences are compatible with unity of message, but I haven't seen anything that might suggest the basis for that unity. There was an interview in the LA Times Calendar section with George Lakoff about his new book, which I haven't read but which I suspect makes arguments similar to those in that essay by Agre on conservatism. I don't think it's useful to think in terms of language vs. substance: language just sets priorities and focuses attention. But I don't really know what the balance is between insider control vs. network effects in the political process.

― youn, Thursday, 6 January 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Is there anything to this? I got overwhelmed/disgusted with the coverage of this issue at teh Kos and stopped just short of petty namecalling..

Do you think there really were significant and large scale problems in Ohio that merit this kind of action? And how big of a deal is this - on par with how the GOP went after Clinton, or a total bombshell?

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

I hope Kerry won't have to use his A.K.

― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh, but think of the PWND pic of Cheney & Frist..

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Cheney and Frist will hopefully, instead of being PWND, be...

http://www.mackron.com/random/peteburnzd.jpg

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 6 January 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

ooh, they did it.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&u=/ap/20050106/ap_on_go_co/electoral_vote&printer=1

oh it's ON now

lord knows where this is gunna go and how much shit will be flung from either side, but here we gooooooooo

― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050106/i/r1515188930.jpg

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) (C) and United States Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones (news, bio, voting record) (D-OH) (R) discuss their filing of a formal objection to the certification of President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s general election presidential votes from the State of Ohio shortly before they were to have been certified during a joint session of Congress at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, January 6, 2005. The objection entered by Tubbs Jones and Boxer forced the Senate and House to delay the certification of Bush's election win and retire to their separate chambers to debate the alleged irregularities cited in the objection. REUTERS/Mannie Garcia

― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 6 January 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Hrm my understanding is that it won't go anywhere because both houses just need a simple majority to defeat it. I think the only point is to get a 2-hour debate on it, make a point, move on. Or am I missing something?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's done.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/index.html

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Kind of stupid. They should have had the guts to do it in 2000. Now, with zero chance of winning or even making a good case that Kerry was robbed, it's just more bad PR for the Democrats. "Sore losers!" etc..

I don't think I understand anything the Democrats do these days.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

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